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Take-Two: Bioshock franchise "really important for us"; series 25M, Infinite 11M
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KINGofCRA5H
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But, no Lavine...
Booker.DeWitt
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Bioshock without ken levine is not bioshock
scoobs
Member
Booker.DeWitt
Member
No wayyyyy
Ghostmaster
Member
No, the story was just a retread of Bioshock 1 and if you're playing Bioshock for its gameplay there are far better games out there.
Bioshock 2 is on par with the original and Infinite.
Brian_FETO
Banned
Whatever they do next, I hope they put their focus on gameplay/abilities
I have very little hope that they could do a story/world anywhere near the quality of 1 and Infinite so just make it play awesome and it'll be cool
Hell maybe take it in a different direction and break away from Infinite's fairly rigid storytelling (or even the radio/objective structure as a whole) and make it all silent exploration of whatever world they create. Bring back the isolation.
If they try to go down the wormhole of Infinite...good luck
I have very little hope that they could do a story/world anywhere near the quality of 1 and Infinite so just make it play awesome and it'll be cool
Hell maybe take it in a different direction and break away from Infinite's fairly rigid storytelling (or even the radio/objective structure as a whole) and make it all silent exploration of whatever world they create. Bring back the isolation.
If they try to go down the wormhole of Infinite...good luck
Booker.DeWitt
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Great to hear although it sucks Irrational and Ken Levine are no longer on the franchise...Bioshock 1 is one of my favorite games of all time.
Although i understand that Bioshock Infinite was a huge money sink(which wasnt worth it by the end IMO, i still feel sad about it.
I was never particularly attached to Bio 2 at all.
I hope they just reboot everything and just do something new if they are going to make another bioshock.
Of course, i'd buy an HD remaster trilogy
Although i understand that Bioshock Infinite was a huge money sink(which wasnt worth it by the end IMO, i still feel sad about it.
I was never particularly attached to Bio 2 at all.
I hope they just reboot everything and just do something new if they are going to make another bioshock.
Of course, i'd buy an HD remaster trilogy
Garrett Hawke
Member
I'm interested to see where they take the franchise as I wasn't really a fan of the (Infinite + Infinite DLC spoilers)
I imagine whatever they do it will look gorgeous, though. I can't imagine that whoever is doing the next Bioshock wouldn't make visual design as big of a priority as it always has been.
infinite universe thing as I felt like it cheapened or removed the impact of Bioshock 1. It's just another lighthouse, just another story etc
I imagine whatever they do it will look gorgeous, though. I can't imagine that whoever is doing the next Bioshock wouldn't make visual design as big of a priority as it always has been.
Super_Cobra
Member
I remember playing bioshock 1. What an awesome game. I never played 2 or infinite I would but I don't have a PS3.
Rock Howard
Member
I loved BS 2 and think the series is in good hands at 2K Marin. Levine simply isn´t the guy who is doing the same stuff over and over again, it´s good he left for something new.
I kind of wish Bioshock could be left in peace. I don't think any of the games have aged particularly well, and the latest entry (Burial At Sea 1 & 2) was a self-indulgent mess, frankly. I feel that in many ways Bioshock embodies all of the things that I want to leave behind from gen 7.
Better to have his hands out of the pudding honestly. Infinite was an embarrassing disaster.
zenosparadox
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Didn't they say that BioShock Infinite sold under expectations? 11 million is a lot. Maybe it was just the long, troubled development that was the problem.
NecromorphTX
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I want the trilogy remastered, now.
Levine gave us the mess that was Burial At Sea, so it's probably for the best.
PanicFreak
Member
I'll take more BioShock. The first one and Infinite were among my favorite games last gen.
That's always the problem
That's always the problem
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
Yeah. To be honest, this isn't a case like Kojima or the guy behind Earthbound where I feel like someone wouldn't be able to get the same/similar kind of style as the previous creator.
From a gameplay perspective Bioshock 1 and 2 played in a pretty interesting manner. Infinite was the only one I'd call generic.
