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Namco Bandai Q1 profits up 200 per cent [SC5 - 1.38 mil, Naruto Ultimate NSG - 1 mil]
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SpaceDrake
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What's interesting is that this means that either their Japanese sales figures for Soulcalibur V are massively under-reported, or the unbelievable majority of copies of that game are sold overseas at this point. The last reported figure for SC5 in Japan was in the neighborhood of 150k.
Anyway, nice to see SC5 doing good. Now hopefully they'll address the issues it had (mostly with the story mode) in either an ultimate edition of SC5 or in 6!
Anyway, nice to see SC5 doing good. Now hopefully they'll address the issues it had (mostly with the story mode) in either an ultimate edition of SC5 or in 6!
j0hnny_385
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Currently my favorite publisher. EuroGAF here. 
First the Demon's Souls Black Phantom Edition, then Dark Souls, The Witcher 2, Tales of Graces f/Xillia, Ni No Kuni, ...
As an avid RPG gamer, I'm more than happy with their work. Keep it up! \o/
First the Demon's Souls Black Phantom Edition, then Dark Souls, The Witcher 2, Tales of Graces f/Xillia, Ni No Kuni, ...
As an avid RPG gamer, I'm more than happy with their work. Keep it up! \o/
Black Republican
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wheres my klonoa 3 scamco? :-(
Azure Phoenix
Member
I'm surprised to hear SCV actually sold well considering how Namco just recently killed off all future CAS DLC despite having a bunch of stuff created and just awaiting release.
TheThunder
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No Dark Souls sales/shipments ?
electroplankton
Banned
I'm doubtful as well concerning Soul Calibur V numbers. It sold between 220k and 330k in the first month in the US (closer to 220k I think) and it did not perform nicely in PAL charts. Well, good for Namco.
SolarPowered
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It's not some unusual. The Soul series has become more popular overseas as it's domestic performance dwindled. Fighters don't sell that much in Japan compared to some RPG and adventure titles.
Bruno MB
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It had sold in Japan 64,217 units (PS3 version) as of end of June.
It's very surprising that they managed to ship in this last quarter so many copies worldwide.
Last we heard, it was at 1.5 million shipped worldwide. While it is a "long tail" game, I doubt it's moved that many more units since then.
FormallyFamicom
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What's this about?
Cornbread78
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Would love to see the Tales of Graces number in EU and NA.
Bruno MB
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63,931 in US, it hasn't been released in Europe yet.
Azure Phoenix
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Basically someone trawled through the files in the Cepheus compatibility packs and found that Project Soul put in icons for content that was due in later packs. Because of that everyone knew what item packs were on the horizon, it was just a case of when they came out.
When Daishi announced there would be no more DLC, there was still a large amount of unreleased DLC that we'd seen the icons for. The biggest casualties were the next few SC5 equipment packs, which contained parts of the basic costumes for Viola, Siegfried, Maxi, Nightmare, Yoshimitsu, Raphael, Edge Master, Mitsurugi, Killik, Hilde and Astaroth. It's particularly annoying since the first pack sold well and all the CAS creators were eagerly awaiting those few packs.
This image shows all the DLC that didn't get released:
Dedication Through Light
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That is awesome for Naruto. Storm Generations was quite fun with playing with the part 1 versions of characters. Hopefully Shippuden Storm 3 will bring them back and more as it looks and sounds to be pretty awesome.
Too bad its so hard to convince irl friends to pick up Storm Generations though.
Too bad its so hard to convince irl friends to pick up Storm Generations though.
So I have a tangentially related question. If generally think this would make a good standalone topic, I'd be happy to start a separate thread.
Why do Japanese companies usually report video game sub-segment sales in software units instead of revenue, while US/EU companies report it in terms of revenue and not units?
For example, see the PDF from Namco-Bandai:
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/financial/pdf_bnh/en_20120802_2.pdf
Go down to page 3, and you can see per-platform sales reported as units, not revenue.
On the other hand, if you go to page 6 of the corresponding quarterly PDF for Activision Blizzard:
http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...eab7dec/Earnings Release Financial Tables.pdf
You'll see per-platform sales reported in terms of revenue, but not units.
Is this a cultural difference? Or something required by law in certain regions? I'm trying to understand why the disparity exists.
Why do Japanese companies usually report video game sub-segment sales in software units instead of revenue, while US/EU companies report it in terms of revenue and not units?
