Isn't Strider UE3? Isn't this game UE3? Wasn't Thief UE3?
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Face off DmC X1 PS4. Where for art thou AF!
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Isn't Strider UE3? Isn't this game UE3? Wasn't Thief UE3?
or get Xbox One....if that's possible. :\
Oh, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're doing this, just that people doing this are very annoying and actually get in the way of finding out what's really happening just because of console wars or some stupidity like that.
It was done by Qloc, they're known for making fantastic ports.
It wasn't even originally developed by Capcom's internal team. I don't think the fact that Capcom published those games had any influence on this.
I don't see more than 360p and only see bilinear filtering without my glasses.
Journey
Banned
Are you sure about this??
Yeah, the PS4 has over 450 games total and like 8 or so have AF problems.
So, less than 2% of PS4 games, which is too many.
Dictator93
Member
No. Yes. Yes.
It happens in other games too that are not just UE3. So people think something else is up.
Some textures indeed have very low AF. Some scenes fair better though. In any case, it's not really applicable to the issue being discussed in the thread.
Not across the board. It's variable.
GayForMaster
Banned
The lack of AF lets the PS4 down, most of the image is smudge. I can't take the PS4 being included in the conclusion. I would go XBO and PC
Looks the same as last gen on PS4
Looks worse than last gen, seems more than just AF in places
The carpet is low detail with the character right there,
Detail is robbed due to being darker, not sure if this is giving the impression of a sharper look
This looks like some things were left out on PS4
I see character model clothing improved in some cases, it makes the game look sharper in some scenes, some extra blue lighting and extra glow. Some of the skys are blown out where all sky detail completely gone though.
That's fucking disgusting
Journey
Banned
Let's put it this way, number of games affected by jarring last gen levels of AF:
PS4: 8
XBO: 0
We want answers as to why this is happening, tis all.
Seems you've done something to rattle the self-styled DF white knights, because they seem to be very eager for a reason to have a go at you.
ArchedThunder
Banned
That's in only one side mission though.
Journey
Banned
Well then, what do you think about my theory that it has more to do with the type of engine/rending technique being employed?
Wait, there's 450 games on PS4 right now? Are you sure about that?
Also, I do believe there are many more than eight titles with AF problems. Perhaps there are only a handful of titles where AF is better on XO than PS4 but I'd argue *MOST* PS4 titles have poor or simply mediocre AF.
Dying Light and Evolve, for two.
chromatic9
Member
Seems like corners are being cut on PS4, its becoming quite common to see random low details. Think its was Evolve last time. Looks like "optimization" to me but don't know if its just directx conversion or some bandwidth issue.
I guess the conclusion is PS4 for comfy couch gaming and XBO,PC for those who sit a bit closer or hunched over a desktop.
I guess the conclusion is PS4 for comfy couch gaming and XBO,PC for those who sit a bit closer or hunched over a desktop.
That's not really accurate. If you are saying "last gen" levels AF, it would look more like:
PS4:Most games on the platform
XBO:Most games on the platform
Most console games overall just have poor AF across the board.
The issue is games where XBO has better AF than PS4, and it's not entirely one-sided as there are a couple of PS4 games that have better AF than XBO (Tomb Raider DE and Sniper Elite V3 off the top of my head), but it's a much smaller number than XBO>PS4 at this point. It isn't about "last gen" levels of AF, it is the inconsistency between the platforms, especially when it defies logical explanation.
I'd change that to "*MOST* console titles have poor or simply mediocre AF."
It's really hard to say. It's all speculation at this point. It sounds plausible since UE3 games in particular seem to be consistent with the problem. It feels like technical oversight makes sense to me, whether it's a missed tag when porting the engine to PS4 or what I have no idea, or the PS4-side breaking the AF implementation that works on other platforms and them just not catching it or bothering to figure out a fix, I don't know.
How are we sure about this? It's not that every game gets a face off.
What was worse graphically with Evolve on PS4?
Ok, let's say this way: The Order can't be used as an example of perfect AF PS4 capabilities.
