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She never stopped to consider the shining beacon of perfection Richie from Happy Days is? Man, I wonder how Scientologists feel about the Fonz.
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Just got a visit from scientology.
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She never stopped to consider the shining beacon of perfection Richie from Happy Days is? Man, I wonder how Scientologists feel about the Fonz.
Don't. They can be very good. At the very least they'll make you feel like shit.
Sounds like you handled that very well
I only recently found out that the scientology centre for Munich is just around the corner from me. :-/
not seen any of them yet though.
Can't disagree more, when he doesn't answer emails she will be back.
Tell them no and to fuck off, it's much more effective and wastes less time of everyone
SecretSphere
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Nah, they track every successful conversation, sale etc and report them every thursday so they know if they are "downstat" or "upstat". Even if she thinks you were not interested, she needs her stats. http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?4777-quot-Upstat-quot-vs-quot-Downstat-quot
You have to answer 200 questions (they call it the "Oxford Capacity Analysis"). Here's a sample (from Wikipedia):
3. Do you browse through railway timetables, directories or dictionaries just for pleasure?
6. Do you get occasional twitches of your muscles, when there is no logical reason for it?
27. Do you often sing or whistle just for the fun of it?
30. Do you enjoy telling people the latest scandal about your associates?
59. Do you consider the modern prisons without bars system "doomed to failure"?
69. Does emotional music have quite an effect on you?
105. Do you rarely suspect the actions of others?
124. Do you often make tactless blunders?
196. Do you sometimes feel that your age is against you (too young or too old)?
While answering, you have to hold metal cans connected to an "e-meter", which, as has already been said, is just a wheatstone bridge. If the gauges move when you answer, it's a sign that something is wrong with you. Protip: hold the cans as lightly as you can, and don't squeeze if you want to get good results. The slightest squeeze will give a bad result.
Good or bad results, the test is set up in such a way that no matter what you answer, they'll find something negative, something "wrong" with you. They then say that they can help you with those exact problems, and try to set up an appointment in one of their places. They also try to sell you books before letting you go.
The daughter of a Norwegian politician killed herself a few years ago after taking one of these tests on the street. They found so much "wrong" with her that she became suicidally depressed. So don't try them, even not just for fun, if you don't know that their results are actually meaningless.
Choppasmith
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Never ran into a scientologist. Guess I'm lucky. Here in California, out in the desert, I've only run into Mormons and the old religious fanatics. They used to come into my store all the time, but they've dramatically decreased over the last couple years.
Same with me, just not scientology. I'd find religious pamphlets tucked away on shelves and hidden with the magazines. Now, I just find the very rare, occasional pamphlet in the bathroom.
Same with me, just not scientology. I'd find religious pamphlets tucked away on shelves and hidden with the magazines. Now, I just find the very rare, occasional pamphlet in the bathroom.
Thanks man! That was enlightening. I don't think I fully grasped the scop of what scientology is all about and how negative it is, when I was talking with that lady. I only remembered South Park at that moment. But yeah, they ruin lives. Damn
Armoured Priest
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I'm always reminded of the Faith No More song "Land of Sunshine" when scientology talk comes up.
The moment she pulled out that Dianetics book I would have said get the fuuuuck out!
My brother used to be a Scientologist. It's turned him into a real piece of work. Don't get me wrong, I very much love my brother but there are certain things about him that are still completely fucked because of his 15 or so years with Scientology. Not to mention that he's over 40 and has hardly anything to his name because up until 5 years ago all his money went into Scientology, and he made great money for a lot of years. I'll stop here, I could go on and on but it'l just anger me.
My brother used to be a Scientologist. It's turned him into a real piece of work. Don't get me wrong, I very much love my brother but there are certain things about him that are still completely fucked because of his 15 or so years with Scientology. Not to mention that he's over 40 and has hardly anything to his name because up until 5 years ago all his money went into Scientology, and he made great money for a lot of years. I'll stop here, I could go on and on but it'l just anger me.
