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I'm concerned for mental health GAF

DSN2K

Member
The thread was an outlet for many who came on daily, weekly and monthly. That outlet is now completely gone. Those people might be feeling a fare bit lost today. :/
 

gossi

Member
The thread was an outlet for many who came on daily, weekly and monthly. That outlet is now completely gone. Those people might be feeling a fare bit lost today. :/

They're working to bring the non-gaming forums back - it's mentioned in the "State of NeoGAF" post. The forums and posts haven't been deleted, they've just hidden them.
 

Stuart444

Member
They're working to bring the non-gaming forums back - it's mentioned in the "State of NeoGAF" post. The forums and posts haven't been deleted, they've just hidden them.

Yes but not for a few weeks. (probably)

The Op is saying he's worried about people who posted there not having an outlet like that for several or more weeks.
 

haikira

Member
Yeah, I think we should be allowed to keep a thread open for this community on the gaming side. Surely an exception could be made for this one case, as it's an important community.

It's been a massive help for me in the past, and I'd love to see it kept open until the other side is back up and going.
 

gossi

Member
Yes but not for a few weeks. (probably)

The Op is saying he's worried about people who posted there not having an outlet like that for several or more weeks.

The State of NeoGAF doesn't contain the phrase "weeks".

I mean, if people have serious mental health issues and need a community, I'd google "Mental Health community".
 

Yaari

Member
I hope they bring it back. Although I think its too late for Evilore. You guys won't be able to help him.
 

Betty

Banned
I think there's a discord up for them but you could create another discord just in case until OT comes back.
 

Ivellios

Member
The State of NeoGAF doesn't contain the phrase "weeks".

I mean, if people have serious mental health issues and need a community, I'd google "Mental Health community".

It is not like that though, the people posting there felt confortable sharing their experiencies and helped each other.

Its not so simple just googling a alternative like that.
 

jobrro

Member
The State of NeoGAF doesn't contain the phrase "weeks".

I mean, if people have serious mental health issues and need a community, I'd google "Mental Health community".

It could be days or it could be weeks. At the moment I am sure policing gaming and gaming community is more than enough for the current mods with all the account suicides going on.

I am sure Tyler is looking for more mods and when there is enough OT will come back, even if it is a shell of what it was.
 

Usobuko

Banned
Evilore should prioritise this over the poor aftermath approach of his trouble. At least an exception.

Lives matter.
 
Evilore should prioritise this over the poor aftermath approach of his trouble. At least an exception.

Lives matter.

Unfortunately, EviLore tried to excuse himself by claiming the woman who accused him is mentally ill and thus her account should be dismissed. He doesn't give a shit about this.
 

wandering

Banned
I mod a GAF discord that has a mental health channel. We’re not the official mental health discord but feel free to pm me if you might be interested.
 
if people have serious mental health issues and need a community, I'd google "Mental Health community".

No truer words have been said (typed) on this forum. If a persons online persona is that important to them then stay away from forums where you can be criticized or (Moderated by the people in Charge.) This website belongs to a certain person, if people have issues with it then do the obvious and don't frequent the site.
 
Just remember if your mental health issues (anxiety or depression, for example) are exacerbated by the current political climate or social issues you're SOL.
 

Odie_Esty

Member
Honestly you really shouldn't rely on a forum for mental health issues. At best it works as a crutch and at worse it gives a false sense of progress they're not truly making. If these people really made a connection they can now make plans to meet up outside of the forums but frankly I doubt it was more than a stop gap. The only real progress comes from looking inward and you need someone trained to help you do that.
 
They're working to bring the non-gaming forums back - it's mentioned in the "State of NeoGAF" post. The forums and posts haven't been deleted, they've just hidden them.

It actually sounds quite sensible. I was disappointed OT was down completely but it makes sense to keep all the non political stuff about OT like mental health, movies and TV, new phones etc
 

Yaari

Member
Unfortunately, EviLore tried to excuse himself by claiming the woman who accused him is mentally ill and thus her account should be dismissed. He doesn't give a shit about this.

Which makes it even more ridiculous people are actually willing to continue using this shit. Hellooo.. he made a fucking joke out of mental illness just so he could blame his victim. And now you want to continue contributing to his product?

I have issues of my own but FUCK that. Fuck you Evilore. The motherfucker ruined some lives with his revenge porn/sexual assault bullshit. Creepy motherfucker.

