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PAL Charts - Week 43, 2017 [READ INTRO, please]

PantsuJo

Member
Regarding PAL Charts threads
Hi, I'm the new creator of these threads, with the approval of Bruno.
I know very well it won't be easy to continue the great job Bruno did for NeoGAF but I'll do my best to inform GAF about sales in EU region!
The template used for the thread it's similar to the Bruno ones, in order to maintain a "continuity" with his ideas.
It's a great honour to continue the PAL threads history. Sorry in advance for any error (just quote it and I will fix it asap) and thank you so much for your understanding. ^__^

Note: The missing data for the other EU countries will be posted as soon as they are published.


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United Kingdom:

From GFK Chart Track:
‘Assassin’s Creed Origins’ begins life at No1 just like its predecessor ‘Assassin’s Creed Syndicate’ two years ago.

Launch sales units are almost level with Syndicate, but surpass it in terms of revenue, boosted by the more expensive ‘Gold’ and ‘Gods’ editions. At No2 ‘Super Mario Odyssey’ becomes the biggest ever launch for a Switch title, comfortably beating ‘Zelda: Breath of the Wild’. Not only that, it is also considerably bigger than any Wii U title’s debut, recording Nintendo’s 6th biggest launch ever. ‘FIFA 18’ (-11%) is relegated to No3, but maintains a healthy lead over the only other new title to enter the All Formats Top 10 this week; ‘Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus’ debuting at No4. Last week’s No1 ‘Gran Turismo: Sport’ (-61%) shifts down to No5 in front of a retailer promoted ‘Gran Theft Auto V’ (+129%) at No6 and ‘Destiny 2’ at No7, sales up 117% with help from the new PC version released on Tuesday. The only other new title to make it in to the Top 40 this week is Ubisoft’s ‘Just Dance 2018’ at No23, with the old Nintendo Wii still its lead format despite it also making an appearance on Nintendo Switch.

Week 43, 2017 - All Formats (Units)
01 (NE) ASSASSIN'S CREED ORIGINS
02 (NE) SUPER MARIO ODYSSEY
03 (03) FIFA 18
04 (NE) WOLFENSTEIN II: THE NEW COLOSSUS
05 (01) GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
06 (08) GRAND THEFT AUTO V
07 (07) DESTINY 2
08 (03) SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
09 (05) MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR MONOLITH
10 (04) WWE 2K18
11 (15) MARIO KART 8 DELUXE
12 (09) FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
13 (13) LEGO WORLDS
14 (16) THE EVIL WITHIN 2
15 (12) FORZA HORIZON 3
16 (10) CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
17 (11) THE LEGO NINJAGO MOVIE VIDEOGAME
18 (20) MARIO + RABBIDS KINGDOM BATTLE
19 (22) THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: BREATH OF THE WILD
20 (14) RESIDENT EVIL 7: BIOHAZARD
21 (30) OVERWATCH: GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION
22 (18) FALLOUT 4
23 (NE) JUST DANCE 2018
24 (17) LEGO CITY UNDERCOVER
25 (21) TOM CLANCY'S RAINBOW 6: SIEGE
26 (26) F1 2017
27 (19) NBA 2K18
28 (29) MINECRAFT: PLAYSTATION EDITION
29 (31) DOOM
30 (23) UNCHARTED: THE LOST LEGACY
31 (24) DISHONORED 2
32 (32) MINECRAFT: XBOX EDITION
33 (35) CALL OF DUTY: INFINITE WARFARE
34 (-) 1-2 SWITCH NINTENDO
35 (NE) PLAYSTATION VR WORLDS
36 (40) MIITOPIA
37 (36) ARK: SURVIVAL EVOLVED
38 (39) SPLATOON 2
39 (-) DIRT 4
40 (-) NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2

