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Rajack · May 10, 2016

http://deadstate.org/illinois-gop-i...dad-their-babies-wont-get-birth-certificates/

Being a single mom in Springfield, Illinois could get a little more difficult if certain GOP lawmakers get their way.

According to the proposed bill HB6064 filed last week by Reps John D. Cavaletto and Keith Wheeler, if a father is not listed on a newborn childs birth certificate, the birth certificate will not be issued for the child and any future financial assistance will be denied.

From the proposed legislation, as reported by the Chicagoist:

[The bill provides] that if the unmarried mother cannot or refuses to name the childs father, either a father must be conclusively established by DNA evidence or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named, in court, on the birth certificate. Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family members name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child.

And just when you thought the GOP couldn't possibly get any worse with their insane rhetoric...

UnemployedVillain · May 10, 2016

Fat4all · May 10, 2016

The fuck?

echoshifting · May 10, 2016

[The bill provides] that if the unmarried mother cannot or refuses to name the childs father, either a father must be conclusively established by DNA evidence or, within 30 days after birth, another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named, in court, on the birth certificate. Provides that absent DNA evidence or a family members name, a birth certificate will not be issued and the mother will be ineligible for financial aid from the State for support of the child.

I've had my fill of GOP bullshit for the week and it's only Monday. Fucking unreal.

zero_suit · May 10, 2016

The hell?

gnexus · May 10, 2016

So.. uh.. wait, what?

Plinko · May 10, 2016

I have zero idea what this is supposed to accomplish.

Yaboosh · May 10, 2016

What are the repercussions of not having a birth certificate?

epmode · May 10, 2016

So who actually deserves financial aid? According to the people that try to pass laws like this, I mean.

GiantEnemyGoomba · May 10, 2016

What kinda bullshit is this

ThisOne · May 10, 2016

How does this help anyone or anything? What's the point?

JC Sera · May 10, 2016

In what way could you ever justify such a law?

UraMallas · May 10, 2016

There has to be more to this. Right? It can't just be exactly how it sounds. It makes no sense.

uncredited male · May 10, 2016

another family member who will financially provide for the child must be named

Oh, I get it.

Lebron · May 10, 2016

George Carlin was right

UnemployedVillain · May 10, 2016

epmode said:
So who actually deserves public assistance? According to the people that try to pass laws like this, I mean.

Rich people whose high taxation is literally killing their livelihood

Yaboosh · May 10, 2016

uncredited male said:
Oh, I get it.

I mean, that isn't a secret motivation. It is the overt motivation.

echoshifting · May 10, 2016

Plinko said:
I have zero idea what this is supposed to accomplish.

From further down in the article:

State Rep. Jeanne Ives said:
You need to have verifiable need. You better know who the daddy is and whether or not he can afford that child and whether or not the taxpayers should be funding that or if theres actual child support he can provide.

Fortunately it sounds like this is likely to be killed.

BriGuy · May 10, 2016

I've heard it said that the GOP was pro-life up until the baby was born, but I thought that was an exaggeration. 30 days? Damn.

Wilsongt · May 10, 2016

Holy shit.

witness · May 10, 2016

Are you fucking kidding me? Ready to bail out of this shitty country.

Barzul · May 10, 2016

Is...is this even legal? How else do these babies establish citizenship?

alba · May 10, 2016

Lebron said:
George Carlin was right

Yup and it has always slowly been getting worse and now we're just starting to hit the bottom of the barrel.

Switch Back 9 · May 10, 2016

What in the god damn fuck is wrong with this part of your country 'Murica GAF?

Not Illinois, the GOP members and supporters. I can't even wrap my head around shit like this.

Like honestly, this is just so pointlessly evil I don't understand the it.

IdreamofHIME · May 10, 2016

Just tattoo Bastard on the kid and Whore on the mother.
Fucking disgusting thing for a politician to think up in the Uninted States of America. It's like some draconian thing I should be finding out about from Amnesty international about some poor junta ruled country.

dab0ne · May 10, 2016

My sister in law is a lesbian who is planning artificial insemination. I'm guessing this includes her too? Fucking ridiculous.

WhiteRabbitEXE · May 10, 2016

Plinko said:
I have zero idea what this is supposed to accomplish.

I'm guessing their idea is to prevent single women from having children for the purpose of collecting aid checks.

Which... Yeah... You can fill in the rest of the blanks on that thinking from there.

ElBoxyBrown · May 10, 2016

......................what?

This doesn't make any sense. You need a birth certificate to prove your name, birthday, and citizenship. How will you get a job without one?