And yes, the only reason OT is gone is because it makes it easier to moderate for the few spineless fucks he still managed to convince to help him out voluntarily. It'll be back once things are quiet again. But are you really okay with the fact that you are helping to increase the value of his property?
 

DKehoe

Member
Honestly you really shouldn't rely on a forum for mental health issues. At best it works as a crutch and at worse it gives a false sense of progress they're not truly making. If these people really made a connection they can now make plans to meet up outside of the forums but frankly I doubt it was more than a stop gap. The only real progress comes from looking inward and you need someone trained to help you do that.

Wow, this is awful.
 
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Deleted member 325805

Unconfirmed Member
Honestly you really shouldn't rely on a forum for mental health issues. At best it works as a crutch and at worse it gives a false sense of progress they're not truly making. If these people really made a connection they can now make plans to meet up outside of the forums but frankly I doubt it was more than a stop gap. The only real progress comes from looking inward and you need someone trained to help you do that.

Please don't talk shit on subjects you have no experience with.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Honestly you really shouldn't rely on a forum for mental health issues. At best it works as a crutch and at worse it gives a false sense of progress they're not truly making. If these people really made a connection they can now make plans to meet up outside of the forums but frankly I doubt it was more than a stop gap. The only real progress comes from looking inward and you need someone trained to help you do that.

You should rely on whatever resources give you real help with your mental illness and forums are a perfectly valid way to do that. This post paints a picture that is not true what-so-ever for a lot of people, especially in this age of social media and inter connectedness.
 

DJwest

Member
Which makes it even more ridiculous people are actually willing to continue using this shit. Hellooo.. he made a fucking joke out of mental illness just so he could blame his victim. And now you want to continue contributing to his product?

I have issues of my own but FUCK that. Fuck you Evilore. The motherfucker ruined some lives with his revenge porn/sexual assault bullshit. Creepy motherfucker.

And yes, the only reason OT is gone is because it makes it easier to moderate for the few spineless fucks he still managed to convince to help him out voluntarily. It'll be back once things are quiet again. But are you really okay with the fact that you are helping to increase the value of his property?
Then leave? What are you still doing here?
 
Why would you assume that the majority of posters in that thread don't view it as a support resource in addition to professional help?

Like psychiatrists are great but you can't talk to them all the time.
 

Futureman

Member
It actually sounds quite sensible. I was disappointed OT was down completely but it makes sense to keep all the non political stuff about OT like mental health, movies and TV, new phones etc

I don't understand how that's even possible. Political and social issues are completely tied up with pretty much any topic that was posted on the OT side. How can you not talk about social issues when the Harvey Weinstein stuff came out? How can you keep politics out of a hurricane when Trump refuses support (PR), etc?
 

TannerDemoz

Member
Honestly you really shouldn't rely on a forum for mental health issues. At best it works as a crutch and at worse it gives a false sense of progress they're not truly making. If these people really made a connection they can now make plans to meet up outside of the forums but frankly I doubt it was more than a stop gap. The only real progress comes from looking inward and you need someone trained to help you do that.

Agree and disagree with this but you shouldn't be getting called out for it. Fair play if threads can help people but I absolutely agree that they're not a solution and could actually hinder progression.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Agree and disagree with this but you shouldn't be getting called out for it. Fair play if threads can help people but I absolutely agree that they're not a solution and could actually hinder progression.

Most people with mental health issues use threads like that as a supportive measure, not the cure all and just making some blanket statement about getting serious help is in fact, not very helpful. Quite the opposite really.
 
Agree and disagree with this but you shouldn't be getting called out for it. Fair play if threads can help people but I absolutely agree that they're not a solution and could actually hinder progression.

Duck do you know? You a physiatrist? You can judge on a case to case basis how the people who use the thread are "hindered" by it?
 

Yaari

Member
Then leave? What are you still doing here?

I figured that as I am on my way out, the least I could do is try to make people do some self-reflecting. You are willingly contributing to the creation of one sick fuck that does things that makes people end up in a mental health thread, looking for help, to begin with.

I hope people find a place to continue finding help for their problems and I honestly believe that forums are perfectly fine for it. This one though? Jesus. That's disappointing.
 

Sony

Nintendo
Go get professional help

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This is about moving a single thread over to try and achieve a little normalcy for some of our most vulnerable members. I'm sure people have strong arguments about how the mentally ill can tough it out and all that bullshit... but who cares, this is a small, short term gesture, it's the least they can do.
 