CharlieDigital
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Is he still in? Or is he out?
If he's out, what was the turning point?
Is he still in? Or is he out?
If he's out, what was the turning point?
He's been out for about 5-6 years now. The turning point was when the company he worked at since University went bankrupt and shut down. Leaving him with the realization that he has no assets and no savings, he ended up moving to Europe to work for a friend of his and has been there since. It was pretty much both because of the fact that he suddenly noticed how much money he's wasted over the years and the Country in Europe he moved to, or at least in the immediate area didn't have a Scientology branch.
It didn't happen overnight, after a couple years he'd still bring it up in conversation from time to time when giving advice and what not. But as time went on that faded. He hasn't mentioned it in a few years.
But they still call my parents house a couple times a year looking for him, they've called me as well, no clue how they'd get my number. My immediate response is always he's done with you, stop fuckin calling and I hang up. But they continue to call back every now and then, according to my dad anyway. Who feels extremely negative towards the whole thing, understandable I guess.
But who knows, maybe secretly he's still into it. I couldn't say. I talk to him all the time, through skype or on the phone. It seems like he's removed himself, but you never know. I haven't seen him in almost 6 years.
Slayer-33
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Sounds like you handled that very well
I only recently found out that the scientology centre for Munich is just around the corner from me. :-/
not seen any of them yet though.
Munich? I was under the impression that Germany effectively banned Scientology because it was considered a cult by the government?
Ingueferroque
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Free Record Shop still exists?
Check out the John Sweeney documentary and its followup on YouTube that the BBC did. Really interesting, scary stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRSt_viosc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkQdLTJWwo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFRSt_viosc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkQdLTJWwo
BruiserBear
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Ugh. That sounds so annoying.
Green Wiggly
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Better spray for Thetans, just to be safe.
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The whole religion or just one person?
CrudeDiatribe
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Some guy tried to recruit me on a Munich crosswalk at night in '99, back when it was still illegal. My highschool German was only good enough to understand delibrately slow speakers
and Austrians
Freeza Under The Shower
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that was my thought as well. I'm not Belgian, but still.
anonymous_abc
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If I remember correctly it is not allowed to call itself church in Germany, but I am honestly not sure beyond that.
ok after checking wikipedia, they are not officially recognised as a church or religion. It has been in and out of courts over the years with them trying to change that. So far the highest courts haven't ruled definitively either way.
They have been officially and actively watched by the Verfassungsschutz (Constitution Protection Agency for lack of a better word) for years and are therefore classed as possibly being anti democratic.
Interestingly the US State Department has officially been critical of this policy as being against freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
Deified Data
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I don't know OP, you sound like a really nice dude but you probably shouldn't have encouraged her. These people are dangerous.
Dianetics, your buttcheeks is warm?
I was about to say, Tenacious D mentioned in the same topic as Dianetics, and it's not about Kielbasa?
Fellow Belgian here.
I've never encountered a scientologist in the wild before. Where was it if I may be so curious.
I know they have a church in Brussels because there were protests there when the whole Scientoligy vs anonymous thing went down. But that's about it when it comes to my knowledge of them in Belgium.
I'm from Antwerp btw.
Yeah, I know the media said otherwise at a given moment but another company
just acquisitioned us so we're good again. I'm happy since I work there every Sunday and I get double the hourly pay. So I get 20 euros/h for sitting there listening to some good music and reading some good books when it's calm. Oh, and helping the customers ofc.
Can't wish for a better student job!
Yeah, I know that now. You are right of course but at that moment I just felt pity.
It is only thanks to this thread that I began to understand just how evil scientology really is.
Lippenslaan in Knokke. She was from Holland though so technically that doesn't count as a wild Belgian scientologist.
BobTheFork
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It's downtown about 2 blocks from Coors field so tons of people go by there. There seems to be a continual game amongst bar dwellers as to who can pee on the building without getting caught. There are a few dozen camera surounding it.
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