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Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown |OT| Top Tier Fighting, Top Tier Pricing
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Rickenslacker
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There are about 34k on the PS3 scoreboards.
Tenchi stance can be beaten by throws, circulars, or even half-circulars. Also I think attacks that leave the ground beat it.
I think the best advice vs Aoi is to learn high-damage stuff, and take risks, throw out your big throws/launchers in situations when you have small advantage. She guesses right you take good damage you guess right you do more damage. Aoi's very waifish so lightweight combos work. When folks do piddly stuff, Aoi's risky defensive style works best.
With Jeff, I'd be mixing up knees/backbreakers/half-circulars.
Wonder if the difference was all due to the complete pack discount? I'm still thinking about double dipping because of it.
Dreamer RD
Member
Had some very fun matches today with Gaffers mostly with Dreamer's RD Jacky. So fun. We exchanged way more msgs then fights though lol. But it's that cool interaction that makes online play worth it.
If you switch to Lion you gotta fight me man, please. I need experience vs that squatting dude. Can't hit him for life. Why he's got super evasive low mid movement?
Yeah man good games. I recorded some matches from yesterday - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C83q4RIJk6M
PSN was acting weird lately. I got kicked from couple of matches and now I have "Poker Face" connectivity icon :|
How to do this?
BronsonLee
Member
It being on Plus also skews the numbers really beyond comparison.
PS+ also. I was going to double dip, but saw no need with this por gratis.
Most of whom are probably PSRental Service people.
In fact, a trophy whore in the trophy whore thead only played it for the achievements, for free... so...
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
You seem a bit bitter about both of those points, considering this isn't the first time you've made pretty much this exact post.
The soccer kick still exists.
SiegfriedFM
Member
I would assume Sega gets paid when this is downloaded anyway, even if not the full amount, so it should be fine either way. And this is a game that the hardcore will keep playing until VF6, so it's not like competition will go away.
Really don't like this.
They have no invincibility or high priority though right? I'm pretty sure I stuffed both the mid and low versions multiple times from point blank range using Eileen's 9K.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Oh cool. Yeah online is acting bit crappy. Nice custom outfits, shame I can't see yours or you mine during fight. I got 16 of them, lol.
It's very different from Tekken, I wouldn't worry about that.
Trust me from a Tekken fanatic, the game is fabulously designed so the barrier of entry isn't astronomical and there's a lot of depth layered on top. VERY different from Tekken which can get unforgiving with people that don't know the wakeup game. I guess it was a bit easier for me to get into coming from a Tekken background but at the price it is and enjoyment it's provided so far... go for it.
And I do see some people sad at the sales so far, As long as GAF keeps playing it, there's a bundle of fun to be had.
LongDongJunon
Member
I actually JUST found that out the hard way.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Only big fault I can give is the online player match lobby setup. Requires 35 seconds in the lobby between matches with no way to speed up the timer.
Am I the only one who finds it easier to make rising kicks whiff now? Standing backdash got buffed and rising kicks can't be delayed anymore, so I find myself punishing them way more often than I used to.
FallingEdge
Member
Ignorance speaking, but those numbers aren't good? What would be an acceptable amount?
I think this is how it works:
They do have invincibility until they can hit. If you have an attack coming out at the same frame , the higher damage attack will win. Equal damage will trade.
If you have something that sabakis/reversals the kick, that will also work.
Best option is to block and punish, I think they are -15 which is a guaranteed punish (might even be a mini-launch for some chars)
As for the sales, I think the game is selling about Skullgirls level, which might not be enough. No hard data on that, but I think 100k would be a respectable figure to keep the series alive, and Skullgirls isn't at 100k yet.
As for the trophy whores, their money is just as good as ours when it comes to SEGA. I don't care why people play this, just as long as they give SEGA money for it.
I keep trying to backdash rising attacks, yet I often don't make it quite out of range. I feel like I used to be able to backdash away more often.
Punishing a rising sweep with a jumping attack seems way easier than it used to be, though.
As far as DLC customization goes, are they worth the investment as well?
