StrikeNinja24
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It's just weird, I've been struggling for another green to replace Camilia in certain teams, now I got three green 5* in the past two pulls.
Ill take it though.
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Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|Natural Selection Simulator
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It's just weird, I've been struggling for another green to replace Camilia in certain teams, now I got three green 5* in the past two pulls.
Ill take it though.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I want a green dragon. Not too familiar with the series so maybe there isn't anyone except Fae, but they have weapon swapped a couple of characters already.
There's Fae. She's not that great.
CuthbertAllgoodz
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That mostly my problem, I want Cherche for favoritism and getting Frederick would make her less relevant. Well, they could be part of my Flyer and Cavalry team. Um...
Hours Left
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Reposition is another good assist alternative, and I think keeping his natural Luna special is a solid choice.
If he's +DEF you can also double down on that with a QR build.
Ah, okay. They're my favourite male and female characters from Awakening, so it's cool to me that they're so directly comparable here.
Did you try for her during the gauntlet banner with no luck then?
CuthbertAllgoodz
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Yea... Got Minerva with bad IV. I have a 5* Camilla waiting for Cherche since I got a better Camilla pulling greens for a 3* Cherche when Nino was featured. In fact I pulled as many 5* Camilla as I did 3* Cherche since the game came out. :/
CuthbertAllgoodz
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They are gone. Might come back next Easter along new characters, who knows!
GoldCrusader
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When desperation kicks in...does it gives you 4 consecutive attacks?
SenorArdilla
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I'm not sure if Horse Emblem isn't working or not. I swapped Peri to the leader position instead of Ursula and now I'm getting defense wins.
Yep, if you have high enough speed. Automatically activates Moonbow too.
GoldCrusader
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Damnnnn
CountAntonius
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Turns out I have a +SPD minus Defense setsuna. Maybe better than my -atk takumi?
Falchion
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Damn, that sucks. Would've loved to have gotten the Lucina.
Thats the wrong special trigger. Luna is unilaterally better than Moonbow for Quadsuna.
It is? Back to the old grind.
On a regular double from BB+, Luna and Moonbow will both trigger on the second engage and on the first round of hits (before a counter).
On a double-double, both Luna and Moonbow will both trigger on the second round.
Luna is simply better.
Yeah luna'll proc and help kill people WAY more that moonbow, even double moonbow. We just got a free catria tho
Ghost is Bad
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yolo pulled a 5star +atk -hp nowi.
If she's Brave, then just go with Luna.
Wouldn't Noontime also work since it heals her 30% damage and she does stupid amounts of damage to make it worthwhile?
It would keep her in wary fighter range true...
Sushen
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So, even if you feed +2 unit to another unit, you get +3? Or, you have to merge to +2 unit if you want to maintain the stats counts?
Merging a +x unit with +y unit of the same rarity gives you a x + y + 1 unit. x and y can be any number, even zero.
Sushen
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With Nowi who has the weapon that guarantees the counter, vantage synergize better or vantage is kinda wasted? As a dragon, which type is her strength and weakness beyond Falchion users? I'm preparing her for potential arena mission, although she's spd-.
Hopefully atk+ helps her still competitive.
Hopefully atk+ helps her still competitive.
Julia is the hardest of hard counters to Nowi. Nino will give her a bad time as well, and you obviously don't want to go against Hector with full HP.
It's true that Vantage is generally good for 1-2 ranger. However, in Nowi's case, I get the feeling that her Atk (even at +Atk, which is respectable at 48, and of magic nature) isn't high enough for Vantage to make a huge impact. You need OHKO for Vantage to matter (unless you are talking about defense team, which I honestly don't think F2Ps or small-spenders should care too much), and 48 blue magic attack certainly isn't going to kill any blue or green. Even on red, you will need TA3 to put you over the threshold to reliably OHKO most of the popular reds if you don't have your special fully charged. And if you have TA3, reds (bar Falchions) already do little to no damage to you anyway so you might as well take their 0 damage hits to charge up your special.
So, my verdict is that Vantage isn't too great for Nowi; it might work well if along the way of getting her health down to Vantage range you get her special charged up as well, but I personally wouldn't want to rely on that. QR, (or maybe blue breakers) is the way to go for Nowi. Regarding your Nowi's IV, -Spd is unfortunately pretty damning for her. You will need some serious Spd buffing to avoid getting doubled in many cases.
toastyToast
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Yeesh. Ran into one of those once. If I didn't have Robin she would have dropped my entire team like flies
I opened up a +spd/-res 3* Setsuna the other day. Maybe I'll be done with build the next time the bunny event rolls around lol
Sushen
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Thanks. I'm going to put fury to make up lack of atk and spd. Lack of speed is general theme of my team where Lucina is only fast units I have...
