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Nintendo: Wii cannot use Classic Controller for Cube games
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AndoCalrissian
Member
It's a big deal to me. I will not be plugging any Cube controllers into my Wii, because there should have never been a need to. I will keep my GCN hooked up.Link said:
jeremy1456
Junior Member
woxel1 said:
You press buttons and objects react on screen.
I mean dude, come on. :lol
Dragona Akehi
Retired
woxel1 said:
Much like DS with a GBA cart, the Wii will go into "GAMECUBE Mode" if a GC disk is inserted. It won't even be looking for the wireless signal.
Whereas the N64 emulation is a "Wii mode".
Link said:
The hardware goes into "Gamecube" mode when you startup a Gamecube game... i.e. the CPU/GPU basically put themselves at half multipliers and all the hardware input is routed to the Gamecube side panel. The reason why emulation is 100% perfect is because when you start a gamecube game, you're actually playing on a Gamecube. As such, the Gamecube doesn't know how to interface with the Wii's wireless bluetooth controller system or internal system memory either. Believe it or not, the Wii ISN'T JUST a Gamecube with waggle
(edit: beaten by the admin!)PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Weird I thought this was already known.
Tenacious-V
Thinks his PR is better than yours.
Not surprising, but it may confuse some unsuspecting casuals.
A Link to the Past
Banned
The classic controller is better designed, that's why.
God, I would be so steamed if Nintendo expected gamers to play NES games with the GCN's d-pad placement.
God, I would be so steamed if Nintendo expected gamers to play NES games with the GCN's d-pad placement.
AndoCalrissian
Member
I'm pretty sure they could have designed it in such a way that it would use the extra processing power to take the inputs from the classic controller and trick the hardware into believing they're from GCN. It's just stupid that I should need to use an old controller on a new system.Pud said:The hardware goes into "Gamecube" mode when you startup a Gamecube game... i.e. the CPU/GPU basically put themselves at half multipliers and all the hardware input is routed to the Gamecube side panel. The reason why emulation is 100% perfect is because when you start a gamecube game, you're actually playing on a Gamecube. As such, the Gamecube doesn't know how to interface with the Wii's wireless bluetooth controller system or internal system memory either. Believe it or not, the Wii ISN'T JUST a Gamecube with waggle
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Well, not surprising, but I wish I had thought of it when I sold my Cube... Guess I'll be getting a GCN controller along with my Wii.
Zenith said:
The d-pad is the focus on the classic controller (NES, SNES, Genesis, TG16) whereas the analog (N64) is not needed to be focused on as it has for the Gamecube.
Plus, there are inherent advantages, for us and Nintendo, to use/sell the classic controller.
1) Wireless (the remote hooks on the underside)
2) With the remote hooked on, the accelerometers can still be used (i.e. PS3 controller) AND it can still rumble thanks to the remote
3) Is styled in the same manner as the Wi
4) It will be sold for the next 4-5 years... you think anyone (incl Nintendo) will care about the Gamecube 4 years from now to keep stocking and manufacturing Wavebirds?
5) It's a SNES pad with analog - as great as the Gamecube controller is, SNES = universal appeal.
Zombie James
Banned
woxel1 said:
The second analog stick.
PlayStation Tree
Member
Thats really stupid. I never bought a cube, but figured I might catch a couple games I missed on the Wii. I don't really feel like buying a Wavebird just for "a couple" of games though.
Or can the Wavebird be used for VC games? Has this been confirmed?
Or can the Wavebird be used for VC games? Has this been confirmed?
AndoCalrissian said:
Why don't you be a system designer, then?
Seriously, it's 100% compatible BECAUSE it goes into Gamecube mode - it is, perfectly, a Gamecube. Design issues like the one you mentioned aren't that easy to overcome when you're looking for perfect emulation. Sure, the DS could use the ARM9 to assist those GBA titles that have framerate issues, but then it would bring its own set of compatibility problems. It just doesn't work the way you said it does. The only way what you said could happen properly, was if they were using software emulation (a la 360 - and look how that turned out).
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
AndoCalrissian said:
So having both systems hooked up is somehow better than only having one with two separate controllers? Are you just keeping your GCN up out of spite because becaue you don't wanna dirty your Wii with a GCN controller? Isn't that a little strange?
And Im fairly certain that doing that would have somehow ended up screwing up some GameCube game somewhere along the way. Besides the fact that the Classic Controller lacks some of the functionality (i.e., shoulder button click) that the GameCube controller has.AndoCalrissian said:
PlayStation Tree said:
*sigh*
Games made for the Wii are ALLOWED to use the Gamecube controller if they'd like, because the Wii can interface with both hardware inputs. For instance, Metal Slug has the option of using the Gamecube controller. NEW VC games are also allowed to use the Gamecube controller. The old ones? I don't have an answer for you, but I highly doubt it. The classic controller, with its D-PAD focus, is MUCH better to use for old VC games anyway.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Not that big of a deal to me, as I already have two GC controllers.
Btw, I LOVE the classic controller look, but really wished they had included L1/L2 and R1/R2 that Sony made standard. Why just the one Z?
Oh well. I'm not buying this to play old GC games.
Btw, I LOVE the classic controller look, but really wished they had included L1/L2 and R1/R2 that Sony made standard. Why just the one Z?
Oh well. I'm not buying this to play old GC games.
PlayStation Tree
Member
Pud said:
Why the fvck did you respond then?
Target said:
Thank you.
Pud said:Why don't you be a system designer, then?
Seriously, it's 100% compatible BECAUSE it goes into Gamecube mode - it is, perfectly, a Gamecube. Design issues like the one you mentioned aren't that easy to overcome when you're looking for perfect emulation. Sure, the DS could use the ARM9 to assist those GBA titles that have framerate issues, but then it would bring its own set of compatibility problems. It just doesn't work the way you said it does. The only way what you said could happen properly, was if they were using software emulation (a la 360 - and look how that turned out).
At this point, the PS3's PS2 BC is supposedly done via an included PS2 chipset (which is why there are no graphical enhancements). But somehow, they were able to "wrap" it up in such a way as to allow Bluetooth/wireless with the Sixaxis. I imagine they COULD have done something similar with the Wii.
wonderfuldays
Member
It is because CC's L/R button and GC controller's L/R button are different.
AndoCalrissian
Member
What does it matter to you? I'm doing it out of spite. It's a stupid, short-sighted decision.GreenGlowingGoo said:
There are two Z buttons on the Classic Controller.PantherLotus said:Not that big of a deal to me, as I already have two GC controllers.
Btw, I LOVE the classic controller look, but really wished they had included L1/L2 and R1/R2 that Sony made standard. Why just the one Z?
Oh well. I'm not buying this to play old GC games.
Cauliflower of Love
Banned
Nintendo, you silly goose!