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Luigiv · Jun 1, 2011

The graphics look quite different from the Naked Sample tech demo. It's much more colourful but all those fancy shaders are missing. Is this a straight port of the PS2's assets? I can't tell (having not played much of the PS2 version).

A couple of other titbits of info. Apparently the game will have some form of gyro controls and will use the touch screen for switching weapons and items. Will be playable at E3 (no surprise there really).

More info at Andriasang.com

TheGreatMightyPoo · Jun 1, 2011

Looks epic to me or epicly promising.

Stumpokapow · Jun 1, 2011

Luigiv said:
The graphics look quite different from the Naked Sample tech demo. It's much more colourful but all those fancy shaders are missing. Is this a straight port of the PS2's assets? I can't tell (having not played much of the PS2 version).

I do suspect that there will be more effects in cutscenes than in gameplay.

The_Darkest_Red · Jun 1, 2011

Can't wait to play the best game of all time on the 3DS. I love what they've done with the bottom screen.

EatChildren · Jun 1, 2011

Stumpokapow said:
I do suspect that there will be more effects in cutscenes than in gameplay.

There will be, like all MGS titles (or games in general for that matter).

I do hope they can sustain a high IQ during gameplay though, with shaders.

Jocchan · Jun 1, 2011

I wouldn't say the fancy shaders are missing, honestly.
It does look much more colorful, though.

Plinko · Jun 1, 2011

Luigiv said:
The graphics look quite different from the Naked Sample tech demo. It's much more colourful but all those fancy shaders are missing. Is this a straight port of the PS2's assets? I can't tell (having not played much of the PS2 version).

Are you sure it's not because the 3D is on and it's making the screen visibly distorted? The 3D light is on if you look at the switch on the right.

Luigiv · Jun 1, 2011

Stumpokapow said:
I do suspect that there will be more effects in cutscenes than in gameplay.

Well it's a MGS game so that's guaranteed. Still I was hoping for more normal maps in game.

Ahoi-Brause · Jun 1, 2011

Oh shit... downgrade confirmed?
This looks exactly how I remember the ps2 version. Where are the shaders?

Relaxed Muscle · Jun 1, 2011

Looks really good, as expected, also that some cool keyboard he has.

Somnid · Jun 1, 2011

Plinko said:
Are you sure it's not because the 3D is on and it's making the screen visibly distorted? The 3D light is on if you look at the switch on the right.

3D light is always on if it can go 3D. The switch is down. Still the pic isn't the best.

TheFuryMGS3 · Jun 1, 2011

Ahoi-Brause said:
Oh shit... downgrade confirmed?
This looks exactly how I remember the ps2 version. Where are the shaders?

MGS3 on a portable is all you need!

Can't wait to pick up my 3ds and this game!

From The Dust · Jun 1, 2011

I want to see some direct feed before I make judgement

Rich! · Jun 1, 2011

Plinko said:
Are you sure it's not because the 3D is on and it's making the screen visibly distorted? The 3D light is on if you look at the switch on the right.

Dunno if you own a 3DS, but the light stays on regardless of whether you have the slider turned on or not. Look at the slider - it's turned right down, and is off.

The light just lets you know that the content can be viewed in 3D. That screenshot there is in 2D mode.

LiK · Jun 1, 2011

This is gonna be great. My fave MGS title.

Risk Breaker · Jun 1, 2011

Well, it looks like MGS3.

From The Dust · Jun 1, 2011

it definitely looks a lot more saturated. not sure if this is a good thing or a bad thing yet

fabricated backlash · Jun 1, 2011

Lol I was actually first looking at the bottom screen to see how they implemented the menus. And I like what I see. Big space for the map (and possible camera rotation) the complete HUD removed from the top screen. Nice.

Also the game really looks colourfull. Maybe it's to facilitate the smaller screen. MGS3 could be dreadfull to spot enemies at times even on a TV due to the low contrast and saturation of most scenes, so imagine the brown in brown mess on a small portable screen.

Honestly from this screen it looks identical to the released footage (except colour range)

PumpkinPie · Jun 1, 2011

Ahoi-Brause said:
Oh shit... downgrade confirmed?
This looks exactly how I remember the ps2 version. Where are the shaders?

I see some green there, I'm pretty sure the PS2 only contained brown and nothing else.

thechemist · Jun 1, 2011

Looking forward to this greatly! Cannot wait!

Kuran · Jun 1, 2011

3defense force in 3. 2.

Empty · Jun 1, 2011

liking the bottom screen stuff. should save time bopping in and out of menus and the top screen looks great with no hud.

Jocchan · Jun 1, 2011

Ahoi-Brause said:
Oh shit... downgrade confirmed?
This looks exactly how I remember the ps2 version. Where are the shaders?

You can't make them out from that screenshot. It really looks weird.
Actually, I have been looking for older screens for a straight comparison, and these are the only ones at native res I found showing some grass and trees:

Any more I missed?

Keyser Soze · Jun 1, 2011

The slider switch is red?

I wonder is that a new model

Or maybe it is just a dev unit...

StuBurns · Jun 1, 2011

I haven't been following the game, but I really hope they've addressed the micromanagement issues. I still think the PS2 version will be better just due to controls.

