Dragona Akehi
Retired
schuelma said:
Well Nintendo still haven't proven they know what they're doing with the Wii. At all.
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Media Create Sales: Nov 23-29, 2009
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Well Nintendo still haven't proven they know what they're doing with the Wii. At all.
I think Nintendo is hesitant to make the classic controller a standard pack-in because the entire concept of the Wii is based around the Wii remote. I think they're a bit worried about what message would be sent by making an old style controller standard, even if it's just for one region.schuelma said:
Nirolak said:
Respectfully disagree, at least for Japan.
I think Nintendo is clearly attempting to push it to traditional gamers in Japan. They designed the thing with the help of Capcom, and since its release has been bundled with MH Tri, SW3, Winning Eleven, and part of a console bundle with ToG. They are already sending a message to people IMO and they might as well go all out. I think the MH Tri and SW3 stand alones would sell better if every gamer already had a CC Pro.
Well, I think they're not so much worried about whether Japan would understand it, but more about the press they might get from major publications that don't know what they're talking about.schuelma said:
I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of Western financial press saying stuff like "Wii Submits Defeat, Packs In Traditional Controller" if they did this in Japan, regardless of how moronic making such articles would be. Nintendo might also be worried that investors who don't understand the game industry would subsequently believe these reports also.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Took it from a random site on the internet (nintendoeverything.com) but don't know if this is real (page didn't have a source); supposedly this are Media Create software numbers (at least these are not chartzz numbers):
1. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii 935,000 / NEW
2. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2 287,000 / NEW
3. [PSP] Gunduam vs. Gundam Next Plus 223,000 / NEW
4. [WII] Samurai Warriors 3 121,000 / NEW
5. [DS] Professor Layton and the Devils Flute 85,000 / 391,000
6. [DS] Tomodachi Collection 75,000 / 1,822,000
7. [WII] PokePark Wii: Pikachus Great Adventure 64,000 / NEW
8. [DS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver 63,000 / 3,153,000
9. [WII] Wii Fit Plus 52,000 / 1,044,000
10. [PS3] Assassins Creed 2 49,000 / NEW
11. [PSP] Tokimeki Memorial 4
12. [DS] Power Pro-Kun Pocket 12
13. [DS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Kyoui no Shinryakusha Blizzard
14. [DS] Metal Fight Beyblade: Bakutan Cyber Pegasus
15. [Wii] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes W
16. [360] Assassins Creed 2
17. [WII] Momotarou Dentetsu 2010 Senkoku Ishin no Hero Daisyuugou ! No Ken
18. [WII] Wii Sports Resort
19. [DS] Stitch! Ohana to Rhythm de Daibouken
20. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Dodon to 2 Yome! 21. [DS] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
21. [DS] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
22. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010
23. [DS] Kaijuu Busters
24. [DS] New Super Mario Bros.
25. [WII] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
26. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! 6: Pride of J
27. [WII] Mario Kart Wii
28. [DS] Tamagotchi no Narikiri Channeru
29. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best)
30. [DS] Dragon Quest IX
1. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii 935,000 / NEW
2. [PSP] Phantasy Star Portable 2 287,000 / NEW
3. [PSP] Gunduam vs. Gundam Next Plus 223,000 / NEW
4. [WII] Samurai Warriors 3 121,000 / NEW
5. [DS] Professor Layton and the Devils Flute 85,000 / 391,000
6. [DS] Tomodachi Collection 75,000 / 1,822,000
7. [WII] PokePark Wii: Pikachus Great Adventure 64,000 / NEW
8. [DS] Pokemon HeartGold/SoulSilver 63,000 / 3,153,000
9. [WII] Wii Fit Plus 52,000 / 1,044,000
10. [PS3] Assassins Creed 2 49,000 / NEW
11. [PSP] Tokimeki Memorial 4
12. [DS] Power Pro-Kun Pocket 12
13. [DS] Inazuma Eleven 2: Kyoui no Shinryakusha Blizzard
14. [DS] Metal Fight Beyblade: Bakutan Cyber Pegasus
15. [Wii] Kamen Rider: Climax Heroes W
16. [360] Assassins Creed 2
17. [WII] Momotarou Dentetsu 2010 Senkoku Ishin no Hero Daisyuugou ! No Ken
18. [WII] Wii Sports Resort
19. [DS] Stitch! Ohana to Rhythm de Daibouken
20. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Dodon to 2 Yome! 21. [DS] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
21. [DS] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
22. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2010
23. [DS] Kaijuu Busters
24. [DS] New Super Mario Bros.
25. [WII] Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games
26. [PSP] J-League Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! 6: Pride of J
27. [WII] Mario Kart Wii
28. [DS] Tamagotchi no Narikiri Channeru
29. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd G (PSP the Best)
30. [DS] Dragon Quest IX
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
I guess they look real enough, the format, numbers matches what we expect... whatever, that's why I put the warning before them; I'm trying to check them right now.duckroll said:
Azelover
Titanic was called the Ship of Dreams, and it was. It really was.
Dragona Akehi said:
They know what they're doing, but it is probable you're not understanding it.