Ghost is Bad
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If you have Quick Riposte, you won't need to take Fury since you'll autodouble and OHKO almost any blue/red that you run into. It'd be better to run TA to better deal with Swords.
Well, here I am. Project Olivia is well underway.
I'm pretty much broke after promoting her and when I gather the next 20k feathers I will be prompting a Palla (which I reserved specifically for Olivia) for her Ruby Sword+, along with WoM3 and Moonbow. That's 3 crucial skills in one single sacrifice, you can't get any more economical than that. lol
I would very much like Fury 3 but I don't have any more Hinatas and I'm already spending 40k feathers for Olivia; I seriously don't want to spend another 20k just for one unit. If a Hinata comes along I will gladly sacrifice him but if not, I'm going to settle for Fury 2 and be done with it.
I'm pretty much broke after promoting her and when I gather the next 20k feathers I will be prompting a Palla (which I reserved specifically for Olivia) for her Ruby Sword+, along with WoM3 and Moonbow. That's 3 crucial skills in one single sacrifice, you can't get any more economical than that. lol
I would very much like Fury 3 but I don't have any more Hinatas and I'm already spending 40k feathers for Olivia; I seriously don't want to spend another 20k just for one unit. If a Hinata comes along I will gladly sacrifice him but if not, I'm going to settle for Fury 2 and be done with it.
Ghost is Bad
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I don't think Wings of Mercy is the right warp skill for dancers. Escape Route is better since you can then dance to everyone rather than just the units that are below 50% hp.
So I had used up my three swords for the day, and I had a 5/7 streak going. I was tempted to use a dueling sword, but every other time this week I've used a sword so I could finish a streak off, I've met with disaster.
"What the hell," I decide, and burn the sword anyway. And I'm matched up against a team with Camilla and THREE VANTAGE TAKUMIS. FUCK.
It was the stage with the breakable wall checkerboard pattern, and my team was Nino, Azura, Eirika, and Sharena. I was able to take out one Takumi, but I had no way of taking the other three out in one turn. So I managed to cram my 4 units into the four last spaces in both corners outside of threat range. Next turn, Eirika doubled and killed one Takumi... and then her drag back activated and she moved into the space I needed to put Nino in so she could take both remaining units out that turn. FUCK! But thankfully, Eirika still had enough HP left to take out Camilla after Azura sung, and I was able to take out the third Takumi with Nino.
Eat shit, you prissy bastards!
I ended up with a 4772 score.
"What the hell," I decide, and burn the sword anyway. And I'm matched up against a team with Camilla and THREE VANTAGE TAKUMIS. FUCK.
It was the stage with the breakable wall checkerboard pattern, and my team was Nino, Azura, Eirika, and Sharena. I was able to take out one Takumi, but I had no way of taking the other three out in one turn. So I managed to cram my 4 units into the four last spaces in both corners outside of threat range. Next turn, Eirika doubled and killed one Takumi... and then her drag back activated and she moved into the space I needed to put Nino in so she could take both remaining units out that turn. FUCK! But thankfully, Eirika still had enough HP left to take out Camilla after Azura sung, and I was able to take out the third Takumi with Nino.
Eat shit, you prissy bastards!
I ended up with a 4772 score.
What's the likelihood that when the dancer is attacked, they won't be the last character on the field? In order for dancers to use escape route means they're taking damage, which they shouldn't be doing in the first place.
Ghost is Bad
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Dancers can tank at least 1 hit from most characters that don't have WTA. It's still mostly preference though, since I sometimes have to bait with my dancer lol.
Sushen
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QR is counter attack not double, right? Also I feel maintainingredients 80%+ is tougher than going below 80%, especially with fury.
Haha, that's the exact setup that I have, except with Azura, my ace unit.
I think Wings of Mercy works well if you are fielding Fury users.
Ghost is Bad
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yeah, but Nowi's pretty much the best bait unit in the game. You only need to have QR go off once to make games infinitely easier. Only a few characters can kill Nowi even with neutral IVs.
fair enough.
Sushen
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I see. That's why peoples are critical of the low speed as she'll start out getting hit and you don't want to be doubled.
Baiting isn't what I'm used to, but I'm curious to try it.
That lucky pull saved you 40k feathers, equivalent to 80 weeks of hard work to move up one arena ranking bracket. Remember that, lucky bastards. >_<
Ehh a lot of us don't use dancer comps.
