-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Final Fantasy 15 Director Answers Tough Questions Following Delay
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
- Start date
NinjaCoachZ
Member
I can't see how anyone can really disrespect Tabata as a director. Criticizing the game itself, sure, but it's clear the dude himself is under a ton of pressure and has to make some very tough decisions, but he genuinely seems to be doing his best in spite of so many odds seemingly being stacked against him, and he really seems to be considering how the players feel in regards to every single one of those decisions. You can't knock the hustle on that guy.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Can see this killing his desire to work on tentpole games
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
I imagine once the team are really done with ffxv they'll stay away from the ip for awhile lol. Which means...no type game anytime soon(Tabata plz I need it)
Admiral Woofington
Member
My biggest issues with what I've seen of the game is the aliasing/dithering. Particularly the hair. I don't think I have ever been that bothered by hair that is meant to look good until this game.
I mean I'm always bothered by hair of course, what with Bioware and Bethesda not being able to do good looking hair if their life depended on it, but with FFXV the issue is that it looks like somebody dropped a bunch of corn flakes in their hair.
I mean I'm always bothered by hair of course, what with Bioware and Bethesda not being able to do good looking hair if their life depended on it, but with FFXV the issue is that it looks like somebody dropped a bunch of corn flakes in their hair.
Teletraan1
Banned
Perhaps if he got to start from scratch on a project instead of coming in with a bunch of baggage already there it would have been a smoother ride.
or it is possible...since everything has a d1 patch... that the game is in as rough shape story AND tech wise(as leaks claim) that not even Squaresoft could release it.
Enter bright idea:
"tell them we didn't WANT a day one patch we are pro gamer!!! we are delaying it to make no day 1 patch!! Not because the game is a snarled mess"
spoiler - game still releases with d1 patch.
Spin it square.
Enter bright idea:
"tell them we didn't WANT a day one patch we are pro gamer!!! we are delaying it to make no day 1 patch!! Not because the game is a snarled mess"
spoiler - game still releases with d1 patch.
Spin it square.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
I don't think this is uncommon. There's always something that can be tweaked to make balance better.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
ok
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Didn't take long
Unknown Soldier
Member
Final Fantasy has been chewing up and spitting directors out for awhile now.
I wonder if they will have anybody left who wants to direct FFXVI at this point.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Maybe it's been long enough for Ito to wanna helm it.
Not saying it's uncommon, just curious what kind condition the gameplay would have been in had it hit it's previous release.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
There's a preview thread somewhere. Font remember to many complaining about the combat at least not so far
Jarod McChicken
Member
Let's just highlight this for the inevitable hyberpole from the future Media Create thread, hehe.
family_guy
Member
I blame Xbox One.
Man.. the most prominent thing to me on FFXV's development is that it must be hell on the developers. Cannot image the extent of the crunch time. I wish the long development time meant people would not have to be working insane long hours. Squeenix should never give a release date for anything until they get better at managing them. Just say "when its done".
Man I am now bummed... time to cheer up by playing some more games :S.
Man I am now bummed... time to cheer up by playing some more games :S.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
Tabata really needs a huge break after XV to get his health back in good condition. The sheer dedication he has is amazing.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Im going to be so happy for Tabata when he actually gets to sleep for more than 3 hours at a time.
NoctisVsStar
Member
That's a problem generally for a lot of developers in Japan alongside manga and anime creators.
Japan got to fix that shit.
DPtheGod
Member
That would be amazing.
Spoiler:
Tetsuya Nomura announced in the future for directing FFXVI.
Since FF7R and KH3 will not be out yet, Nomura will hand direction of FF7R off to Toriyama, since he likes episodic / multi-part games. Nomura will delay KH3 further to build a foundation for FFXVI. FF7R will do well enough in sales due to it being a remake of fucking FF7, and Square will want a sequel to Dirge of Cerberus but in the form of a film. Nomura is announced as the director. He will delay FFXVI to build a foundation for the movie, and Square will ask Nomura "WTF where is KH3 noob" and then Nomura will delay the film and FFXVI, and work on KH3 only to find out that 20 Disney major films have released and now Disney wants them in KH3. So Nomura will delay KH3 to implement these new worlds. By this time, FF7R episode 3 will be out and the fans are beyond hyped for what comes next. Square will announce the film comes out in a year. Nomura, with no hope left, brings Tabata on board to direct FFXVI and completely replace him. He has no choice but to allow Nozue to direct the FF7 film, and dedicate all of his time to KH3 again...for only a few months. Square releases a new trailer for a FFIX remake, and Nomura is shown as the director, a project he had no idea he was taking. Shinji Hashimoto comes out on stage for every single gaming event ever held again and does his laughing meme before Nomura throws his hands up and quits SE. Kitase follows. They both rejoin with Sakaguchi. Mistwalker releases 20 games before FFXVI is given a release date. Mistwalker releases another 20 games before KH3 is delayed again. Mistwalker partners with Monolith Soft instead of the studio working on Bravely Default and makes the best JRPG ever. SE has no choice but to release FFXVI in its current state and everyone buys it, but also announces how much they hate it. SE hires former Ninja Gaiden creator Itagaki to design a new Dissidia game for consoles that reuinites him with Team Ninja and Tecmo, before Ninja Gaiden 4 is announced as the original development studio. Itagaki and Team Ninja thank Square. KH3 comes out 13 years later when the PS9 and XBwhatever are out. No one even has a PS4 anymore. The series is cancelled.