PeterGAF

Banned
Go get professional help
If only it was a easy as that. Shit ain’t free. Having a friend (or just a person on the internet) to talk to, however, is free. And helpful.

Honestly you really shouldn't rely on a forum for mental health issues. At best it works as a crutch and at worse it gives a false sense of progress they're not truly making. If these people really made a connection they can now make plans to meet up outside of the forums but frankly I doubt it was more than a stop gap. The only real progress comes from looking inward and you need someone trained to help you do that.
And you shouldn’t tell people how to handle things that you clearly don’t understand.
 

TannerDemoz

Member
Duck do you know? You a physiatrist? You can judge on a case to case basis how the people who use the thread are "hindered" by it?

No, but I can speak from personal experience of getting through it and suffering from it in and out that talking to strangers online about it isn't the solution.
 

PeterGAF

Banned
No, but I can speak from personal experience of getting through it and suffering from it in and out that talking to strangers online about it isn't the solution.
For you maybe but not everyone is the same and I’m sure that thread helped a lot of people out. It wouldn’t have been active at all if it didn’t.

Your personal experience is not representative of everyone else struggling with mental health and if you think otherwise you are ignorant.
 

Galang

Banned
I wouldn’t dismiss the use of online methods. It was pretty much that alone that helped me conquer suicide. I had tried professional help before, but that didnt do much for me honestly. I found being around like-minded people online helped a lot and it’s what allowed me to put my negative energy towards creative endeavours... which in turn gave me hope for the future. Everyone copes differently and for some people being able to vent anonymously with real people who struggled is enough. Others require professional help and others both. Every little bit helps in my experience. There’s been posts I’ve read on gaf that have had a big positive impact on my life and I don’t think that should be lost. The right post at the right time can be just what someone needs.

Or we could just talk about videogames...

So you’re saying ignore people in need because it doesn’t directly affect you and your entertainment? You don’t have to participate, but mental health isn’t a small issue. Everyone experiences it everywhere
 

TannerDemoz

Member
For you maybe but not everyone is the same and I’m sure that thread helped a lot of people out. It wouldn’t have been active at all if it didn’t.

Yeah exactly. You're right and I'm sure it has helped people out.

To be honest I don't know why I'm chiming in, but it's something I feel strongly about. I just think the idea that people might be starting to suddenly crumble due to the loss of an online forum reiterates the idea that more people need to find other ways of battling depression rather than online. I'm at risk of derailing the thread though so I'm out!
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
No, but I can speak from personal experience of getting through it and suffering from it in and out that talking to strangers online about it isn't the solution.

The people who gave me professional help in my own life in the real world, not a message board, were strangers too when I came to them for help. What are you getting at?
 

Anung

Un Rama
Yeah exactly. You're right and I'm sure it has helped people out.

To be honest I don't know why I'm chiming in, but it's something I feel strongly about. I just think the idea that people might be starting to suddenly crumble due to the loss of an online forum reiterates the idea that more people need to find other ways of battling depression rather than online. I'm at risk of derailing the thread though so I'm out!

Yeah well when waiting lists in the UK have me waiting 8 odd months to get therapy or CBT I'll take what support networks I can get.
 

ZeoVGM

Banned
Yeah exactly. You're right and I'm sure it has helped people out.

To be honest I don't know why I'm chiming in, but it's something I feel strongly about. I just think the idea that people might be starting to suddenly crumble due to the loss of an online forum reiterates the idea that more people need to find other ways of battling depression rather than online. I'm at risk of derailing the thread though so I'm out!

You quite simply don't understand what you're taking about.
 

Yaari

Member
Plenty of strangers that made a move to professionals that can spread their knowledge through a forum. Sometimes the jump to talking to a person about your problems is much harder to make than a random person on the internet.

You don't need to be a professional to offer support to someone. Sometimes issues aren't even that complicated and people just need someone to listen to.

Godbless you all and I hope you will think about what I said.
 

Clockwork

Member
So you’re saying ignore people in need because it doesn’t directly affect you and your entertainment? You don’t have to participate, but mental health isn’t a small issue. Everyone experiences it everywhere

Maybe read the sticky.

The future of NeoGAF will be a return to what many of us have come here for, a place where we can gather together and enjoy our shared hobby of video games.
 
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