GrayFoxPL
Member
I bought just one for 5$. It's fun but limited by what you can wear on which costume and by "item points" limit. It's not huge creative freedom but works for fun creations.
And no one else will see the outfits if they didn't buy the pack. So it's mostly for your eyes only.
I don't want to critique it too much yet. I'll just say I was expecting things in this game that were in Tekken... but that would be premature of me since they're different games and just because they're 3D doesn't mean they need to have the exact same mechanics.
For example, you're completely invincible for wakeup attacks, I think that's ridiculous from a Tekken background when half your game is based on oki, but there's a logic that Sega had for designing it in this way and until I fully grasp it, I'm not going to mouth off completely yet.
So far, online play if fantastic. Being in Canada it's near impossible to get matches in my own region
, but when I put it to worldwide I get matches easy.But the fun I'm getting so far is by playing fellow people in lobbies
And customization is pretty much equivalent to Tekken 6.
I have been getting player matches no problem on xbox.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Seen maybe one in whole on psn. Everyone is in ranked.
Skullgirls, a brand new IP, sold 50k digital copies within the first week, I believe.
So...nawp, not too good if leaderboards are anything to go buy.
A bunch of ignorant people out there.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Skullgirls, a brand new IP, sold 50k digital copies within the first week, I believe.
So...nawp, not too good if leaderboards are anything to go buy.
A bunch of ignorant people out there.
Sometimes I think Sega really did a lot to sink the VF brand hard with their neglect, after VF4 actually had good sales on PS2 (I thought?).
On the PS Blog last Tuesday, one random guy even commented "oh great, a re-release of an old shit fighting game". In my personal experience, I have seen a whole lot of dismissal of VF as being "a shit version of Tekken LOL" by American mainstreams who only ever played Tekken on Playstation as their sole fighting game.
My hope is that VF gets more exposure online thanks to the sheer prevalence of fighting game streams and events these days. Slowly build interest, etc.
Yeah, seems to be the same attitude many people who only play Capcom fighters have toward KoF.
It's a shame, really.
SegaManAU
Gold Member
I don't want to critique it too much yet. I'll just say I was expecting things in this game that were in Tekken... but that would be premature of me since they're different games and just because they're 3D doesn't mean they need to have the exact same mechanics.
For example, you're completely invincible for wakeup attacks, I think that's ridiculous from a Tekken background when half your game is based on oki, but there's a logic that Sega had for designing it in this way and until I fully grasp it, I'm not going to mouth off completely yet.
So far, online play if fantastic. Being in Canada it's near impossible to get matches in my own region
But the fun I'm getting so far is by playing fellow people in lobbies
And customization is pretty much equivalent to Tekken 6.
Don't think anyone searches "same area" because everytime I do, I get nothig. I just search "worldwide" all the time.
GrayFoxPL
Member
Game is free on psn+ so...
I'd say 20k sold.
But fighting games are usually slow burners unless it's Street fighter, Mahvel or Mortal Kombat 2, lol.
But when people say "leaderboards," do they mean the ranked match leaderboards or whatever? If so, I'm just wondering how accurate those are as a way of gauging sales of a game.
GrayFoxPL
Member
I think if you went online on 1 match you're on leaderboards.
Netcode and finding matches for ranked is pretty amazing on 360 for me. Only downside thus far is the lack of players, I tend to play against the same people often. I've really only had one laggy match.
TheSpoiler
Member
True dat.
We also forget how many people bought it off the PS+ thing. I assume Sony gives them something if they are offering the game for free.
SousedLouse
Member
I didn't get a reply to my last post in this thread, so today I played a bunch of Ranked Matches. You guys were right, there are quite a few Jacky players in the higher ranks. There's a nice mix of other characters being used as well, which is a nice change of pace from The Brad Show in Player Matches.
I was hoping to come across some real killers online, but no such luck. I did have a lot of close matches, though, and the general skill level in Ranked is a bit higher than it is in Player Matches. But there are some really braindead players, too. Got my first piece of hate mail in Ranked, and it wasn't even impressive, just "you dick" in the subject line. I managed to get up to 3rd dan and I kind of want to get a title now but once I get one I'll probably drop Ranked altogether.
