More at the source: http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/scri...erful_than_360_and_ps3_scribblenauts_dev.html
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5th Cell CEO (GAF's own Jackson): Wii U is "definitely more powerful than PS3 & 360"
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More at the source: http://www.videogamer.com/wiiu/scri...erful_than_360_and_ps3_scribblenauts_dev.html
Who are we to believe?!
Princess Viola
Member
I always presumed the arguments weren't that it was more powerful or less powerful, but how much more powerful than them.
I'd rather believe devs that will actually develop on it than those that will not.
The CPU stuff is because Wii U is using an Out-Of-Order CPU, which is pretty powerful on itself but might seem weak when directly porting stuff from other consoles, which is what most western devs are currently doing.
The CPU stuff is because Wii U is using an Out-Of-Order CPU, which is pretty powerful on itself but might seem weak when directly porting stuff from other consoles, which is what most western devs are currently doing.
CambriaRising
Member
How many ps3/360 games has 5th Cell made?
I'm actually curious.
I'm actually curious.
benjipwns
Banned
But then they have an financial incentive to sell the thing. So they're actually less trustworthy than those who don't develop on it.
PuppetSlave
Member
We get this same response in every thread.......
CambriaRising
Member
You have to take into account that those that won't develop for Nintendo, have a very well known history of dissing their platforms because they damage their bussiness model of bigger-prettier-faster over any other thing so they're not afraid of spreading FUD every way they can.
They've made Hybrid for XBLA, which will release during Summer of Arcade.
ZeroGravity
Member
Scribblenauts isn't exactly the kind of game that depends on this statement being true or not, nor does it really appeal to the kind of audience that would care.
xxbrothawizxx63
Member
Dammit, that just discredited his quote. I didn't see any PS360 games at all.
Edit: well, the XBLA game counts, I guess. Credit restored, at least partially.
Truly? Good to see that people are discussing the issue in a reasonable and objective manner then.
When you decide to go ad hominem you also have to take into account that so far 5th Cell has almost exclusively released mobile games and games on Nintendo platforms.
fabfour64xx
Banned
Round and round we go...
Why wouldn't you wait and see what games it has before deciding?
Dwight Schrute
Member
He never made a PS360 game !1!!
He must not now what he's talking about 11!!
He must not now what he's talking about 11!!
Pretty much every Wii U thread has had many such people making those claims.
Do you (or most people throwing terminology around) actually understand what it means for a CPU to support out of order execution? If anything, it should be easier to port to (and extract reasonable performance out of) an OOE platform.
I would argue and it has been argued in previous threads that claim you referenced is rarely made around here.
ShinobiFist
Banned
I go with what Harada said over this guy. He has more experience with current Gen console and past.
I doubt it. Certainly nobody would argue that more RAM is a bad thing and I can't see anyone arguing that the GFX hardware in the Wii-U is weaker. It's only the CPU that has been consistently described as 'weaker'.
The question / argument isn't whether the Wii-U is more powerful, it's how much more powerful.
JordanN
Banned
Same reason if someone told you PS3 couldn't play blu-rays I guess.
The answer has always been obvious but the debate has been nothing short of unnecessary.
Who said the CPwiiU was weaker?
Because Nintendo games haven't appealed to me since the Gamecube days. And multiplatform titles are going to look better on the new MS and Sony consoles anyway.
iamshadowlark
Banned
How do you know any of this?
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
I don't see why the shades of grey in this discussion even matter, especially when the competition will be on a completely different level. If it's close enough to the 360/PS3 for this discussion to be entertained, for all practical purposes this conversation seems totally pointless. Games aren't going to look leaps and bounds better, but there will be some improvements here and there, whereas the next Xbox and Playstation will exist in a whole other world. I don't see why this is so controversial.
Little Green Yoda
Member
I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Jackson wasn't talking exclusively about GAF in this instance. There's a lot of ignorant fanboys on the web but what else is new.
Edit: probably should've quoted SmokyDave instead but I'm too lazy to change this on my mobile
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
I wonder if we still have these threads well after the WiiU is out, its like theres someone new saying something every week now.
Because its not true ?
Because people are looking for new experiences. Last gen experiences have already been experienced.
People still argue about the relative power of the PS2, Gamecube, and Xbox.
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Deleted member 30609
Unconfirmed Member
No. The threads will then be "PS4 rumored to be as powerful as a PC with Geforce GTX780/Radeon HD8970".
At this point,and with what we hear, the real concern is not how powerfull it is regarding the actual consoles (i was always certain that it would be a Nintendo usual case of more with less, always).
The thing we know, that can be a concern, is that making beautiful, or impressive things on the hardware will need dedicated and specific effort. Everything right now tends to show that.
That means... Gamecube.
The dream of seeing PS4/XBX8 ports is pretty dead, if there isn't real quick some good tools to facilitate it, and real good ports of next gen engines.
This is pretty simple. Most editors of a certain genre aren't that crazy about porting their game on a Nintendo console already. If it gives them problems, it's pretty dead.
The thing we know, that can be a concern, is that making beautiful, or impressive things on the hardware will need dedicated and specific effort. Everything right now tends to show that.
That means... Gamecube.
The dream of seeing PS4/XBX8 ports is pretty dead, if there isn't real quick some good tools to facilitate it, and real good ports of next gen engines.
This is pretty simple. Most editors of a certain genre aren't that crazy about porting their game on a Nintendo console already. If it gives them problems, it's pretty dead.
cosmicblizzard
Banned
PS3/360 gen experiences have already been experienced with GC/PS2/Xbox.
DiscoJer
Member
And I remember people arguing about the power of the Wii vs Xbox quite a bit...this is really just a retread of that.