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Plum · Jul 19, 2016

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36834293

Currently breaking news, all we know at this time is that 3 people have died outside a swimming pool in Spalding, Linconshire. I'll update when more details come in.

UPDATES:

BBC News said:
Those killed include the suspected gunman, Lincolnshire Police said, with no shots fired by the force.

BBC News said:
A force spokesman said there was no indication it was a "terror-related" incident.

OCD Guy · Jul 19, 2016

What is going on this week? !

Carl · Jul 19, 2016

Oh fuck that's quite near me. Horrible

Ullus · Jul 19, 2016

Those killed include the suspected gunman, Lincolnshire Police said, with no shots fired by the force.

Sounds like murder suicide.

FortuneFaded · Jul 19, 2016

So he killed 2 and then turned on himself.

Pankratous · Jul 19, 2016

Seems to be two dead + the shooter killed himself totaling 3, judging from the BBC news 'banner' on their main page.

uncleniccius · Jul 19, 2016

Pankratous said:
Seems to be two dead + the shooter killed himself totaling 3, judging from the BBC news 'banner' on their main page.

That is what has just been said on the news.

danowat · Jul 19, 2016

The fuck is going on :-(

Indelible · Jul 19, 2016

Is it even possible to go a full week without a shooting, this is getting ridiculous.

Real Hero · Jul 19, 2016

Indelible said:
Is it even possible to go a full week without a shooting, this is getting ridiculous.

in the world? of course that's not possible

Yagharek · Jul 19, 2016

Indelible said:
Is it even possible to go a full week without a shooting, this is getting ridiculous.

Its a big world, there are numerous shootings daily. Doesnt make them any less tragic, but they are frequent.

Mr. Giggles · Jul 19, 2016

Indelible said:
Is it even possible to go a full week without a shooting, this is getting ridiculous.

You might be reading too much news

Paz · Jul 19, 2016

Indelible said:
Is it even possible to go a full week without a shooting, this is getting ridiculous.

In the UK? Probably, in the world? No, in the USA alone there are more 'mass' shootings than days in the year, let alone weeks.

Meadows · Jul 19, 2016

Indelible said:
Is it even possible to go a full week without a shooting, this is getting ridiculous.

...There's 7 billion people in the world, one of them will shoot someone each week.

frankie_baby · Jul 19, 2016

Yagharek said:
Its a big world, there are numerous shootings daily. Doesnt make them any less tragic, but they are frequent.

In the UK this is pretty shocking, in the US this would be a typical tuesday

WhateverItTakes · Jul 19, 2016

frankie_baby said:
In the UK this is pretty shocking, in the US this would be a typical tuesday

Still, we had Jo Cox's murder little more than a month ago? Are these kind of attacks increasing in frequency here or are the last few months taking a toll on my perspective...

Jezbollah · Jul 19, 2016

Yep, so as an FYI, this is the first "mass murder" incident in 6 years. Excluding 7/7 it'll be the second in 20 years (since Dunblane)

frankie_baby · Jul 19, 2016

WhateverItTakes said:
Still, we had Jo Cox's murder little more than a month ago? Are these kind of attacks increasing in frequency here or are the last few months taking a toll on my perspective...

I'm not saying we dont ever have murders here, just that unlike the other side of the pond where multiple murders are an every day ocurance they are pretty rare here

Edit - well from the post above even rarer than i imagined

Meadows · Jul 19, 2016

WhateverItTakes said:
Still, we had Jo Cox's murder little more than a month ago? Are these kind of attacks increasing in frequency here or are the last few months taking a toll on my perspective...

They are not increasing.

MilkyJoe · Jul 19, 2016

I've been to that pool, my mate used to work there...

WhateverItTakes · Jul 19, 2016

Dan27 said:
Yep, so as an FYI, this is the first "mass murder" incident in 6 years. Excluding 7/7 it'll be the second in 20 years (since Dunblane)

frankie_baby said:
I'm not saying we dont ever have murders here, just that unlike the other side of the pond where multiple murders are an every day ocurance they are pretty rare here

Yeah I'm definitely just melding all the horrible things that are happening in the world here. Just wonder what this guy's motivation was now.

I like we don't have gun ownership normalised in this country. Feels so much safer because of that.

DeathyBoy · Jul 19, 2016

2916 needs to stop being shit

faridmon · Jul 19, 2016

Even here in UK? Bloody hell.

How the fuck did that person acquire a firearm anyway?

dealer- · Jul 19, 2016

WhateverItTakes said:
Still, we had Jo Cox's murder little more than a month ago? Are these kind of attacks increasing in frequency here or are the last few months taking a toll on my perspective...

