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Betty · Nov 23, 2015

Metal Gear Solid just mixes real world history with behind the scenes events that influenced things. Nothing overarchingly bad, detail wise... that's another story.

Gears of War is the real answer.

These creatures called Locust come out from the earth and no one had any idea they were there?

Then humanity reaches a point where they expect to lose, so they try to destroy their planet with satellite lasers... and they fail at doing that.

After trying to seppuku they then decide to fight back? And one of their best ideas was to sink the last intact city on the planet, which ended up mutating their enemy because goo.

Tingle · Nov 23, 2015

I think Pokemon is a great contender. It has an amazing setting and great potential, but they never really do anything with it. Doesn't hurt the games at all to me, but it can make the games feel a bit flat at times.

UnluckyKate · Nov 23, 2015

koryuken said:
Destiny.

I should have been the first post.

destiny's lore is amazeballs you fool

Crossing Eden · Nov 23, 2015

NotLiquid said:
Assassin's Creed has at the very least the worst framing device.

Quite the opposite. AC's animus contextualizes a ton of gameplay elements compared to a the sheer amount of IPs in gaming. Also is brilliant as a framing device. And they've gone full meta with it becoming an entertainment device.

XANDER CAGE · Nov 23, 2015

koryuken said:
I am referring to what's in the game. I'm not counting websites.

But that is the lore, whether it's in the game or not. That's like saying the TF2 comics don't count because they're comics, or discounting the Halo novels. That's the extended universe/backstory/lore, it doesn't matter where it is.

Destiny's in-game use of its own writing sucks, yeah.

BTHR Zero X · Nov 23, 2015

oti xero said:
His arm is his wife.

If you mean Bionic Commando, you are wrong his Arm is not his wife, it never has been... the article was written by an idiot.

Cerity · Nov 23, 2015

EpitaphUnmei said:
Final Fantasy 13 Not enough and poor plot, felt like i had to fight myself to finish that game.

The lore itself was quite nice IMO, just hidden away in the encyclopedia/data logs. Just like the main plot points were.

gfxtwin · Nov 23, 2015

Mass Effect. So many Sci-Fi tropes told via bland dialogue.

Hibiki Kurosawa · Nov 23, 2015

NinjaCoachZ said:
I don't, lol. That's why I dislike that the series went in the direction it did of being too lore-heavy. SF64 as it is was fine, it's everything since that bugs me.

0's lack of lore isn't an issue, it's being too similar to 64 that's the issue.

Ah, fair enough. I honestly didn't even know Star Fox had actual lore until I read your post.

Feltrol · Nov 23, 2015

Blobbers said:
Metal Gear Solid.

Dunkley · Nov 23, 2015

Tingle said:
I think Pokemon is a great contender. It has an amazing setting and great potential, but they never really do anything with it. Doesn't hurt the games at all to me, but it can make the games feel a bit flat at times.

Pokémon's lore isn't outstanding, I agree, but I wouldn't consider it amongst the worst.

EpitaphUnmei said:
Final Fantasy 13 Not enough and poor plot, felt like i had to fight myself to finish that game.

I didn't like the story of 13 but I found the lore to its' world actually kinda nice.

moojito · Nov 23, 2015

I don't fully appreciate pac man's motivation to get all the dots. I'm sure the dots wronged him in some way, maybe pac man sr was killed by a rogue gang of dots? They just don't say.

Alandrus Sun · Nov 23, 2015

Kingdom Hearts, the game that requires to buy every gaming platform in existence to even begin to understand its story.

Tingle · Nov 23, 2015

Dunkley said:
Pokémon's lore isn't outstanding, I agree, but I wouldn't consider it amongst the worst.

Yeah, I suppose I agree. Honestly, nothing listed in this thread is all that bad. Pokemon is just somewhat of a letdown based on its potential.

Creaking · Nov 23, 2015

Killzone apparently has a decent universe, but the game plots dumb everything down to space Nazis vs. space Americans.

timetokill · Nov 23, 2015

Blobbers said:
Metal Gear Solid.

bobbychalkers said:
The overarching Kingdom Hears lore kills whatever interest I have whenever a new trailer for KH3 comes out.

First two posts nail it!

I'd like to add The Elder Scrolls into the mix.

Dargor · Nov 23, 2015

Easily, Fallout 3.

Seriously, no contest.

LiK · Nov 23, 2015

Super Mario Bros and Sonic.