I don't know why I kept this going.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
I respect Tabata tremendously for how transparent he has been throughout his tenrue on the game. He seems to be the type of mind that will help right SE's ship.
I really hope that FFXV is that amazing experience we all so desperately want. Square Needs it, Tabata deserves it and the Game industry on a whole will be better for it.
You have to respect a game developer who is willing to make the hard decision to delay a game so close to it's release window. Even more so when you see the overall context of FFXV's development and how poor a delay on an already 10 year wait would be percieved. But Tabata is right. Quality is of paramount concern.
I really hope that FFXV is that amazing experience we all so desperately want. Square Needs it, Tabata deserves it and the Game industry on a whole will be better for it.
You have to respect a game developer who is willing to make the hard decision to delay a game so close to it's release window. Even more so when you see the overall context of FFXV's development and how poor a delay on an already 10 year wait would be percieved. But Tabata is right. Quality is of paramount concern.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Sigh poor oda Sensei.. plz put down the cigarettes!! Tabata stop it with the beers you got it hard enough
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Square Enix management should get credit too for allowing them to do it. That Sep 31st date was all theirs, now they are missing black friday and competing with Pokemon, COD, and Watch Dogs. Square Enix showed some testicular fortitude making this decision, other publishers probably would have just released it.
DPtheGod
Member
This. I only hope FFXV sales do not suffer now because of this. FFXV might wind up turning into a game people buy post-Christmas.
Undead Fantasy
Member
I fucking love him for this.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
They did. Honestly I think they have reached the point where they realize that quality will save them. Fuck the marketing. Fuck the branding. They have to be feeling scared, confident and just amazed to see the finish line after all this time.
No, he is contractually obligated to work on DLC packages and post release material and PR tours for the remainder of this year and beyond, the guy will continue into hell for a while, even long after the game has shipped
Tabata looking out for the right people. It's true that many of us prefer to play offline. Of course it's important to have the best possible version on disc. Absolutely. Perfect sense. You have to consider the experience of the people who will be playing it before the game launches. People like reviewers, Square Enix people, thieves, and others. Not everyone can play the game when it launches, and connect it to the internet. That's a new thing. Some of us are old school.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
The reason I have faith in this game, even when the world keeps telling me they want it to fail, is this man. I have never seen a director not bullshit as hard as this guy has, he keeps telling people how bad the brand has been. He says things no publisher would ever allow, even admitting when he took on the project it started as a mess. If the game turns out to disappoint I feel far less for square as I do for Tabata. It feels like the polar opposite situation from 13 where the director was so in love with his own work that he couldn't see what it meant to anyone outside of it.
Necron
Member
I think the same way. I hope for the best... but I also fear for the worst at this point (sadly). Either way, I dearly respect all the hard work by Tabata and the team at Square.
NoctisVsStar
Member
He said it was a mess when he first joined the project?
Tabata is just a cool dude. I have hated what he did to what i once considered Versus, but he really has made something out of a situation that really would seem insurmountable at some point.
JuanLatino
Member
You know they say that's a good thing. In real life, I mean. Means person is getting things done. You ever see Obama around? Nope. I can't remember the last time I saw him. Don't even know what he looks like anymore.
Maybe we should be worried someone saw Tabata enough to get an interview out of him. What's going on there? Is that a good thing? Shouldn't he be chained up in a dungeon somewhere with a computer in front of him? These are the actual tough questions.
HerroRygar
Member
I can't imagine what it feels like from a business perspective to see this boondoggle of a project actually coming close to completion. Agreed that Squenix deserves credit for being willing to delay the game to get a certain level of quality, that's a tough call. As long as the game does "better" than XIII (not necessarily sales, although that's an issue too), I think it will have been worth it. They really need Final Fantasy to be a premium brand for any of their lucrative mobile games to be as successful.
Fuck the haters, I'm hyped for this game.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Believe in Tabata
Data shows most people don't finish games.
Yeah, it will. But whats on the disk will still be in better shape than whats in the golden master right now. Im thinking that they know leaks are inevitable, and would rather take the financial hit of having to wait 2 more months of development to get whats in there in better shape than dealing with the negative impact of people uploading subpar footage on youtube or streaming on twitch.
Guess we'll see how much of a quality it'll be in two months.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
Holy crap, you still exist.
...And your sense of humor is still on point, lol.
Day one patches make perfect sense for practically every game. Read this excellent article by one of the guys from Vlambeer:
http://ramiismail.com/2016/08/patch-the-process/
I really hope that, prior to the rebranding, there was already an FFXV in production (there has to have been even since shortly after XIII launched and was made into a trilogy to milk the assets and engine right?) which can now of course be referred to as XVI.
The next FF needs a very smooth transition between announcement and launch. So far, apart from the obviously pretty early reveal, the VII remake has shown enough that we know more or less what to expect and can see that it is an actual game. It was still announced way too early though. With XVI, Square needs to do the full Fallout 4 reveal because they can't afford shit to be drawn out like the previous two (three?) mainline iterations.
The next FF needs a very smooth transition between announcement and launch. So far, apart from the obviously pretty early reveal, the VII remake has shown enough that we know more or less what to expect and can see that it is an actual game. It was still announced way too early though. With XVI, Square needs to do the full Fallout 4 reveal because they can't afford shit to be drawn out like the previous two (three?) mainline iterations.
Dragon1893
Member
I expect the game to receive a huge backlash and I will feel sorry for Tabata if it happens. The pressure must be insane.