Week 43, 2017 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (NE) NSW SUPER MARIO ODYSSEY
02 (NE) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED ORIGINS
03 (NE) XBO ASSASSIN'S CREED ORIGINS
04 (02) PS4 FIFA 18
05 (01) PS4 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
06 (05) XBO FIFA 18
07 (NE) PS4 WOLFENSTEIN II: THE NEW COLOSSUS
08 (NE) XBO WOLFENSTEIN II: THE NEW COLOSSUS
09 (03) PS4 SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
10 (17) PS4 GRAND THEFT AUTO V
11 (14) NSW MARIO KART 8 DELUXE
12 (10) XBO FORZA MOTORSPORT 7
13 (04) PS4 WWE 2K18
14 (08) PS4 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
15 (09) XBO MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR
16 (23) XBO GRAND THEFT AUTO V
17 (13) XBO FORZA HORIZON 3
18 (12) PS4 CRASH BANDICOOT N.SANE TRILOGY
19 (-) PC DESTINY 2
20 (15) PS4 DESTINY 2
21 (07) XBO SOUTH PARK: THE FRACTURED BUT WHOLE
22 (06) XBO WWE 2K18
23 (19) NSW MARIO + RABBIDS KINGDOM BATTLE
24 (11) PS4 THE EVIL WITHIN 2
25 (21) NSW THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: BREATH OF THE WILD
26 (22) XBO DESTINY 2
27 (18) PS4 RESIDENT EVIL 7: BIOHAZARD
28 (25) NSW LEGO WORLDS
29 (30) PS4 MINECRAFT: PLAYSTATION EDITION
30 (20) PS4 UNCHARTED: THE LOST LEGACY
31 (-) NSW 1-2 SWITCH
32 (-) PS4 PLAYSTATION VR WORLDS
33 (35) 3DS MIITOPIA
34 (26) PS4 FALLOUT 4
35 (34) NSW SPLATOON 2
36 (24) PS4 THE LEGO NINJAGO MOVIE VIDEOGAME
37 (-) XBO OVERWATCH: GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION
38 (-) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2
39 (32) XBO MINECRAFT: XBOX EDITION
40 (-) 3DS MARIO KART 7



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France:
Week 42, 2017 - Individual Formats (Value)
01 (NE) PS4 GRAN TURISMO: SPORT
02 (04) FIFA 18
03 (NE) GRAN TURISMO: SPORT (Game+DS4 bundle)
04 (NE) GRAN TURISMO: SPORT (Limited Edition)
05 (02) PS4 MIDDLE-EARTH: SHADOW OF WAR



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Germany:
October 2017 - All Formats (Units)
//Waiting for new Data...


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Italy:
Week 42, 2017 - Individual Console (Units)
01 (NE) Gran Turismo Sport
02 (01) Fifa 18
03 (NE) WWE 2K18
04 (NE) Gran Turismo Sport Steelbook Edition
05 (08) GTA V Grand Theft Auto


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Switzerland:
Week 43, 2017 - All Formats (Units)
01 (NE) Assassin's Creed Origins
02 (NE) Super Mario Odyssey
03 (02) FIFA 18
04 (NE) Wolfenstein II The New Colossus
05 (01) Gran Turismo Sport


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Australia:
Week 43, 2017 - All Formats (Units)
01 (NE) Assassin's Creed Origins
02 (NE) Super Mario Odyssey
03 (-) Destiny 2
04 (NE) Wolfenstein II The New Colossus
05 (02) Gran Turismo Sport



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New Zealand:
Week 43, 2017 - All Formats (Units)
01 (NE) Assassin's Creed Origins
02 (NE) Super Mario Odyssey
03 (03) FIFA 18
04 (04) NBA 2K18
05 (NE) Wolfenstein II The New Colossus



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Spain:
October 2017 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (01) FIFA 18
02 (NE) Super Mario Odyssey
03 (NE) Assassin's Creed Origins (Limited Ed. included)
04 (-) Gran Turismo Sport Limited Edition
05 (-) Middle-Earth: Shadow of War (Limited Ed. included)


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Greece:
September 2017 - Individual Formats (Units)
//Waiting for new Data

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Ireland:

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Belgium:

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Netherlands:

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Sweden:

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Finland:

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Denmark:

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Norway:http://angi-nordic.com/nsm/nsm/topplister/

Note: These charts are no longer updated.

PAL Charts - Week 39, 2017
PAL Charts - Week 40, 2017
PAL Charts - Week 41, 2017
PAL Charts - Week 42, 2017
 

Not Drake

Member
Syndicate splits from 2015:
61 - PS4
39 - X1

Origins splits
60 - PS4
40 - X1

I guess the deal worked, because it stopped the split from being even more skewed towards PS4 version, but damn. It's really hard for MS to make it count.
 
Apparently 45% of UK sales are now digital so its getting harder and harder to rely on charts such as these to get an accurate picture of sales.

Edit: sorry for double post - in Mexico and internet is a bit crap.
 

Chris1

Member
Apparently 45% of UK sales are now digital so its getting harder and harder to rely on charts such as these to get an accurate picture of sales.