Two (EDIT: Make that Three) Capcom published games in a row that are better on the weaker hardware.
lol
Hopefully they patch the AF, because holy shit does it make the textures look terrible on the PS4 version.
The filtering makes the textures look worse than the last gen versions.
lol, forgot about REmake.
This is just inexcusable imo...
Dictator93
Member
It had noticably lower AF.
TLOU has, from what I have seen, much more consistent AF.
Yeah. It's not like GAF or DF analyzes all games.
I'm sure that if we made a research, we would find a lot more games with this problem.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I didn't even know that, that makes this whole situation even stranger.
And a much worse draw distance.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Why is it coming?
alexandros
Banned
Misread post, disregard.
ArchedThunder
Banned
Unless we just get more devs saying there is no problem, in which case we are exactly where we are now.
Dictator93
Member
Than the x1 version? I didi not know that.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
It's a Capcom game so I went with the Xbox One version.
HUELEN10
Member
You have the option and resources and consoles to pick the version you deem better, yet you don't want to?
What?
Journey
Banned
Is the AF issue lopsided like the images shown here, or are we talking slightly better AF cases on PS4? because so far when this isssue is brought up, the AF difference is pretty jarring and in cases WORSE than last gen, I believe we have zero cases like this on XBO where AF looks worse than last gen. Also, both having bad AF doesn't negate the fact that PS4 has several titles that have the problem whereas the XBO version doesn't, I think that's the key issue that raises eyebrows, why is this the case when the PS4 has a more powerful GPU?
You've got to put this issue into context. Besides, strider which really seems like an anomaly, other multi-platform games where x1 version had better AF, ps4 versions either had high resolution and/or better framerate, more effects, etc.
So, this really is the first game where the x1 version has the same resolution/framerate and better AF.
This is actually a big milestone as all the previous months of MS freeing up resources seems to be finally bearing fruit.
Last gen, I think it took more than 2 years before we saw a ps3 version that was better than a x360 version. X1 is closing the gap quicker. Kudos to MS.
Muppet of a Man
Member
This time around, the reverse is actually true. Most multiplats thus far have been considerably better on PS4 than on X1, including performance, IQ, resolution, etc. There have been a handful of multiplats that are better on X1, though.
The issue is when the Xbox One inexplicably has better AF then the PS4 version of a game, so it's only conceivably an issue with 3rd party games.
In a case like this though, you can point to the PS3 version as having better AF even. But you compare it to something like The Last of Us, a similar last-gen port, which clearly has better AF on PS4 than on PS3, while also updating to 1080p and 60fps, with increased character models and effects on top of that.
Ditto for Tomb Raider
Its examples like this and The Unfinished Swan that makes all this so strange.
chromatic9
Member
Maybe just down to texture streaming or other LOD bug, perhaps someone can check in real time who have the game, seems to be quite common cut backs at this point though.
travisbickle
Member
I understand this reference.
And I want the lack of AF to continue because it's the funniest thing to happen to the console warrior exchange ever.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Two (EDIT: Make that Three) Capcom published games in a row that are better on the weaker hardware.
lol
Hopefully they patch the AF, because holy shit does it make the textures look terrible on the PS4 version.
The filtering makes the textures look worse than the last gen versions.
lol, forgot about REmake.
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck ..
That's atrocious.
Pyramid head
Banned
Last gen? Last gen was fine in comparison.
As an artist, this is horrible to look at. I wouldn't be happy with any textures I'd worked on reduced to a shitty smear.
I guess the conclusion is PS4 for comfy couch gaming and XBO,PC for those who sit a bit closer or hunched over a desktop.
I spat my water out at this....brilliant thumbs up!
Dictator93
Member
The lack of AF in Unfinished Swan is an artistic statement.
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
This is just pathetic. AF is one of the cheapest (performance-wise) and most noticeable graphical enhancements you can get. I've been using it since the days of Unreal Tournament 2004 on my Radeon 9600. PS4's GPU is probably 40X as powerful.
NT should've opted to have tearing more visible for the ps4 version to distract the players from noticing the horrible AF.
obviously it's not being enabled by default by reasons someone has to explain
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