Moronwind · Nov 23, 2015

Deus Ex. Hodge-podge of every stock conspiracy in the book.

Jotamide · Nov 23, 2015

gfxtwin said:
Mass Effect. So many Sci-Fi tropes told via bland dialogue.

I was waiting for this fallacy to be posted. I may even like the ME universe more than Star Wars.

Creaking said:
Killzone apparently has a decent universe, but the game plots dumb everything down to space Nazis vs. space Americans.

This gets my vote.

Griss · Nov 23, 2015

TC McQueen said:
Halo.

Even setting aside the shitty ancient human with absurd technology bullshit, the way the novels have degenerated since Eric Nylund left is super depressing. The Catherine Halsey character assassination is the worst, especially since it comes hand in hand with wanking out the stupid evil group known as ONI.

This was going to be my answer. Whenever you have fully spoken 'alien councils' you've utterly fucking lost me. Making your main character the most generic space marine possible and his love interest a fucking Mary Sue AI - an AI! - and it's a shitshow all around.

The mutliplayer's great, though.

Warxard · Nov 23, 2015

Street Fighter.

A great way to establish character personality through the comics but otherwise it's borderline nonsense. :/

Tingle · Nov 23, 2015

Boo Boo'n said:
Street Fighter.

A great way to establish character personality through the comics but otherwise it's borderline nonsense. :/

Yeah, this is a good choice. In the games, they basically just make vague references that there is lore. I really couldn't tell you what is supposed to be happening in it.

Mephala · Nov 23, 2015

Most fighting games have some questionable lore. ASW ones in particular are odd and ambiguous.

HP_Wuvcraft · Nov 23, 2015

Joey Ravn said:
You know that is fully explained in MGS4, right? The explanation is not exactly grounded in reality, but it's far more plausible than "nanomachines, son".

MGS fans are the best when it comes to justifying bullshit.

gfxtwin said:
Mass Effect. So many Sci-Fi tropes told via bland dialogue.

That was the entire point of the first one, though.

Mass Effect didn't get up its own ass until 3.

The fact that everybody hated the Reaper Baby proves it just went over people's heads.

BlindJesus · Nov 23, 2015

Hibiki Kurosawa said:
I can't wait until SE releases FF's official timeline. That'll be fun!

My Final Fantasy knowledge is almost non-existent, I've only played( and loved) FFX...but are you saying all of the FF games are in the same universe? If that's the case, it surely must be done in some convoluted Zelda-esque way?

t26 · Nov 23, 2015

Kingdom Hearts. Final Fantasy XIII was pretty bad across 3 games and type 0

jelly · Nov 23, 2015

Halo, aliens, humans, older aliens, other aliens, older humans, what.

The Baron Count · Nov 23, 2015

Betty said:
Metal Gear Solid just mixes real world history with behind the scenes events that influenced things. Nothing overarchingly bad, detail wise... that's another story.

Gears of War is the real answer.

These creatures called Locust come out from the earth and no one had any idea they were there?

Then humanity reaches a point where they expect to lose, so they try to destroy their planet with satellite lasers... and they fail at doing that.

After trying to seppuku they then decide to fight back? And one of their best ideas was to sink the last intact city on the planet, which ended up mutating their enemy because goo.

Hmmm, you know I think Gears might be the best answer I have seen to this topic. It's really fucking bad.

Diablohead · Nov 23, 2015

koryuken said:
Destiny.

I should have been the first post.

Destiny lore can be amazing if you dedicate time to reading the grimore cards, we just don't know enough from playing the game itself.

Dictator93 · Nov 23, 2015

jelly said:
Halo, aliens, humans, older aliens,

older humans, what.

If you get rid of the last part, it is actually somewhat interesting IMO

GametimeUK · Nov 23, 2015

I love Japanese games, but most of the lore is horrendous. It is actually part of the charm and appeal to me.

SatoAilDarko · Nov 23, 2015

bobbychalkers said:
The overarching Kingdom Hears lore kills whatever interest I have whenever a new trailer for KH3 comes out.

This. I just want to see this story finally end.

The first game was fine but since then the story is just stupid.

How many fucking multiples can you have in a series?

Maintenance · Nov 23, 2015

Destiny, Kingdom Hearts, Dark Souls.

The Baron Count · Nov 23, 2015

Maintenance said:
Destiny, Kingdom Hearts, Dark Souls.

Really don't get why people are saying Dark Souls. I am one of the people who isn't a fan of them insisting on putting their "story" in the lore, but I still feel that what is actually there is very interesting.

