BlueLiquid
Member
I fed my 5* Raven to Cherche for Brave Axe+. No regrets.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Fire Emblem Heroes |OT|Natural Selection Simulator
- Thread starter Shun
- Start date
- Status
I fed my 5* Raven to Cherche for Brave Axe+. No regrets.
StrikeNinja24
Banned
I already have Camilia. What's so special about Cherche?
Sushen
Member
I'm leveling up 5* Raven with atk- for the heck of it. Actually, he seems not to bad, although he's no Hector.
We don't know for sure but base stat totals definitely matter a lot less. You can safely use Kagero and still get a 4.750+ score. Main factors are level, rarities, then equipped skills and raw stats.
Nowi is a magic damage dealing offensively oriented tank that comes with a built-in distant counter, and she is in the best color to deal with the most common weapon designed to kill dragons. The advent of green mages hampers her usefulness, but with Quick Riposte you can almost always use her to tank at least one hit from anything not named Julia or Nino and deal heavy damage in return.
What shame? You carry her in your team like a badge of honor!
Raven is perceived poorly because he comes with one of the worst weapons for his stats - the Brave Axe. If you take it off he actually has 35 speed and a really nice offensive spread beyond that. Unfortunately he has to compete with other common axe users like Cherche, Minerva and Hector.
Cherche has 8 (!) more Atk than Camilla, so she is a fantastic candidate for builds involving Brave Axe and Drag Back. In a pinch she possesses solid physical bulk as well. However she requires a lot of investment to be useful, significantly more than Minerva.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Well this makes my Nowi conundrum even more of one. Had 5 orbs and decided to pull a single blue orb and got a 4* +res/-atk. Now this merged with my other Nowi and getting the Fortify dragon buff could take on some mages and win handily. -Atk I think is easier to overcome with sacred seal and SI than -res. -res makes her a liability to blue mages.
-Res is actually her most recommended bane.
dreamlongdead
Member
I want a Nowi with either +SPD/-HP or +SPD/-RES. I would easily get her to 5* and feed her my current Nowi.
The +SPD would allow her to do her job so much better.
The +SPD would allow her to do her job so much better.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
-HP is her best bane now with the sacred seals.
I think I am going to go with the +res/-atk. Running it through a dmg calculator with res 3 + sword breaker and with buffs she will survive and kill a lot more ranged units and the -Atk barely affects her. Even with no buffs she would kill a +10 +Atk/neutral res Ryoma or Lucina with fury 3. Insane. She also survives a +Atk with fury 3 Nino with a Fortify dragon buff. Could put reciprocal Aid on my Eirika who runs Renewal 3 and keep Nowi up and running.
Now if only I had some feathers.....
It might seem like that, but my +speed nowi is struggling hard, granted she gives up Def for it but i kinda wish i had her neutral honestly
I don't need my arena swords anymore because I did the math and my current run is already unlikely to pass my 4810 even if I get a few 688 rounds. So I tried unequipping skills from my team, which is running heavy SI (every slot filled with max rank stuff).
Removing all skills but weapons dropped my score from a typical 686-688 to 670. Putting back on most of their default skills raised it to around 678. So it seems to simply count how many skills you have equipped. Nothing fancy like total SP spent. I suppose if I got tired of facing super merged teams I could unequip some skills and run vanilla, good to know.
Removing all skills but weapons dropped my score from a typical 686-688 to 670. Putting back on most of their default skills raised it to around 678. So it seems to simply count how many skills you have equipped. Nothing fancy like total SP spent. I suppose if I got tired of facing super merged teams I could unequip some skills and run vanilla, good to know.
Do support abilities count towards it? Cause three of my dudes still don't have one. I just have better things to learn.
I ran outta swords but I'd imagine yes.
They're cheap for SP and you can get them from 3* units so I make sure everyone has an assist. I get a ton of mileage out of assist abilities like smite and draw back. Reposition is awesome as well. I don't even know if I need a dancer anymore, now that I'm good at using these.
dreamlongdead
Member
Well, you have -DEF.
ATK, DEF, and SPD banes must be avoided at all costs. +SPD dramatically reduces damage and prevents ORKOs.
The_White_Rose
Member
What's a good C skill for Tharja? I have her paired with Ephraim who has Rally Defense and Hone Speed. Would Hone Attack be best?
yeah it means she can take marth on
toastyToast
Member
That's interesting. I have a few units with a fuck ton of SP but I'm not particularly sure what to do with.
Any ideas what you give Sanaki? I could give her a special but she only really attacks once or twice. Swordbreaker to at least give her something else she can do. She can kill almost all the greens already
My assumption was basically +1 per slotted skill, regardless of effectiveness of said skill.
Someone shows off his Bow Emblem run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PXtQQFTqe4
Fun watch. He got lucky not running into any TA raven tome though.