For example, see the PDF from Namco-Bandai:
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/en/ir/financial/pdf_bnh/en_20120802_2.pdf
Go down to page 3, and you can see per-platform sales reported as units, not revenue.
On the other hand, if you go to page 6 of the corresponding quarterly PDF for Activision Blizzard:
http://files.shareholder.com/downlo...eab7dec/Earnings Release Financial Tables.pdf
You'll see per-platform sales reported in terms of revenue, but not units.
Is this a cultural difference? Or something required by law in certain regions? I'm trying to understand why the disparity exists.
Cornbread78
Member
Is that it? Ouch, seems very low......
ThatCrazyGuy
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Shouldn't naruto be selling more that calibur? Seems like the bigger IP.
in US?
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
They have the money demon with Naruto now. They're gonna be making one every year..
http://www.bandainamco.co.jp/files/2012201Q20E8A39CE8B6B3E8B387E69699EFBC88EnglishEFB.pdf
Looking at the operating income by region they'd be making more money if they holed up and just sold shit within Japan.
They specifically mention 'social games' on the Japanese IR report, likely much of the Japanese profits is from there (decent sales, extreme profitability). When you think about it 500K sales is a drop in the bucket for a company that size, so this trend is likely to continue.
Looking at the operating income by region they'd be making more money if they holed up and just sold shit within Japan.
They specifically mention 'social games' on the Japanese IR report, likely much of the Japanese profits is from there (decent sales, extreme profitability). When you think about it 500K sales is a drop in the bucket for a company that size, so this trend is likely to continue.
SpaceDrake
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Samurai_Heart
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Same feelings here, one of the publisher that have really outdone themselves, they are doing a great job.Currently my favorite publisher. EuroGAF here.
First the Demon's Souls Black Phantom Edition, then Dark Souls, The Witcher 2, Tales of Graces f/Xillia, Ni No Kuni, ...
As an avid RPG gamer, I'm more than happy with their work. Keep it up! o/
Too bad, they are bias to certain parts of Europe though. The lack of One Piece Pirate Warriors CE for the UK =, but sort of understandable with the lack of the anime/presences here.
BoilersFan23
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I would think that was one of the better Tales game on a PlayStation console in the US.
AgentChris
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Go go Naruto. Go go CyberConnect2.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
It's not, I believe it's actually the worst besides Radiant Mythology PSP.
From what I understand no Tales game has ever sold more in Europe than America either, so we could very easily be looking at ~100k total for the west for Graces f. It's a colossal bomba, and actually comes in as Namco Bandai's worst selling console RPG in America this gen.
Truth be told, Namco probably should've localized Graces as a Wii exclusive a year earlier, then recalibrated to get Xillia localized in Graces f's place. I think both releases would've decently outperformed what Graces f managed.
SatelliteOfLove
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Good to see mid-sized games with mid-sized budgets do well. Especially now.
It's a dark temptation, a musical chairs game with far fewer seats than aspiring participants (in a generation FILLED with situations like this).
It's a dark temptation, a musical chairs game with far fewer seats than aspiring participants (in a generation FILLED with situations like this).
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Hopefully the shift to digital can help mitigate the risks with western localization going forward, even if to the exclusion of retail. I think a case like One Piece PW PSN is preferable to no release at all.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Never again will people have to wait fucking forever for a new SoulCal.
LOL jk it's namco they'll do whatever the fuck they want
LOL jk it's namco they'll do whatever the fuck they want
KillerMan91
Member
It's kinda funny that people always talk about death of Japanese gaming when Japanese publishers are pretty much only ones that constantly make money in the industry.
BassForever
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Yet in their statement of bringing Tales of Xillia west, they cited positive Graces F sales as the reason they were bringing over Xillia
NamcoBandai said:
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Yeah, unless they're bluffing and they punched out 250,000 copies of the damn thing or something (that phase of Scamco having insane sales goals for their titles is history, right?)
From a single player standpoint, yeah. The multiplayer needs significant work though.
Good for them. They make fantastic games and it's good to see Japanese games succeeding.
They stick to their guns and it pays off, scamco DLC stuff aside.
CC2s Naruto games are probably the best Anime games ever, and it's good to see them making 'traditional' tales games without feeling the need to Westernize the gameplay.
They stick to their guns and it pays off, scamco DLC stuff aside.
CC2s Naruto games are probably the best Anime games ever, and it's good to see them making 'traditional' tales games without feeling the need to Westernize the gameplay.
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