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Forbes interview with George Harrison of NoA
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CrushDance
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.Georgy said:
What he just said right here, scares me to death. I love Zelda, and I have been waiting for a very long time for Nintendo to start a new IP with similar aspects. My thinking all along has been as long as I got my Zelda, Mario, and Metroid, everything else is cake. If they start f*cking with this, I will quit gaming.
Nexus Zero
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Well **** you too, George.
beef3483 said:
We've got Zelda, why do you want them to do a similar game? I'd prefer they tried something different.
What he said seems to apply more to a Pikmin as opposed to Wii Fit or Brain Training as he said they're increasing their fictional stories. I don't see those two being fictional story based games.
CrushDance
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Well they do have online games and such. Just not a streamlined simple way to put it together yet.X26 said:
CrushDance
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medrew said:
In regards to the online gaming question, he basically said "Our audience is more casual than hardcore now and we aren't focusing on making an online that caters to the hardcore since casual gamers play together more face to face."
It's odd that they're making Mario Kart online and yet SSBB gets the shaft. Did they think only hardcore players will want to play online with SSBB and Mario Kart will be more widely popular? I don't like what Reggie said about newcomers being able to easily keep up with an expert.
It's odd that they're making Mario Kart online and yet SSBB gets the shaft. Did they think only hardcore players will want to play online with SSBB and Mario Kart will be more widely popular? I don't like what Reggie said about newcomers being able to easily keep up with an expert.
CrushDance
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I'm not talking about her breasts.medrew said:
The Bookerman
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What they are saying basically to their former user base: "Fucck off, we're making games for old folks and soccer moms."
That's what I get from that.
That's what I get from that.
X26 said:
What are you talking about? Shock: Nintendo will not make gory online FPS blastfests?
Nintendo have their own style with games, it is not a shocker that they does do that style.
He said they are focusing on offline multiple and online games are in the works.
There are third parties to produce fps deathmatch spectaculars.
PkunkFury
Member
X26 said:
how many Nintendo fans are talking up Wii online? We pretty much know what to expect. Most of us are doubting Brawl will be online
As for this interview, it's really on the mark. You can tell the guy asking the questions is an actual gamer, and not just a casual business journo
No, it's not. have you ever programmed an onilne game?
CrushDance
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Are you that blind? Is that what you think all those other games out there offer? Look at the amount of games on 360 and PS3 that are not FPS.Vagabundo said:
And g...go play metroids! And shootem people pls!
norinrad21
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Wii sports 2 will be online.
Uremifasolasiututut
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argon said:
What in the hell does that have to do with the question that was asked?
I really wish there was a rule where an interviewer can just pop a guy in the face when they spew that kind of sidewinding doublespeak.
Jesus christ I hate PR guys.
CrushDance said:
Not what I was responding too.
With the limited information in X25s quote I had to guess what he was alluding too.
And I am currently happy to have online where it fits, I am playing strikers online.
I like the fact that nintendo are focusing on offline multiplayer, they others arnt and in my opinion will pay dearly for it in market share.
PkunkFury
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Uremifasolasiututut said:
WTF? It's an honest answer. The Wii does not have something that competes with Halo. And Nintendo themselves aren't bringing anything that will. It was an honest answer, and well spun to illustrate why Nintendo isn't offering this.
George harrison is one of the best in PR, he's very up front. I'll be sad to see him go. This interview has no BS. He could of said "Well we have Mario Strikers from our million game selling Mario Sprts franchise already out in Europe!" This is the Jack Tretton on CNBC style response that we don't need
the question:
Why is it taking so long for Nintendo to make its online game-play system as strong as Sony's or Microsoft's? People want to play Wii Sports with friends and strangers across the world.
the answer:
People's ideas of playing online hinges on existing gamers. It means playing Halo in a massively multi-player way. The online experience doesn't have to be as narrow as that.
("as strong as Sony's or Microsoft's" is a construct based around what Sony and Microsoft have released as online games, a construct we don't quite agree with)
If what you want is an aggressive game you can play online with your friends, maybe the Wii isn't the best fit for that.
(No, we are not offering those types of games, look on another system)
In our attitude there are a lot more people in our new expanded audience than there are traditional gamers. We think there's a social aspect in real life, in your living room for Wii sports.
(Why aren't we offering those games? Because unlike what you've stated, we found our consumer base prefers a focus on social gaming in the home)
That said, we do have online games coming.
(However, we are bringing some online games in the future, but based on my previous comments, expect them to go in different directions than the competitiors)
It's cut and ****ing dry
Listening to US Nintendo execs to have information about Nintendo strategy?
LOL
Anyway like many people, bought a Wii to get the Nintendo exclusives (missed them A LOT during the gamecube era) and the rest is all bonus. Seeing the install base so far I think third parties will devellop a lot on Wii. Now if Nintendo can draw soccer moms and others to videogame, that's good for the industry.