Fun watch. He got lucky not running into any TA raven tome though.
dreamlongdead
Member
Watching that video shows me that I should really think about giving Reposition to some units.
toastyToast
Member
Reposition is godlike. Completely changes some match ups. I was having a problem with blue mages but after putting reposition on Robin I can swing a green melee over and eliminate them instantly. It works out since they cover each other's weaknesses. Like I can toss Michalis back after he goes in then Robin can eat all the red melee damage and shrug it off with TA
SenorArdilla
Member
Pulled a 4* +DEF Reinhardt. Disappointed.
toastyToast
Member
Holy smokes! I ran into a Bunmilla with the full set of flier buffs + fury. 55 base attack. Fucking 85 attack!
Really would have been fucked without Snacky. Even with her crazy high res plus TA3 Camilla hit her for 17! For reference Julias with 50ish attack hit her for 0.
Almost had a perfect run but I got caught out by Wings of Mercy Azura smh. WoM being available on the same phase is complete BS
Really would have been fucked without Snacky. Even with her crazy high res plus TA3 Camilla hit her for 17! For reference Julias with 50ish attack hit her for 0.
Almost had a perfect run but I got caught out by Wings of Mercy Azura smh. WoM being available on the same phase is complete BS
I don't have her but I would take off Triangle Adept and replace it with Fury, so that she hits everyone harder instead of overkilling greens. With that in mind you could put on Vantage due to its synergy, or Swordbreaker, depending on whether you want her to be better on enemy or player phase.
No. You also can't Rally Attack/Speed someone under Hone Cavalry for example.
Odds of getting another Ursula? I want to put Death Blow on Reinhardt but she's the only unit I've got with it and for collection sake I don't want to give that up.
What special are people putting on him, Moonbow or Luna?
It's situational but putting Blue Tomebreaker on him allows him to survive Linde.
In other news I think I am ready for Permadeath Emblem.
What special are people putting on him, Moonbow or Luna?
It's situational but putting Blue Tomebreaker on him allows him to survive Linde.
In other news I think I am ready for Permadeath Emblem.
The_White_Rose
Member
Nope but Spur buffs do stack.
Technoweirdo
Member
Luna for more damage on a high-priority target. He could theoretically fire off Moonbow twice by attacking three targets, but it's pretty rare to -need- to fight three targets. Would have to question what the rest of your team's doing if that's the case.
Quick Riposte makes red mages and grays deader than dead and compensates for MRobin's lack of firepower.
Eh, not too fond of Blue Tomebreaker on Robin myself. It only brings the Linde matchup to even. Not winning. Even. Goes for most of the other blue mages too as they have the Res to go toe-to-toe with Robin even if he were to double them while taking him down to <50%. Reinhardt's the one exception as a mere +1 Atk (Thanks, Patch. 1.20 >.>) is enough to give him the one-shot against Robin.
-Atk...I'd go for +Spd. 30 Spd after Brave Lance and before buffs is pretty decent, I'd say.
I think I should be okay against most blue mages - I can use Julia to tank a hit most of the time and she deals with pesky green mages too now that I have GTome breaker.
Mostly been struggling against the Sanakis I run into I guess so I'll give QR a try.
Though maybe I should consider swapping out Robin entirely.
BlueLiquid
Member
It wasn't so much that Raven is bad, but with 5* Cherche (high attack), Camilla, Hector, Spring Chrom, and Anna I was already flush with axe wielders, and Brave Axe+ gives Cherche really good damage output.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Luna is great for him. Also it is tough finding a good B skill for him because he just kills nearly everything not green and rarely gets touched. Lancebreaker is about the best as it prevents units like Ephraim and Sharena from doubling him on enemy phase.
He seems awesome and I Will if I dont Get a better unit before I reach 20k
CuthbertAllgoodz
Member
I want a good 3* Cherche so bad but Frederick is not good enough to convince me to pull on greens for this banner. Not sure when there will be a good green on a banner again... 
Distant Counter Zephiel, Distant Counter Roy, Close Counter Blade Lilina, Ninian. Let's go!
Best Battling banner they have ever done. Pull blue for some of the best units in the game. Pull red for skills. Pull green for a solid Pony Emblem unit.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
The Grand Hero Battle banner is really good if you need a blue.
The Echoes banner is ok. Lukas is good, but one would rather have Nowi or Reinhardt.
So pull on the GHB for blues or wait for the next banner to arrive.
Hours Left
Member
Frederick and Cherche are both amazing, and their optimal builds are practically identical. I wouldn't write him off so quickly.I want a good 3* Cherche so bad but Frederick is not good enough to convince me to pull on greens for this banner. Not sure when there will be a good green on a banner again...
StrikeNinja24
Banned
Speaking of which, just pulled a 5* Frederick. What's a good setup for him?
He can basically be a better Gunter on a Cavalry team. Brave Axe, Pivot, Bonfire, Drag Back and Death Blow. As previously pointed out extremely similar to Cherche. C slot can be Hone/Fortify Cavalry or Threaten Attack.
- Status
Similar threads
- Poll