Plinko · May 10, 2016

echoshifting said:
From further down in the article:

Fortunately it sounds like this is likely to be killed.

That reason is not justifiable in the least. I can't believe they thought this was a good idea.

rjinaz · May 10, 2016

Hey, I'm Father and I sure as hell know who the Mother of my child is! What year is this again?

My half sister is 40 years old and still has no idea who her father is to this day. My mom used to sleep around when she was a teen. Good for her. Sucks for my sister, sure, but still.

UnemployedVillain · May 10, 2016

You know a bill is some shit when even Youtube comments are unanimously against it

WhiteRabbitEXE · May 10, 2016

Plinko said:
That reason is not justifiable in the least. I can't believe they thought this was a good idea.

I mean, good ideas died in this party ages ago.

Squirrel Killer · May 10, 2016

Single moms can't list the biological father?

VenomousCoffee · May 10, 2016

If this is what they're doing before Trump's blowout loss in the gen election, wonder what they'll be proposing a year from now.

IdreamofHIME · May 10, 2016

...wait, this is from February?

GK86 · May 10, 2016

Nice try, Onion.

theepicoftyler · May 10, 2016

Some ignorant garbage from people who represent like 1% of the population of the state of Illinois.

Pau · May 10, 2016

How you can reconcile something like this and also being "pro-life" is beyond me.

Koomaster · May 10, 2016

BriGuy said:
I've heard it said that the GOP was pro-life up until the baby was born, but I thought that was an exaggeration. 30 days? Damn.

Basically came to post this, and it's so true. If the baby is in the womb that life is the most fucking precious thing in the world. But once it's born, fuck it, may as well throw it in the trash because the GOP doesn't give any more shits.

Keep punishing babies and those in need GOP; it's a real good look. :/

Edit: As if on cue...

Just going to laugh now because what the hell.

BudokaiMR2 · May 10, 2016

Yaboosh said:
What are the repercussions of not having a birth certificate?

An incredible amount of repercussions. I don't even know how a person's citizenship would be handled in such a situation. They would probably be treated like an illegal immigrant I guess?
They wouldn't be able to get a social security number, which would keep them from government aid. They wouldn't be able to get any type of federal ID, which would block them from a lot of stuff, most notably being able to vote!

Ms.Galaxy · May 10, 2016

Are they going completely insane? Like, I can't describe or even think on how to debate against something like this. It's just so bizarre to even think of a reason for this. Once again, I feel like the GOP is turning into an Onion/GTA parody of itself.

cdyhybrid · May 10, 2016

Both parties are the same.

lol

NeonBlack · May 10, 2016

The children are our future. But only if they have documented financial support.

Somnid · May 10, 2016

So the stated reason is that they want to go after the father instead of paying the child support if possible. Okay, but clearly if she didn't list him and he didn't get himself listed he's not going to pay.

SimpleGamer · May 10, 2016

UnemployedVillain said:

Literally my first reaction after reading the thread title.

nckillthegrimace · May 10, 2016

Seems blatantly unconstitutional. Not to mention that the motive behind the bill is nakedly racist. The real waste of tax dollars is paying the salary of the miserable fuck who proposed this trash.

gutter_trash · May 10, 2016

voter suppression starting at birth, wow

cameron · May 10, 2016

IdreamofHIME said:
...wait, this is from February?

It is from February. Snopes has a summary:

It was true that Reps. John D. Cavaletto and Keith Wheeler proposed a bill on 11 February 2016 that, if passed, would inhibit the acquisition of a birth certificate for some single mothers. However, that proposal's primary target appeared to be scenarios in which a child's father could be named on a birth certificate (and thus be liable for providing support) but wasn't, placing the fiscal burden of care for a child onto taxpayers.

While the onus was placed on the child's mother to comply in naming the father and completing that record (which would, arguably, make life extremely difficult for single mothers unwilling or unable to comply for a variety of reasons) the bill's goal appeared to be ensuring that fathers of babies born to single mothers paid support for their offspring rather than allowing the state to pick up the tab.

http://www.snopes.com/single-mother-birth-certificate/

Rajack · May 10, 2016

BudokaiMR2 said:
An incredible amount of repercussions. I don't even know how a person's citizenship would be handled in such a situation. They would probably be treated like an illegal immigrant I guess?
They wouldn't be able to get a social security number, which would keep them from government aid. They wouldn't be able to get any type of federal ID, which would block them from a lot of stuff, most notably being able to vote!

AND THERE WE HAVE THEIR ULTIMATE GOAL. Voter suppression.

suaveric · May 10, 2016

The democrats have a super majority in the Illinois legislature, this is going nowhere.

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