Ghost is Bad
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Reprisal pretty much never matches up to Moonbow unless you're at like 1HP and even then it's pretty close. It's about as bad as Glimmer is.
Alright, makes sense
Xist2inspire
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Looks like I'll end up sacrificing a pulled 5* unit for the first time...ended up pulling a Reinhardt during a Nowi hunt, but I already have a +ATK 4* Reinhardt. Still haven't decided what to do with my spare Bunny Chrom either.
I have a number of 5*s I wanna sac for skills but I'm still a little worried I might need them again later lol.
What's her nature?
There once was a prophet from Nabata. She was slow and deemed useless by many. Everyone knew her, none would consult her. So she waited in isolation, ranked among the lowest of warriors while mages and archers and ninjas were hailed as the greatest heroes of our time.
But she grew strong.
And she learned how to get along!
(Not pictured, Julia, Nino. Results will be the same.)
Archers got you down? Kagero wrecking your team? Green mages make you sad? Why not try Sophia? The slowest mage in the game, and the perfect counter to the current green and bow heavy metagame.
Yes, I did just take the "worst" mage in the game and made her into an anti-meta counter. And she excels at that job. Now you might ask why not Lilina or Henry, even? Lilina can't do this. She would get destroyed by Kagero, TA or not. And Henry, despite getting Raurraven+, does less damage than Sophia. Only Sophia sits in this exact middleground where she both ignores archers and axes AND can hit back hard enough to kill the ranged enemies. After a bit of skill inheritance shenanigans, of course. She needs that Raurraven tome. And Triangle Adept 3. And Quick Reposte, but we just got a free Subaki, so that one is easy to get. We also got a free Palla for Moonbow. Triangle Adept might be harder to get, I had a four star Roy. That'll teach him to troll with a movie for a four star pull.
Getting a perfect run with her on the team was easy. Nothing green or colorless can seriously hurt her. Kagero up there is one of the bad ones. A fully buffed Gronnblade+ user can hurt her, too, but those are rare. And easy to split off when the AI runs her. In most cases, Sophia will just take a hit and destroy Nino (Or Cecilia if that's who you're bladin' with.) Of course, a fair warning needs to be given. While she is functionally immune to all green and colorless foes, she really REALLY should not tangle with anything blue. At all. Reinhardt will wreck her. Linde and Robin, too. Blue melee is bad for her as well. Which is why she's teaming up with Nino. They kill each others' counters.
Oh, and if taking Sophia to five stars might be a bit steep for you, it's okay. She still counters Kagero at four stars with this build. She will lose out in some Red vs. Red fights she'd otherwise win, but four stars and Triangle Adept 2 is actually enough for a stopgap solution to archers and ninjas. I just went further with the idea instead.
But she grew strong.
And she learned how to get along!
(Not pictured, Julia, Nino. Results will be the same.)
Archers got you down? Kagero wrecking your team? Green mages make you sad? Why not try Sophia? The slowest mage in the game, and the perfect counter to the current green and bow heavy metagame.
Yes, I did just take the "worst" mage in the game and made her into an anti-meta counter. And she excels at that job. Now you might ask why not Lilina or Henry, even? Lilina can't do this. She would get destroyed by Kagero, TA or not. And Henry, despite getting Raurraven+, does less damage than Sophia. Only Sophia sits in this exact middleground where she both ignores archers and axes AND can hit back hard enough to kill the ranged enemies. After a bit of skill inheritance shenanigans, of course. She needs that Raurraven tome. And Triangle Adept 3. And Quick Reposte, but we just got a free Subaki, so that one is easy to get. We also got a free Palla for Moonbow. Triangle Adept might be harder to get, I had a four star Roy. That'll teach him to troll with a movie for a four star pull.
Getting a perfect run with her on the team was easy. Nothing green or colorless can seriously hurt her. Kagero up there is one of the bad ones. A fully buffed Gronnblade+ user can hurt her, too, but those are rare. And easy to split off when the AI runs her. In most cases, Sophia will just take a hit and destroy Nino (Or Cecilia if that's who you're bladin' with.) Of course, a fair warning needs to be given. While she is functionally immune to all green and colorless foes, she really REALLY should not tangle with anything blue. At all. Reinhardt will wreck her. Linde and Robin, too. Blue melee is bad for her as well. Which is why she's teaming up with Nino. They kill each others' counters.
Oh, and if taking Sophia to five stars might be a bit steep for you, it's okay. She still counters Kagero at four stars with this build. She will lose out in some Red vs. Red fights she'd otherwise win, but four stars and Triangle Adept 2 is actually enough for a stopgap solution to archers and ninjas. I just went further with the idea instead.
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