There are now about 150 gun firearm/air gun offences a week in the UK compared to 460 around fifteen years ago. There has been a small rise in the last couple of years but nothing major.

Jezbollah · Jul 19, 2016

faridmon said:
Even here in UK? Bloody hell.

How the fuck did that person acquire a firearm anyway?

Likely in three ways:

1) a legitimate firearms license (ie shotgun). We have extremely tough legislation for that
2) a very old firearm (some speculate like what was used in the Jo Cox incident)
3) obtaining a firearm from the black market.

I would suggest that 1) is the most likely scenario.

Meadows · Jul 19, 2016

Dan27 said:
Likely in three ways:

1) a legitimate firearms license (ie shotgun). We have extremely tough legislation for that
2) a very old firearm (some speculate like what was used in the Jo Cox incident)
3) obtaining a firearm from the black market.

I would suggest that 1) is the most likely scenario.

Yeah a lot of gun crime in the UK is from WW2 weapons that find their way into gangs, although obviously this is becoming less of a problem over time due to them starting to age and break.

Lead · Jul 19, 2016

faridmon said:
Even here in UK? Bloody hell.

How the fuck did that person acquire a firearm anyway?

Well if you're a licensed hunter you can legally purchase say double barrel shotguns and bolt action rifles.

If you're not concerned with being lawful you can go on the darkweb and get just about anything shipped right to your door.

Polari · Jul 19, 2016

Sounds like it's a domestic. Sad but far from uncommon.

The Incarnation · Jul 19, 2016

Shooting UK, ahh Lincolnshire. Always Lincolnshire.

Carl · Jul 19, 2016

The Incarnation said:
Shooting UK, ahh Lincolnshire. Always Lincolnshire.

We're not that bad

Surpringly not Boston for once though

Wollan · Jul 19, 2016

Sounds like some love-triangle thing considering the shooter ended himself after taking out the two victims.

Carl · Jul 19, 2016

Victims apparently 2 women and a man

kmag · Jul 19, 2016

Dan27 said:
Yep, so as an FYI, this is the first "mass murder" incident in 6 years. Excluding 7/7 it'll be the second in 20 years (since Dunblane)

Thought the mass murder 'flag' was 4? The family killer who killed that Eastenders actress and her two kids didn't qualify as a mass murder did it?

iPaul93 · Jul 19, 2016

Another one?SMH.

spuckthew · Jul 19, 2016

Lead said:
Well if you're a licensed hunter you can legally purchase say double barrel shotguns and bolt action rifles.

You don't need to be a hunter to get a shotgun license. Sport shooting is a good enough reason (e.g. skeet / trap with clays). Also you can get pretty powerful air rifles without a license at all - although I believe that beyond a certain strength a license is of some kind is required.

SymbiantXenos · Jul 19, 2016

Every single day it's something different.

Rip to those that have lost their lives.

Lead · Jul 19, 2016

spuckthew said:
You don't need to be a hunter to get a shotgun license. Sport shooting is a good enough reason (e.g. skeet / trap with clays). Also you can get pretty powerful air rifles without a license at all - although I believe that beyond a certain strength a license is of some kind is required.

Sure, hunting license is just by far the most common in Europe and for that matter the UK.

Also you can't legally get powerful airguns in the UK without a license, 12ftlbs is the limit for rifles and 6ftlbs for pistols, that's not near powerful enough to harm humans unless you're pointing the muzzle directly into the ear or eye socket or something.

For comparison, what is considered the absolute weakest cartridge made for rifles, the .22 Flobert delivers 21ftlbs of energy, and .22 flobert used to be a pasttime people shot inside bars and inside ones homes and so on.

ReplacementPelican · Jul 19, 2016

The Incarnation said:
Shooting UK, ahh Lincolnshire. Always Lincolnshire.

Jo Cox was Yorkshire, what's this 'always Lincolnshire'? Nothing like this really ever happens in the UK so I don't have a frame of reference here.

Dot Matrix · Jul 19, 2016

kmag said:
Thought the mass murder 'flag' was 4? The family killer who killed that Eastenders actress and her two kids didn't qualify as a mass murder did it?

I thought it was more than 4. Didn't Raul Moat kill 4 people? And Dale Kregan? They weren't in the same short space of time though so maybe it means at once.

TarNaru33 · Jul 19, 2016

DeathyBoy said:
2916 needs to stop being shit

Holy shit, just got out of bed, did I really sleep for 900 years!?

But seriously, sounds like murder-suicide. All that can be done now is figuring out why.

holygeesus · Jul 19, 2016

Wollan said:
Sounds like some love-triangle thing considering the shooter ended himself after taking out the two victims.

Father killed his wife and daughter. Tragic.

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