Rich! · Jun 1, 2011

Keyser Soze said:
The slider switch is red?

I wonder is that a new model

Or maybe it is just a dev unit...

Dev unit.

starok · Jun 1, 2011

How do you control the camera?

jett · Jun 1, 2011

Looks really similar to the original.

Stumpokapow said:
I do suspect that there will be more effects in cutscenes than in gameplay.

I don't, Kojima has never done that before. Character models are the only things that get improved.

ThoseDeafMutes · Jun 1, 2011

Plinko said:
Are you sure it's not because the 3D is on and it's making the screen visibly distorted? The 3D light is on if you look at the switch on the right.

NO.

The 3D light is NOT an indicator of whether 3D is active or not, it tells you whether 3D content is there or not. Even when the slider is down to zero, the light stays.

jett · Jun 1, 2011

Just noticed there are no camera controls on the touchpad. Shame.

wrowa · Jun 1, 2011

Cant really see that much on that screen honestly, but a visual downgrade compared to last years demo would be immensely disappointing.

It wouldnt surprise me at all though. I always get the feeling the 3DS port is more of a simple job to KojiPro that they want to ship as soon as possible than a game they are actually are interested in developing.

fabricated backlash · Jun 1, 2011

starok said:
How do you control the camera?

My bet is that the big space that is reserved for the Map is used as an aiming pad. (like in Metroid Hunters)

Wandering Leopard · Jun 1, 2011

starok said:
How do you control the camera?

I wondered about that myself having bought Subsistence - twice - over Snake eater for that very reason.

Luigiv · Jun 1, 2011

jett said:
Just noticed there are no camera controls on the touchpad. Shame.

Well if the game was going to have touch screen camera controls, it'd probably be done "mouse look" style (in which case there would not necessarily need to be any markings on the screen for it) however the positioning of the weapon switch buttons suggests that "mouse look" is not on table either, which is a real missed opportunity.

Keyser Soze · Jun 1, 2011

richisawesome said:
Dev unit.

Thanks.

Red/Black combo would be nice though

SneakyStephan · Jun 1, 2011

How can people even tell anything about this screenshot? (it looking diff etc)

It's tiny tiny tiny, the camera is facing upwards and all you can see is some grass, a bright sky and snake's back from a distance.

Plinko · Jun 1, 2011

ThoseDeafMutes said:
NO.

The 3D light is NOT an indicator of whether 3D is active or not, it tells you whether 3D content is there or not. Even when the slider is down to zero, the light stays.

SETTLE DOWN. It was already answered--I forgot it's on all the time in 3D mode.

BIONIC-ARRRMMM!! · Jun 1, 2011

So, what's on the touch screen?

Bottom-Right: Weapon + Attachment, Item.

Top Right: Camo, Backpack.

Middle: Map.

Top: Life, Stamina (With weird 4x sign)

Top-Left: ???? (Any Ideas??)

AgentOtaku · Jun 1, 2011

The_Darkest_Red said:
Can't wait to play the best game of all time on the 3DS. I love what they've done with the bottom screen.

Said it best

Doc Holliday · Jun 1, 2011

I don't know what you guys are talking about, looks like the demo to me. It's just a small blurry screenshot.

NinajHeartless · Jun 1, 2011

Huzzah! Another chance to play the best Metal Gear Solid game!

Morokh · Jun 1, 2011

SneakyStephan said:
How can people even tell anything about this screenshot? (it looking diff etc)

It's tiny tiny tiny, the camera is facing upwards and all you can see is some grass, a bright sky and snake's back from a distance.

I'm even surprised no one made a comment about the number of FPS at that point

Graphics Horse · Jun 1, 2011

Looks like same geometry and textures to me, didn't really expect them to rebuild the whole thing.

StuBurns · Jun 1, 2011

Morokh said:
I'm even surprised no one made a comment about the number of FPS at that point

Is it 60fps?

fabricated backlash · Jun 1, 2011

Graphics Horse said:
Looks like same geometry and textures to me, didn't really expect them to rebuild the whole thing.

My eyes, OH God the headache, where did you find this?

Graphics Horse · Jun 1, 2011

boris feinbrand said:
My eyes, OH God the headache, where did you find this?

Haha, a bad youtube capture of the same area, I tried to brighten it up a bit.
The point was the cliffs look the same, but I should have said that.

Jocchan · Jun 1, 2011

Graphics Horse said:
Haha, a bad youtube capture of the same area, I tried to brighten it up a bit.

I thought you were being sarcastic by showing the blurriest picture you could find :O

jett · Jun 1, 2011

Actually now that I remember I think the PS2 version didn't have bloom lighting on the skies, so that's one noticeable improvement you can gather from the screen.

Luigiv · Jun 1, 2011

Graphics Horse said:
The point was the cliffs look the same, but I should have said that.

Yeah first thing I noticed too. The Naked Sample demo had a very different cliff face texture with some very obvious normal mapping. In the new screen the Cliff texture looks identical to the PS2 version, very obviously without normal mapping.

herod · Jun 1, 2011

Assets are bound to be the same. I guess they will add effects as appropriate while keeping the framerate acceptable. Seems pretty obvious.

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