Don't worry, you're not alone on that one. I could explain but you would refuse it, we will consider it conventional wisdom many years from now. We're not meant to get it defined quite yet, because it's still undergoing.
In the meantime some people's fixed views will provide good energy.
Enterbrain numbers:
DSL-　6700
DSi-　45000
LL-　62000
PSP-　66000
go-　3600
Wii-　101000
PS3-　50000
PS2-　2500
360-　4300
Title - FW/FD/FD sell-through
1.NSMBW　937000　422000　51%
2.PSP2　285000　202000　66%
3.GvsGN+　238000　170000　61%
4.SM3　127000　55000(reg)　57%　23000(LE)　69%
7.Pokepark　57000
8.AC2 PS3　56000　28000　43%
10.Tokimemo 4　47000　28000
12.Pocket Pro 12　34000　23000　15%
14.AC2 360　28000　21000　48%
15.Kamen Rider　23000　8600　33%
16.Bayblade DS　22000　3700　10%
19.Stitch　20000　8300　23%
22.Kaiju Busters　16000　10000　31%
29.Cross Treasures　7500　6000　29%
DSL-　6700
DSi-　45000
LL-　62000
PSP-　66000
go-　3600
Wii-　101000
PS3-　50000
PS2-　2500
360-　4300
Title - FW/FD/FD sell-through
1.NSMBW　937000　422000　51%
2.PSP2　285000　202000　66%
3.GvsGN+　238000　170000　61%
4.SM3　127000　55000(reg)　57%　23000(LE)　69%
7.Pokepark　57000
8.AC2 PS3　56000　28000　43%
10.Tokimemo 4　47000　28000
12.Pocket Pro 12　34000　23000　15%
14.AC2 360　28000　21000　48%
15.Kamen Rider　23000　8600　33%
16.Bayblade DS　22000　3700　10%
19.Stitch　20000　8300　23%
22.Kaiju Busters　16000　10000　31%
29.Cross Treasures　7500　6000　29%
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
I'm impressed by the market the DSi LL found; the console really came out of nowhere and it's burning the charts.
NSMB Wii got a 2nd shipment
SW3 almost sold out its first.
Wii goes up 59k from last week
PS3 goes up 11K
If the MC numbers have the same jump from last week Wii would be at 105K, PS3 at 57K.
Yup, the YTD war is over and I think the December one is over as well.
Edit- PSP2 also had an extremely high sell through rate, and Gundam did well.
SW3 almost sold out its first.
Wii goes up 59k from last week
PS3 goes up 11K
If the MC numbers have the same jump from last week Wii would be at 105K, PS3 at 57K.
Yup, the YTD war is over and I think the December one is over as well.
Edit- PSP2 also had an extremely high sell through rate, and Gundam did well.
mutsu said:
Its not going to matter. If the Wii follows its normal December trajectory, and I don't see why it won't, it will probably be doing on par with PS3 even when FF13 releases and the weeks after. Plus it will gain more ground next week.
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
I'm more impressed by the fact that nobody's buying DS Lites anymore. I can see it being discontinued much sooner than I anticipated and allowing Nintendo's gambit to raise the price of their best selling product to work.manueldelalas said:
PSP hardware got a pretty good jump too.
Not surprising with all the games that came out for it.
Given its legs though Phantasy Star Portable 2 probably won't be going very far from here.
Samurai Warriors 3 almost had a complete sell through of its original shipment.
Legs aren't too awful, I wonder if it can sustain itself.
Not surprising with all the games that came out for it.
Given its legs though Phantasy Star Portable 2 probably won't be going very far from here.
Samurai Warriors 3 almost had a complete sell through of its original shipment.
Legs aren't too awful, I wonder if it can sustain itself.
vicissitudes
Banned
Yeah YTD war is pretty much over unless the Wii somehow sells less next week. The gap is less than I thought this week though, 51k.
The gap between Wii and PS3 is 50k this week, the gap for next week should be similar or at best a little lower, maybe 30-40k. I simply do not see the PS3 outselling the Wii by over 80-90k on the week of FFXIII, which would be what's required to give it any chance in the Dec LTD.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
duckroll said:
Terrible.
duckroll said:
My point was that if it didn't get another shipment it was virtually impossible for it to show more legs than it did.
duckroll said:
I think the actual bundles will do well (I doubt they made that many). Overall though..I suspect you are going to be proven correct and ToG isn't going to do as well as many here predict.
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Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
AniHawk said:
Front loaded, I tell you. FRONT LOADED!!
Dragona Akehi
Retired
duckroll said:
Fine I will present a graphical representation, with comparison.
Tales Wii Sales:
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NSMBWii
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FFXIII
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schuelma said:
No idea, it's not a limited bundle or even a unique system color/design, so no one really gives a shit to track. It's like those PSP bundles you see all the time (not S-E ones), with every other major game and in some existing color. I just mean that there being a bundle, and it being a semi-major release on a genre the console is weak on, will probably give the hardware a small boost of some sort. It has nothing to do with ToG itself selling a ton or anything.
vicissitudes
Banned
Dragona Akehi said:
Also works for consoles.