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Lights and Waves · Jan 5, 2016

I'm interested in gauging people's opinions on this. Having just recently completely Arkham Knight, I was skeptical of all the criticism it received before I got my hands on it. "Could the Batmobile really be that big of a deal-breaker?" Unfortunately, it was.

It's difficult to separate the fantastic accomplishments of the first two games (for the sake of this conversation, let's consider Origins to be part of a spin-off series) from the disappointment that Arkham Knight turned out to be. In my mind now, it feels like the whole saga was ruined.

Do the shortcomings of this game spoil your memory of the series, or are you able to keep the three games separate in your bank of fuzzy feelings? Additionally, do you think there's a chance that Rocksteady could salvage some of this disappointment when the GOTY edition is released?

Spring-Loaded · Jan 5, 2016

Just the PC version

Replaying Arkham Asylum has spoiled my memory of that game though.

jacobeid · Jan 5, 2016

Yes. I'm done.

Totally ruined the future of the series for me, though I'd love to be proved wrong.

MickeyKnox · Jan 5, 2016

Further cemented Origins as the best one.

SictorVullivan · Jan 5, 2016

Nah, because it's the second best Arkham game behind Asylum.

Kyoufu · Jan 5, 2016

City soured me already. Unnecessary open world sandbox with dumb Riddler puzzles.

Inferno313 · Jan 5, 2016

Nah. People who let one entry ruin an entire thing for them are crazy.

Literally nothing has been done to Asylum or City.

Coffee Dog · Jan 5, 2016

Arkham Knight doesn't have the ability to go back in time and make Asylum, City, and Origins worse games, so no.

lucebuce12 · Jan 5, 2016

It's certainly a disappointing game overall, but I don't think it ended badly enough to sour the rest of the series. Asylum and City are still fantastic games and Origins is a very good game.

LiK · Jan 5, 2016

no, it was a fitting conclusion. but i think it's time Rocksteady did something else.

velociraptor · Jan 5, 2016

Has the PC version been fixed yet?

Linkstrikesback · Jan 5, 2016

No. The batmobile sucked and should have had maybe 1/4 the missions/involvement it did, at most, but the series overall is still solid.

Just glad I didn't plan on playing it on PC like I did AA/AC.

velociraptor said:
Has the PC version been fixed yet?

It's never being fixed properly.

VeryGooster · Jan 5, 2016

No. Having done a platinum run of Arkham Asylum a year ago I found I still enjoy that game immensely. I still like City, but Asylum will be my number one. I don't even know if I'll finish Arkham Knight.

unknownhero · Jan 5, 2016

to the previous games? no. Post arkham knight? let's just say that I won't be pre-ordering any games from rocksteady, or wb for that matter, anymore.

Jobbs · Jan 5, 2016

Yes. I finished the first two Rocksteady games and generally liked them, but I couldn't finish AK. I just couldn't do the car/tank stuff. I so didn't care. I was taken over by a wave of not caring. I couldn't hang with it.

BennyBlanco · Jan 5, 2016

Yeah, it was bad. Admittedly I'm not a fan of the source material but Arkham City and Asylum both hooked me.

The bat tank shit was awful. Dropped it in like 2 hours.

Messofanego · Jan 5, 2016

Rocksteady...

etta · Jan 5, 2016

No, it was my favourite of the series. Well, maybe just even with Asylum.

Lothars · Jan 5, 2016

Nope It's the second best Arkham game behind Origins. It has some big issues but I was impressed with some of the things they did.

Dio Brando · Jan 5, 2016

Not really. i mean, i would've preferred actual boss-fights, but i didn't really hate the batmobile. the only thing the game really soured was my view on WB and their ports.

BTW, i think it's fun how most people ignore Origins, when it was probably the best arkham.

TM94 · Jan 5, 2016

No fantastic game, thanks for a great ending to a trilogy Rocksteady.

Doctor Ironic · Jan 5, 2016

No, because it's the best one.

Count of Monte Sawed-Off · Jan 5, 2016

Not really, it had some issues but it's better than Arkham City. Asylum remains the best.

Ikuu · Jan 5, 2016

No, it was the worst of the 4 though.

No_Style · Jan 5, 2016

SictorVullivan said:
Nah, because it's the second best Arkham game behind Asylum.

This right here. Arkham City put a damper on the series which resulted in me skipping Origins. Arkham Knight was what I hoped for out of City. The Batmobile was excessive but I didn't really mind it.

brau · Jan 5, 2016

Nope. Had a great time with the PS4 version of the game first hand. Was lucky to be able to return the PC version after the last patch that promised it fixed everything. But i was not bitter or anything. Still a great game. Sad that the PC version is so broken.

