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ekim · (08-12-2012, 08:24 AM)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=221100568971

Let's throw our money together.

DAE is the guy that leaked the kinect 2 and devkit pictures.

https://twitter.com/superDaE/statuse...41234042056704

Horse Armour · (08-12-2012, 08:25 AM)

If MS pull this, does this confirm that it's a real devkit?

onQ123 · (08-12-2012, 08:26 AM)

I was just about to post this but somehow got sidetracked into a thread when I logged onto neogaf.

show me your skeleton · (08-12-2012, 08:26 AM)

if this was genuine, would microsoft be able to shut it down? i assumed dev. kits were lent to companies, not given.

Cartman86 · (08-12-2012, 08:26 AM)

If he manages to sell it for a ton and it's not actually a dev kit what happens? What is eBay's policy?

terrdactycalsrock · (08-12-2012, 08:26 AM)

Originally Posted by Horse Armour:

If MS pull this, does this confirm that it's a real devkit?

Maybe? Of course if it was real they would want it down. But if its fake they would want it down because they can have any rumors like this affecting what people think

Sid · (08-12-2012, 08:28 AM)

Someone needs to buy this and tell us what's inside?

Meisadragon · (08-12-2012, 08:29 AM)

$405 seems awfully cheap, doesn't it? Don't think Microsoft will pull this.

Full Recovery · (08-12-2012, 08:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Meisadragon:

$405 seems awfully cheap, doesn't it?

It's an auction..

PAULINK · (08-12-2012, 08:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Meisadragon:

$405 seems awfully cheap, doesn't it?

Well there's still 6 days and 22 hours left on the auction.

Sid · (08-12-2012, 08:30 AM)

Originally Posted by Meisadragon:

$405 seems awfully cheap, doesn't it?

Yeah it costs the devs $10,000 i think

Detox · (08-12-2012, 08:30 AM)

MS will snipe this auction

Cartman86 · (08-12-2012, 08:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Sid:

Someone needs to buy this and tell us what's inside?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484451

Perkel · (08-12-2012, 08:31 AM)

Looks fake to me. No aditional pictures and this picture is paint cut.

Meisadragon · (08-12-2012, 08:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Full Recovery:

It's an auction..

Yup, just saw.

Perkel · (08-12-2012, 08:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Cartman86:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484451

looks like it's real (blue clip)

electroshockwave · (08-12-2012, 08:32 AM)

Originally Posted by PAULINK:

Well there's still 6 days and 22 hours left on the auction.

I would have put a really high buy it now price on it. It seems like an auction would give Microsoft more time to stop it.

Sid · (08-12-2012, 08:32 AM)

Originally Posted by Cartman86:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=484451

Yeah but which gpu? and how exactly does the cpu measure up to current desktop parts?

xxbrothawizxx63 · (08-12-2012, 08:33 AM)

Originally Posted by Cartman86:

If he manages to sell it for a ton and it's not actually a dev kit what happens? What is eBay's policy?

eBay is almost always on the side of the buyer if the complaint is genuine. They guaruntee your cash up to a certain amount if problems arise where the buyer tries to just rip you off. Don't know the policy for purchases that are so expensive though. If it wasn't a Durango devkit then you could just open an "item not as described" claim.

Thunder Monkey · (08-12-2012, 08:34 AM)

LET'S BYE IT FOR NO RAISIN!

Triple U · (08-12-2012, 08:35 AM)

Originally Posted by electroshockwave:

I would have put a really high buy it now price on it. It seems like an auction would give Microsoft more time to stop it.

Well you can set a minimum auction price. If the amount doesn't hit that limit then the auction is canceled.

dc89 · (08-12-2012, 08:36 AM)

EviLore - spend some GAF monies and get this bought!

I think some publication on the web will be interested in this. After all, Gizmodo bought a stolen iPhone so they may as well buy this too!

elektrixx · (08-12-2012, 08:37 AM)

Why no picture of the controller?

subversus · (08-12-2012, 08:37 AM)

who needs an alright PC for cheap?

JordanN · (08-12-2012, 08:37 AM)

Originally Posted by elektrixx:

Why no picture of the controller?

You are the controller.

CambriaRising · (08-12-2012, 08:39 AM)

Originally Posted by elektrixx:

Why no picture of the controller?

Quote:

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Cartman86 · (08-12-2012, 08:39 AM)

Originally Posted by elektrixx:

Why no picture of the controller?

Probably just a wired 360 controller.

itsgreen · (08-12-2012, 08:40 AM)

Aren't dev kits property of MS. And don't they always be so?

Sid · (08-12-2012, 08:40 AM)

Why no picture of the internals?

FStop7 · 08:46 AM

I want to bid on it but not unless the seller can prove to me that it's not stolen property or in violation of an NDA. Because I don't see how it couldn't be. After seeing what Gizmodo was put through over their purchase of a stolen iPhone 4 prototype I want to know all the details on how that dev kit is free and clear.

The seller's Twitter icon is furry porn, which isn't confidence inspiring regardless of whether or not that's a real dev kit.

It's also worth noting the eBay listing puts that dev kit in Delaware, but the seller's twitter location claims to be Raleigh, NC.

Epic is in Cary, NC - that seems the most likely place where it could have escaped from.