Ezalc · Nov 23, 2015

Kingdom Hearts is definitely up there.

It was sort of interesting in the first, then it just went to shit because of how stupid and convoluted it got.

I haven't played MGS, aside from Rising, but after seeing all the posts about it and the jokes throughout the years it comes across to me as just as if not more stupid and convoluted as KH, which is a pretty big feat in and of itself.

Timu · Nov 23, 2015

James Scott said:
5 nights at Freddy's is pretty bad.

I didn't know that had a lore!!!

cyba89 · Nov 23, 2015

Sonic.

Lumpy Onion · Nov 23, 2015

While I love the lore of FF XIII and found it far more interesting than the main storyline I gotta say that XIII-2 and LR have awful lore. Stupid shit like "time paradoxes" , "unseen realms", and "hearts of chaos" made things super dumb. It's almost so bad I practically refuse to consider it canon.

Zen_Arcade · Nov 23, 2015

Tingle said:
I think Pokemon is a great contender. It has an amazing setting and great potential, but they never really do anything with it. Doesn't hurt the games at all to me, but it can make the games feel a bit flat at times.

I don't know man. The story is always pretty bland, but the lore and detail behind the individual Pokemon kind of takes it out of the "Worst lore" contender for me. There is a lot of cool thought and detail put into those things.

gdt · Nov 23, 2015

Gears is a great answer. There is nothing there. The snapshot you get is interesting and you figure there is cool shit to find out....but there is literally nothing haha.

Destiny's lore is amazing. Some of the coolest shit around. Hopefully they can one day really start bringing in game.

Breads · Nov 23, 2015

tensuke said:
Wrongest first post in the history of wrong first posts.

I disagree. Volumes upon volumes of backstory can be summed up with Nuclear Deterrance, Parasites, Nanomachines, and PMCs.

Except, you know, the explanation of the magic, psychic powers, tornado shooting guns, infinite ammo bandanas, and what not.

Crossing Eden said:
Quite the opposite. AC's animus contextualizes a ton of gameplay elements compared to a the sheer amount of IPs in gaming. Also is brilliant as a framing device. And they've gone full meta with it becoming an entertainment device.

It pretended to be interesting and then they changed direction with it and it's true colors of being the shallow excuse to throw in game mechanics into random settings were exposed. The game you're playing being set up as a game the main character is playing is not a brilliant anything.

jelly · Nov 23, 2015

Dictator93 said:
If you get rid of the last part, it is actually somewhat interesting IMO

Yeah, there is something there for sure, it's just lost in the extra layers. I feel it gets instantly worse the more they reveal and maybe just me but tone down the military, it's Saturday Morning Adventures of The UNSC. 343 need to mix that up. Hopefully the struggle in Halo 6 turns it down a notch.

BlackBuzzard · Nov 23, 2015

Creaking said:
Killzone apparently has a decent universe, but the game plots dumb everything down to space Nazis vs. space Americans.

Im glad they decided to finally hire a good writer so that Horizon hopefully does not suffer the same issues.

jelly · Nov 23, 2015

gdt said:
Gears is a great answer. There is nothing there. The snapshot you get is interesting and you figure there is cool shit to find out....but there is literally nothing

Yeah, totally. It's going to interesting to see how Black Tusk fill that void.

Skyward Sheep · Nov 23, 2015

gfxtwin said:
Mass Effect. So many Sci-Fi tropes told via bland dialogue.

I wouldn't class dialogue as "lore" really. While the main story told through the games may have been lacking, especially in 3, the overall background and lore of the universe was really interesting.

Twilight Gap · Nov 23, 2015

Halo's lore and story is incredibly stupid right now. Used to be something I was interested in until they started explaining the Foreruners. Uck

WhiteRabbitEXE · Nov 23, 2015

Dictator93 said:
If you get rid of the last part, it is actually somewhat interesting IMO

Twilight Gap said:
Halo's lore and story is incredibly stupid right now. Used to be something I was interested in until they started explaining the Foreruners. Uck

Greg Bear's Forerunner Saga, which established all that, is pretty much the best material in the Halo series by far, so nah.

gdt said:
Gears is a great answer. There is nothing there. The snapshot you get is interesting and you figure there is cool shit to find out....but there is literally nothing haha.

All the backstory and lore that has been filled out in the books is just plain awful too. People would be genuinely better off knowing as little of Gears' lore as possible.

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People saying Halo...

SMH.

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