Edit: sorry for double post - in Mexico and internet is a bit crap.

UK phys charts don't really show the full picture as apparently 45% of UK sales are now digital.
Where are you getting that 45% figure from?

Edit oh I see 30-45%. Holy shit.
 

PantsuJo

Member
Where are you getting that 45% figure from?

Edit oh I see 30-45%. Holy shit.

This is indeed true. When we'll have official UK digital data we'll publish here.

For example, I hope that Wolfenstein 2 sold a lot more on digital, at least.
 

Wiped89

Member
Apparently 45% of UK sales are now digital so its getting harder and harder to rely on charts such as these to get an accurate picture of sales.

Edit: sorry for double post - in Mexico and internet is a bit crap.

But why would that stop a chart being accurate in terms of positions?

If we assume that 45% is spread evenly across the chart, then the digital sales don't change the chart positions. AC would still be number 1, Fifa still number 3 etc. It's not like we have raw numbers anyway.

The charts were always based on a sample of sales and extrapolated outwards. They never counted every sale. Not even close.
 
But why would that stop a chart being accurate in terms of positions?

If we assume that 45% is spread evenly across the chart, then the digital sales don't change the chart positions. AC would still be number 1, Fifa still number 3 etc. It's not like we have raw numbers anyway.

The charts were always based on a sample of sales and extrapolated outwards. They never counted every sale. Not even close.

Because numbers paint a better picture and if you can only get half of the picture from these charts, their usefulness decreases.
 

Wiped89

Member
Because numbers paint a better picture and if you can only get half of the picture from these charts, their usefulness decreases.

But we never even had half the picture to begin with

The way the charts work is a bit like election polling. You get data from a few shops and extrapolate that to represent the whole industry. For example 1,000 sales of a game in a sample of 10,000 would represent 10% of the population, or 7 million sales (very rough example)

As long as people are buying the same games digital as they are physical, the chart should still be representative of the UK as a whole.
 
But we never even had half the picture to begin with

The way the charts work is a bit like election polling. You get data from a few shops and extrapolate that to represent the whole industry. For example 1,000 sales of a game in a sample of 10,000 would represent 10% of the population, or 7 million sales (very rough example)

As long as people are buying the same games digital as they are physical, the chart should still be representative of the UK as a whole.

I understand that, but when you're getting misleading statements like "Wolfenstein launched with 70% of the first games sales" because 45% of sales are digital, it makes the numbers accompanying the charts less meaningful than was previously the case.
 

Wiped89

Member
I understand that, but when you're getting misleading statements like "Wolfenstein launched with 70% of the first games sales" because 45% of sales are digital, it makes the numbers accompanying the charts less meaningful than was previously the case.

Indeed, that is true, and to be honest you would think publishers would come out and announce the level of digital sales, if only to bat away damaging headlines like 'Wolfenstein sales collapse' etc

The point of the charts is (and I guess always was) figuring out the sales of games relative to one another. For example, Assassin's Creed outsold Mario on their launch weeks. This still holds true if you add 45% to both their totals. What it shouldn't be used for is gauging the level of raw number sales. It was never accurate for that in the first place.
 
But we never even had half the picture to begin with

The way the charts work is a bit like election polling. You get data from a few shops and extrapolate that to represent the whole industry. For example 1,000 sales of a game in a sample of 10,000 would represent 10% of the population, or 7 million sales (very rough example)

As long as people are buying the same games digital as they are physical, the chart should still be representative of the UK as a whole.

I'm also not totally convinced that the charts work as you say. Chart track get their numbers directly from retailers and apparently 90+% of physical sales through those channels are accurately reflected.
 

Wiped89

Member
I'm also not totally convinced that the charts work as you say. Chart track get their numbers directly from retailers and apparently 90+% of physical sales through those channels are accurately reflected.

It's all based on representative sampling. Retailers like GAME, Tesco and Argos do not count up every copy sold at every one of hundreds of stores nationwide within a few days and send it all to Chart Track.

They have a select few stores which they collect data from and extrapolate that for a representative sample.
 

Chris1

Member
It's all based on representative sampling. Retailers like GAME, Tesco and Argos do not count up every copy sold at every one of hundreds of stores nationwide within a few days and send it all to Chart Track.

They have a select few stores which they collect data from and extrapolate that for a representative sample.
They wouldn't be counting it anyway. It'll all be done through computers and updated automatically every time a copy is sold per store and total

But I'm not sure how chart track gets their information
 
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