Microsoft also has a campus near Charlotte but I don't think they do any XBox development there. I've actually been there twice and was told it's mostly support for government agencies.

Choc · (08-12-2012, 08:41 AM)

Originally Posted by Sid:

Why no picture of the internals?

im guessing its stamped with the developers ID or something that could identify him, same with the controller.

This could very well be a very very clever way for DAE to get Microsoft to acknowledge this is indeed it by pulling the ebay listing.

That would be smart, i dont think he wants to sell it. I could be wrong.

By the way, yes i would say this is bulldozing a BILLION NDA documents and confidentiality agreements. I have no doubt of that. Especially as its pre-release

sakipon · (08-12-2012, 08:42 AM)

Originally Posted by dc89:

I think some publication on the web will be interested in this. After all, Gizmodo bought a stolen iPhone so they may as well buy this too!

Not sure any media would buy it publicly though. If this was real I think it would've been so much smarter to keep low and sell it to some magazine behind the scenes, offering proof of it being legit. Therefore I call fake.

Sean · (08-12-2012, 08:42 AM)

Originally Posted by dc89:

EviLore - spend some GAF monies and get this bought!

I think some publication on the web will be interested in this. After all, Gizmodo bought a stolen iPhone so they may as well buy this too!

Microsoft should troll everyone by outbidding in the last minute.

Choc · (08-12-2012, 08:44 AM)

Sony should buy it, secretly of course.

or Nintendo.

I just have a strong suspicion he is assuming MS will pull it and just wants proof that it is the system

schwupp · (08-12-2012, 08:46 AM)

adding to watch list :D

hym · 08:51 AM

I don't see how this can work out for either the buyer or the seller, Microsft's lawyers most likely already contacted eBay and PayPal to report stolen property being sold or it's a scam in which case both parties will also comply.

PAULINK · (08-12-2012, 08:49 AM)

Originally Posted by Triple U:

Well you can set a minimum auction price. If the amount doesn't hit that limit then the auction is canceled.

Well if this devkit is genuine and microsoft catches wind of it, they will probably get ebay to take it down, which is why it's not very smart to have this run on for so long if you want to sell it.

Gizmowned · 08:53 AM

Seems very risky. Seen many X360 XDK's from eBay be pulled so I doubt this will stay up for long if it is actually legit.

I'm not sure what the process is for tracking one though. I imagine it could connect to PartnerNet and if so tracked?

And I'm sure Microsoft will be able to gather information easily from eBay of the sellers details such as name, address and such so it seems pretty stupid to do.

Hell I sold a Killzone 2 promo back in the day about a week before it released and Sony went nuts threatening legal action against myself. Even though they were probably just trying to shit me up they had the power to remove the promo within an hour or so.

Edit

31 bids already at $11,000

FStop7 · (08-12-2012, 08:50 AM)

I wonder why he's selling it rather than publishing the details on it. He'd get millions of hits if he put up a site that broke down the full specs. I'd think he'd get a lot more money by doing that than by selling the box on eBay without even proving it's real.

dekline · (08-12-2012, 08:50 AM)

"This item comes with powercables, and a wired controller."

Where are the pics?

Everything about this is sketchy...Where are the specs? Any information at all? How did he get this?

We will all have to keep an eye on this......

outunderthestars · (08-12-2012, 08:52 AM)

Originally Posted by dekline:

"This item comes with powercables, and a wired controller."

Where are the pics?

Everything about this is sketchy...Where are the specs? Any information at all? How did he get this?

We will all have to keep an eye on this......

Microsoft will have it shut down by this afternoon.

Apparition · 08:55 AM

Wow, $11K+ already!

CambriaRising · (08-12-2012, 08:54 AM)

https://twitter.com/superDaE/status/234555564041068544

Quote:

@MeauxMonet Why? My lawyers say GO FOR IT.

I call Shens.

Sethos · (08-12-2012, 08:54 AM)

Haha, it's probably just an old ass PC and people will pay premium money for it.

Triple U · (08-12-2012, 08:54 AM)

Originally Posted by PAULINK:

Well if this devkit is genuine and microsoft catches wind of it, they will probably get ebay to take it down, which is why it's not very smart to have this run on for so long if you want to sell it.

Its probably another joke anyway. No way the dev-kit belongs to him personally without being stolen(which I doubt is the case).

Its gotta be the property of some pretty decent sized development house and they are probably just letting him have his fun. No way would they let him sell it.

Originally Posted by Apparition:

Wow, $11K+ already!

That escalated quickly from 5 minutes ago ($405).

Yeah fake auctions tend to do that.

MuseManMike · 08:59 AM

Wow. It just jumped from $900 to $11,000. Seems legit.

Lakitu · (08-12-2012, 08:56 AM)

Are people bidding that high because they think it'll be pulled? $11,000 seems crazy to me.

Edit: Oh, I see now. They were pulled.

Brad Grenz · (08-12-2012, 08:56 AM)

Originally Posted by itsgreen:

Aren't dev kits property of MS. And don't they always be so?

One way or another, if it's real it's stolen.

FStop7 · (08-12-2012, 08:56 AM)

I wouldn't be surprised if all these early dev kits are property of Microsoft. They send them out, serialized and asset tagged, basically 'on loan' to their partners.

DemonNite · (08-12-2012, 08:56 AM)

and now back down to 20 bids - $405?