Minervas Den is beautiful. I thought people were exaggerating when they were calling it the best piece of DLC ever, but it surpassed my expectations and then some.
scoobs
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There aren't far better Bioshock games though. Bioshock 2 played the best, and was every bit as entertaining story/world-building wise for me as the original was. To each their own... but to dismiss Bioshock 2 entirely I think is really misguided... it was a good game, and it proves Bioshock can live on without Ken and his team working on it.
In short, bring on more Bioshock!
blame space
Banned
BioShock Infinite is literally insane.
I do attribute my love for gaming somewhat to BioShock. I didn't like Infinite at all, but I suppose every developer's got their one rotten game. Still have hella respect for Ken Levine, though. Guy's great. Whatever game comes next in the -shock series, I hope he's involved in some fashion.
TheSpaceBetween
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Exactly. And They'd probably make a better version of Infinite without Levine, just like 2K Marin did with B2.
Finale Fireworker
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Please remaster the series now.
Or remake BioShock 1 on a purely technical level, since it's a mess.
Also I wish GAF could stop acting like Infinite is a bad game that people don't like.
Or remake BioShock 1 on a purely technical level, since it's a mess.
Also I wish GAF could stop acting like Infinite is a bad game that people don't like.
Loved all three BioShock games (well, 1 and 2 more than Infinite), and would love to see more. I'd take a remaster.
It really did surprise me. It's got a reasonable amount of depth and tells its story really well.
It really did surprise me. It's got a reasonable amount of depth and tells its story really well.
DOWN
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Only people who didn't play BioShock 1 at release say these messy comments. There's a reason 2 is the least successful in every measurement.
Ghostmaster
Member
They aren't generic but there are games with similar gameplay that do it better. Deus Ex: HR and Dishonored have far tighter gameplay.
But still I prefer Bioshock because I really don't like the artstyle or the world or the story of Dishonored, however the gameplay is definitely better.
Bioshock 1 has some cool plasmids, but the guns are awful, awful, like some of the worst ones in a game I've ever played. The best way to play that game is to enchant the shit out of your wrench and just wreck everything.
Finale Fireworker
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That's how I feel. BioShock 1 is like the perfect candidate for a remaster. Historically and culturally important game, a GREAT game, a much beloved game, and a game that could use a technical update. BioShock 1 at 1080p/60fps, BioShock 2's hacking as an option, and a better use of the engine to allow more kinds of enemies on screen at once would be phenomenal.
BioShock 2 is a stronger game mechanically without all the thematic impact and narrative construction that makes BioShock 1 crucially important to the video game canon. I don't write off BioShock 2 like many do, but it really can't hold a narrative candle to BioShock 1.
Infinite also seems like a no-brainer given how popular it is and the PC version already having ultra specs.
Bioshock 2 is a far better game than Bioshock Infinite.
Bioshock Infinite has some of the worst designed combat in any FPS I've ever played. The story is also a complete fucking mess, and the world design comes across more as a giant theme park than a real lived-in place.
B-but I liked the pipedream hacking minigame :'[
Da fq?
Finale Fireworker
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I really hope they go back to the immersive sim roots of System Shock for the next one. It should be a game that people compare side by side with Dishonored 2 and Deus Ex Humanity Divided rather than the "CoD except watered down and with magic powers" feel that Bioshock Infinite had.
That was the point.
Finale Fireworker
Member
Except it wasn't, and it's a hugely successful and beloved game. Just like TR2013, which GAF likes to think they're too good for.
Sorry Infinite was a linear shooter with singular themes. You got two BioShock games in Rapture. Infinite is its own thing stylistically and mechanically. If you don't like it, move on.
Sure, except the game was trying to convince us this theme park actually functioned as a city.
Oh, wow. I can't read, apparently. Totally with you.
Ghostmaster
Member
You people are crazy, yes the combat in Infinite was generic, but the combat in Bioshock 1 was downright bad.
Edit: Oh 2, never mind, still that's some crazy hyperbole. There are far worse FPSs out there than Infinite.