GGs to Shouta and PhoenixAzure, though! I had fun matches with you both. I'll add my PSN to the thread, too.
PSN: SousedLouse
I wouldn't be surprised if VF5FS did bomb, though. The series isn't as popular anymore, and it seems that the downloadable release rubbed people the wrong way.
I was hoping to come across some real killers online, but no such luck. I did have a lot of close matches, though, and the general skill level in Ranked is a bit higher than it is in Player Matches. But there are some really braindead players, too. Got my first piece of hate mail in Ranked, and it wasn't even impressive, just "you dick" in the subject line. I managed to get up to 3rd dan and I kind of want to get a title now but once I get one I'll probably drop Ranked altogether.
GGs to Shouta and PhoenixAzure, though! I had fun matches with you both. I'll add my PSN to the thread, too.
PSN: SousedLouse
If I remember correctly, someone in the Skullgirls OT pointed out that 50K digital copies was actually pretty good for a downloadable game, and much more so for a brand new series. So that might not be the best point of reference to work with. I'm not really big on sales, though, so take this comment with a grain of salt.Skullgirls, a brand new IP, sold 50k digital copies within the first week, I believe.
So...nawp, not too good if leaderboards are anything to go buy.
A bunch of ignorant people out there.
I wouldn't be surprised if VF5FS did bomb, though. The series isn't as popular anymore, and it seems that the downloadable release rubbed people the wrong way.
Augemitbutter
Member
i just played 2 hours of player matches on PSN. i waited 2 minutes total.
Well, fuck it..ended double dipping, as after buying the "Brad pack" a few days ago...I was gift some Microsoft Points today and ended buying..both Customization bundles/packs.
Oh well, game's as awesome as always...but now I can slut the hell out of the male characters; which makes it better than "vanilla VF5"..
So, already customizing El Blaze, Goh, Kage, Akira so they only wear underwear, have tans and chest hair.
Thanks Sega! <3!
Xbox 360 version here and no problems so far with getting matches either Ranked or Player Match. Quite fast actually, considering there are around 7k people on the leaderboard. Fun too, especially Player Match as people seem to play for fun and practice move sets and combos more than in winning.
Special Sparring is better than I thought; with even more "ladders" to play.
Oh well, game's as awesome as always...but now I can slut the hell out of the male characters; which makes it better than "vanilla VF5".
. So, already customizing El Blaze, Goh, Kage, Akira so they only wear underwear, have tans and chest hair.
Thanks Sega! <3!
Xbox 360 version here and no problems so far with getting matches either Ranked or Player Match. Quite fast actually, considering there are around 7k people on the leaderboard. Fun too, especially Player Match as people seem to play for fun and practice move sets and combos more than in winning.
Special Sparring is better than I thought; with even more "ladders" to play.
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Yep. From what I've seen, fighters tend to sell better on PS3.
I think I am improving. Still trying to learn some larger, more lethal combos with Sarah and Akira.
Death Dealer
Member
I only play ranked, usually local area, and at most I'm waiting 20-30 seconds to match up with someone. It usually only takes about 5 seconds. Worldwide it's always fast, 5 seconds or less, but get a lot of no bar matches, so I stick with local and have yet to have problems finding opponents. The netcode seems good (PSN) Either the match is very smooth with no perceptible lag, or it's just blatantly laggy, I assume from a bad ping.
I'm a bit sad to say that I haven't seen a single customized character in ranked match yet, on PS3. Such a shame, seeing people's creations is one of the highlights for me. Makes me wonder how many people have just got this through PS+ and so not bothered buying the costume packs.
I had a really good match against a 9th Dan Sarah though, who was going to rank up while I'm still 1st Dan. They juuuust scraped through on the last round, but it was intense and damn close. Then he/she sent me a message thanking me for such a good match to rank up on. So nice!
I had a really good match against a 9th Dan Sarah though, who was going to rank up while I'm still 1st Dan. They juuuust scraped through on the last round, but it was intense and damn close. Then he/she sent me a message thanking me for such a good match to rank up on. So nice!