Inferno313 · Jan 5, 2016

ChaosZeroX · Jan 5, 2016

No. It was great and I enjoyed it minus the BatTank.

Afrodium · Jan 5, 2016

I've only played Asylum and Knight, but I thought Arkham Knight was a great game. The Batmobile was fun.

JoduanER2 · Jan 5, 2016

Nope, but there is a noticeable drop in the level design quality, its like they wasnt having fun while making it.

Shepard · Jan 5, 2016

Finished it on PC a few weeks ago and I like it just as much as the previous ones. Once you go through the first half of the game, the Batmobile missions arent as frequent and I actually enjoyed using it to travel around the town. I'd rate it above City but below Asylum.

Mr. Nice_Guy · Jan 5, 2016

No. Not sure I'll ever finish it; just nit liking it enough to keep playing. I'll always love Asylum and City though. Someday I'll probably play Origins.

dralla · Jan 5, 2016

Honestly, Arkham City soured me on the series. The open world structure didn't work for me at all. It was filled with nothing but inconsequential collectables and added nothing and the pacing and cohesiveness took a serious hit. Arkham Asylum is a fantastic game, but the series as a whole isn't anything special.

Mesoian · Jan 5, 2016

No, it was fine.

But I am now thoroughly fatigued on that type of game and will likely wait quite a while to play the next one. Between Knight and Mad Max, i've had my fill of the open world batman formula.

They were fine games though.

komorebi · Jan 5, 2016

SictorVullivan said:
Nah, because it's the second best Arkham game behind Asylum.

This.

I also loved the Batmobile.

Acquiescence · Jan 5, 2016

No, because I think AK is the best one in the series.

hammertomb · Jan 5, 2016

I loved Arkham knight. The batmobile is something that I've wanted to control ever since i saw it in asylum, and Arkham knight more than delivered .The story was mediocre, but the combat was just so good that it more than made up for it. I think it's the perfect end to the trilogy.

adj_noun · Jan 5, 2016

I really liked it, so I suppose it goes without saying that it didn't sour anything.

It had some of my favorite character interactions that the series has done.

dcelw540 · Jan 5, 2016

I enjoyed it but man it the weakest. I was expecting a few things:

1) boss fights
2) an interesting story for arkham knight
3) scarecrow as a good main villian
4) Good balance of batmobile and character usage
5) civilians to save in the city
6) more villains to show up
7) a good wrap up for the trilogy

sadly it didn't deliver to much on my list :/
oh well, it's batman!

Waxwing · Jan 5, 2016

I really don't get the batmobile hate. I thought the tank battles were quite a bit of fun, and even if you didn't like those bits, much of it was optional and there was PLENTY of other content. I was more disappointed by some of the story reveals, though the ending pretty much made up for it. Overall, I'd put it just a peg beneath City and well above Asylum and Origins.

UnderWaterTree · Jan 5, 2016

nah i think knight wasn't a bad game i just think hype got the better of it its still a good game though

antitrop · Jan 5, 2016

Gooster said:
No. Having done a platinum run of Arkham Asylum a year ago I found I still enjoy that game immensely. I still like City, but Asylum will be my number one. I don't even know if I'll finish Arkham Knight.

The ending is the worst part, so don't bother.

The last few hours of that game were just Batmobile torture. And I don't even hate the Batmobile as much as many others do, they just went wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy overboard with it at the end there.

I think the last few hours are what kept it out of my Top 10 list for the year. It was that bad, I really hated every minute of it.

MatrixMan.EXE · Jan 5, 2016

It was a great game, and I loved the Batmobile *shrugs*

Qurupeke · Jan 5, 2016

Arkham City and Asylum both were perfect. I don't really see why they wanted to continue the series so much.

BruceLeeRoy · Jan 5, 2016

Inferno313 said:

This has to be one of my favorite gifs of all time. Every time I see it I crack up

rrc1594 · Jan 5, 2016

Fuck no it's Batman.

Hupsel · Jan 5, 2016

Game is great imo. Best story in the series. Batmobile was a bit underused and some side activities were terrible/repetitive but the main story and quest was the best one imo.

JaseMath · Jan 5, 2016

I loved it up until the end. The Batmobile boss fights were absolutely terrible in terms of planning and execution.

Courage · Jan 5, 2016

Nah it's still a good game. Batmobile doesn't detract from what actually works in the game.

Lights and Waves · Jan 5, 2016

antitrop said:
The ending is the worst part, so don't bother.

The last few hours of that game were just Batmobile torture. And I don't even hate the Batmobile as much as many others do, they just went wwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy overboard with it at the end there.

I thought the ending portion where you

play as the Joker in Batman's mind

was fantastic, but the back to back Batmobile boss battles were such frustrating garbage.

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