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Kikizo AM2 Interview (VF5 360)
- Thread starter Apocryphon
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Visualante
Member
edit. Holy shit UK Resistance.
Apocryphon
Member
So if two people have solid 20 meg connections then there would be very little, if any lag?
The Faceless Master
Member
wow, not just no online, but no version c 
too bad their online play is so basic...
1 vs 1, no option for more people waiting in line...
too bad their online play is so basic...
1 vs 1, no option for more people waiting in line...
Apocryphon
Member
Jide said:
So it'll be playable, but to get close to a proper match you'd need to be playing somebody in the same country?
Apocryphon
Member
Can i get the title changed to: Kikizo VF5 (360) interview. No Plans to upgrade PS3 version! please?
The Faceless Master
Member
they'd have to redo all the 2d art assets!sprocket said:
Adam Doree said:
OH SNAP
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
tha_con said:
OR
Murayama: Frankly, Sony just hasn't sold nearly as many consoles as Microsoft, so we have no plan to spend more money to update the PS3 version like that, for online versus mode or Version C.
djtortilla
Member
no ps3 update?
jerks.
I hope it bombs on the 360, which it probably will, online play and all.
sure it will be a hit for the neogaf crowd, but not joe six pack
jerks.
I hope it bombs on the 360, which it probably will, online play and all.
sure it will be a hit for the neogaf crowd, but not joe six pack
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
tha_con said:
LOL @ everyone always insisting it MUST be moneyhats if MS gets something Sony doesn't.
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
djtortilla said:
Ummm.....maybe you should realize it was never a hit for joe six pack?
mr_bishiuk
Banned
tha_con said:
What makes you say that?
Maybe they just realised that to do well on 360 they would need online play.
It tanked on PS3 but sales would have been doubled or even triples if it had online in my opinion
Adam Blade
WWKC
Wow at thread.
mr_bishiuk said:
You think so? I don't. I think the name itself, unfortunately, has lost it's 'acclaim'. Tekken and DOA are much more name worthy, and frankly, VF is on the way out. Putting in 'online' was most certainly 'paid for' in one way or another. I just find it hard to believe that AM2 would leave out 1080p because of the 'extra work it would require' but then hop at the opportunity to voluntarily implement an online feature, when they were SO adamant about it in the past.
Developers don't just do 180 degree turns on their opinions and comments for the hell of it.
When AM2 said no online, they had no money from MS. When they said "hey, it'll have online" they had money from MS. I doubt they were just laying around one day and happened to stumble upon some netcode, or had a few 'extra people' lying around who had free time.
Money was most certainly involved. It makes sense.
Apocryphon
Member
Okay, so getting back to the interview; how playable is likely to be online, between two people living in the same city?
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
mr_bishiuk said:
It's easier to sleep at night that way?
beerbelly said:
No, I'm pissed because stick options on the 360 sucks, and the Dpad is garbage, and no matter how much the 360 version has, IMO, it's still not 'playable' until I have either a good stick or a good dpad.
However, it would be nice if AM2 wouldn't just blow off it's fans. Suggesting that the 'user base' was the only reason they couldn't implement online is ridiculous. Dropping the price to $39.99 and adding an online patch would increase their sales, at a minimum, and help recover some of their lost money. Or even offering some modest DLC for a small price over the PSN and XBLA, would bring in more money.
AM2 is simply too old fashioned, and they are going to get crushed because of it.
Sony already paid for a 6 month exclusivity window (which is why the 360 port was originally planned for August). They evidently didn't care about online play though, they just wanted the thing within launch window.
I doubt online was planned for the 360 rev originally anyway, pretty clear it was a much later addition with the additional 3 month delay (likely not even started until after the PS3 version released) and Microsoft evidently lent netcode support to AM2. Some "incentives" were likely exchanged here too, but it's not like Microsoft was ever in the driver's seat for VF5... Sony clearly had first dibs here.
Nice seeing the Sonycorps limpwristedly pushing Tekken and DOA as the new thing though. :lol
I doubt online was planned for the 360 rev originally anyway, pretty clear it was a much later addition with the additional 3 month delay (likely not even started until after the PS3 version released) and Microsoft evidently lent netcode support to AM2. Some "incentives" were likely exchanged here too, but it's not like Microsoft was ever in the driver's seat for VF5... Sony clearly had first dibs here.
Nice seeing the Sonycorps limpwristedly pushing Tekken and DOA as the new thing though. :lol
squatingyeti
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tha_con said:
Lost income from sales. Lost money to deliver said patch. Some extra sales because of price drop. Hmmmmm.....I'm betting they've already realized it would cost them more than they're going to recover.
So, how about adding it to a version that ISN'T released yet and they don't have to lower the price on? Wow, that might make them some money.
squatingyeti
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jarrod said:
SHHHHHHHH!!! Only MS pays money for stuff......or so I'm told.
tha_con said:
:lol They threw out a perfect port on PS3 7 or 8 months after the arcade game dropped...I thought that showed plenty of commitment. Of course it then went onto sell less copies then the average comic book, so their lack of enthuiasm for working with the PS3 version isn't particularly surprising.
And were they paid by MS? Of course they were. I said three years ago that MS would give Sega whatever it took to get VF5. Of course back then almost everyone doubted that prediction, which goes to show how much smarter I am then all of you.
...or is it 'than all of you'? Eh, who cares.
jarrod said:
Bingo.
As I said before, the deal came down to this...
Sony wanted it first
MS wanted it online
Sega wanted green
All three got what they wanted, and there was certainly plenty of excitement among the Sony throng when VF5 was initially announced as a PS3 exclusive. So complaining about the way things are now after the fact really isn't productive.
It's like the XBots whining about Gears of War PC getting a bunch of extras over the 360 version, even though they've had the game all to themselves for a fucking year. You can't have your cake and eat it.
Zombie James
Banned
mr_bishiuk said:
What's VF5's LTD sales?
jarrod said:
And it too was missing online play...imagine that.
squatingyeti said:
:lol Yeah, where were all these concerned people with their ethics and principles when Sony was buying games up left and right during the PS1 and 2 eras? It hurts when the shoe's on the other foot doesn't it?
Zombie James
Banned
jarrod said:
I think 400K would be enough for them to have turned a profit.
mr_bishiuk
Banned
tha_con said:
Man, you have issues
They wanted more sales plain and simple (so yer I suppose it was money!)!
As the arcade was only 720p doing a 1080p version would have meant redoing all the textures again so its understandable why they didn't! The 360 will have upscalled 1080p regardless.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Oh God, did this thread take a turn for the worse?
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
twinturbo2 said:
Minor speedbump as those still upset about the PS3 version lay in the path of this thread.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Yeah, but how fast was the car going over said speedbump?squatingyeti said:
squatingyeti
non-sanctioned troll
twinturbo2 said:
16 posts and counting since tha_con's last post.....I'd say the car was traveling about 35mph. The bump felt it, but it'll recover.