LOL
Anyway like many people, bought a Wii to get the Nintendo exclusives (missed them A LOT during the gamecube era) and the rest is all bonus. Seeing the install base so far I think third parties will devellop a lot on Wii. Now if Nintendo can draw soccer moms and others to videogame, that's good for the industry.
Uremifasolasiututut
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PkunkFury said:
Well then I must be reading into this question incorrectly, as it sounded more like a technical question - ie: Why aren't there more online Nintendo Wii titles/isn't there a more established online service (feature wise)? George didn't really address that, other than a passing allusion to it in the last sentence.
PkunkFury
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Uremifasolasiututut said:
good point, but he's still basically giving the same answer. Nintendo aren't setting up a system similar to what the competitors are offering, because they have found most of their audience isn't looking for that. He comes right out and suggests to by the another system if that's what you are looking for.
Seems more like he misunderstood the question if that is indeed what it's about, but I bet the answer would've been the same
PkunkFury
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Oblivion said:
Smash brothers is a fast, four player fighter that uses levels with multiple platforms and items. Would you like to do prediction for a game like that? There's much more variability in the game than in any other fighter currently online, and they would still want to get the timing as good as the timing in hardcore fighters. Very few people are satisfied with traditional fighting games online at the moment. Smash just complicates things further. At least I'm sure you can agree that making Mariokart or any other racer online is a good 10 times easier. Especially for a company who has little experience with online gaming, like Nintendo.
It's certainly possible, but you can bet that Nintendo also wants it to work well if they're going to do it. My point is not that Smash bros online couldn't or shouldn't be done. Hell I will be pissed if it's not online since I love the game. My point is that there's a reason mario Kart would be put online instead that does not involve Nintendo favoring casual games
Sakurai specifically stated that he would try to make it online, and it might have to be in another way back when the game was announced. Smash may still be online, it hasn't been denied either, and they have 97 updates and TGS still to come. But I'm sure if it is online it will be nuetered
Uremifasolasiututut
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PkunkFury said:
But has their audience ever had it? How do they know that their audience doesn't want it if they have never had it? Personally, I want it. I'm sure many others do.
I don't understand why they don't want to give the customer the choice. If it's a money/logistics thing (most likely), I wish they would just come out and say, "We don't feel the cost is warranted." There. Done.
But we all know that doesn't happen in real life.
What a stupid thing to say, and he's a stupid person for saying it, it does not even represent Nintendo's attitude.
Iwata has stated many times that they see both hardcore and casual games as viable pieces of entertainment software.
Wow, have you even played smash?Oblivion said:
To sync up a 4 player match around the globe would be near impossible with the amount of interaction between players, items and environment the game demands.
If they can get a 2 player match working without lag, I would be happy.
Tim the Wiz
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The real answer here is that NoA knows jack about where Nintendo is headed, and is but the dog at the leash of NoJ, well, alright... Iwata. He [Harrison] pretty much side-steps all the questions about actual games -- online and new IPs -- but he can actually answer the questions on availability, public perception, and marketing with actual due sincerity. Still, that's his job, and he isn't that bad at it.
I'm not sure online is really that important. At least for the audience they are aiming for, and me. When I want to play a console it's usually a single player game. Sure, some games will be awesome for online, such as Mario Kart. But otherwise, I'm fine with Nintendo's current online strategy.
PkunkFury
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Uremifasolasiututut said:
they are probably doing market research, and it's pretty obvious they are right. They also take into account sales of their products and sales of competing products with robust online, use of nintendo Wifi, vs. use of Live, etc. All of this compares favorably with their current strategy. it's in this part here:
"In our attitude there are a lot more people in our new expanded audience than there are traditional gamers. We think there's a social aspect in real life, in your living room for Wii sports. That said, we do have online games coming."
He's indicating that they've discovered interest for this feature in the hardcore, but not in the casual. Wii Sports, the game asked about in the question, was geared entirely towards the casual. Market data dictates that adding online to this game would not have helped it much, it will be a hit reguardless...
They do have online games coming, they are experimenting with offering this stuff. They'll proceed based on the results. And that's exactly what they're doing. Anyone who expects Wii Live to spring up overnight will be holding their breathe for a long time, and thats exactly what the answer indicates. It's a huge step up from "Online is a fad" or "We have an awesome online system coming just you wait and see delay... delay... delay..."
mentalfloss
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Vagabundo said:
Or 90% of GAF.
Uremifasolasiututut
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PkunkFury said:
Look guy, I'm not trying to "win" this argument, as many people seem to want to do. You are certainly entitled to interpret things as you see fit, and I'm not going to castrate you for seeing things differently.
It is more just me venting my frustrations about Nintendo. I feel they have so much potential, and when I see issues side-stepped like this it rubs me the wrong way.