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nib95 · Nov 21, 2013

Digital Foundry | Next-Gen Now: Ryse: Son of Rome

Digital Foundry said:
Short, immensely repetitive, and only really playable in short bursts without boredom setting in - it's fair to say that Ryse: Son of Rome is far from the most thrilling offering available for Microsoft's new console. However, in terms of rendering technology, it can be argued that the CryEngine-powered title is one of the most visually impressive launch titles available. There are points - many of them - where this game is simply breathtaking, with an overall presentation that is very filmic in nature, making it stand apart from the pack.

Well, of all the games we've seen since then, Ryse is arguably the closest we get to a practical example of this theory - and it looks quite spectacular for much of its duration. Resolution doesn't drop all the way to 720p - Crytek chose 1600x900 - but the overall look is very cinematic, from film grain to motion blur to the immense levels of post-processing and pitch-perfect effects work. Ryse works at a sub-native resolution where others flounder partly because the anti-aliasing is quite sublime. The usual issues we have - stair-step jaggies, moire patterns on textures - are all extremely difficult to pick up on here.

Performance analysis of the first campaign stage of Ryse: Son of Rome. We've omitted analysis of the FMV video sequences, making it easier for you to see what is being rendered in real-time - and what isn't.

Ryse Frame Rate Analysis

The frame rate isn't terrible, but it is shy of 30fps most of the time. The visuals look amazing though, as they should do for a 900p/sub 30fps next gen game.

Atlas157 · Nov 21, 2013

The framerate dip was a design choice.

Bad_Boy · Nov 21, 2013

More fuel to make the fire ...uh

maquiladora · Nov 21, 2013

Short, immensely repetitive, and only really playable in short bursts without boredom setting in - it's fair to say that Ryse: Son of Rome is far from the most thrilling offering available for Microsoft's new console.

Ouch.

Angelus Errare · Nov 21, 2013

bleh, the framerate drops aren't that serious at all.

Fezan · Nov 21, 2013

Very disappointing article by DF. they said they are doing tech article but i wanted to read some thing of substance

T.O.P · Nov 21, 2013

Such a wasted opportunity

Fezan · Nov 21, 2013

in terms of rendering technology, it can be argued that the CryEngine-powered title is one of the most visually impressive launch titles available. There are points - many of them - where this game is simply breathtaking, with an overall presentation that is very filmic in nature, making it stand apart from the pack.
Crytek chose 1600x900 - but the overall look is very cinematic, from film grain to motion blur to the immense levels of post-processing and pitch-perfect effects work. Ryse works at a sub-native resolution where others flounder partly because the anti-aliasing is quite sublime. The usual issues we have - stair-step jaggies, moire patterns on textures - are all extremely difficult to pick up on here. Even the anti-aliasing on the hair on Marius's centurion helmet is perfectly executed

This is all there is in the article

Mr Moose · Nov 21, 2013

Went as low as 16fps at one point.

Normally between 26 - 30.

Alienous · Nov 21, 2013

Anick18 said:
The framerate dip was a design choice.

Yep. Do you think they'd add dirt and glare to a virtual camera lense and not drop to a cinematic framerate?

Powered by Cryengine.

Cthulhu_Steev · Nov 21, 2013

26fps? They should've gone all out for the more filmic 24.

PdotMichael · Nov 21, 2013

Bad_Boy said:
More fuel to make the fire ...uh

Talking about the Xbox One. It's more the opposite.

Skeff · Nov 21, 2013

Cthulhu_Steev said:
26fps? They should've gone all out for the more filmic 24.

They do sometimes. they even go below 20fps.

EDIT: wow it's even going down to 25fps in the indoor scenes too...

Terbinator · Nov 21, 2013

2GB file downloading now.

sestrugen · Nov 21, 2013

~~secret sauce~~
~~dGPU~~
~~The Cloud~~
~~50 Hz up clock~~
???

Always-honest · Nov 21, 2013

Yeah i noticed how extraordinairy the AA was in this game while watching HQ download vids. If the AA is this good, i don't mind 900P, at all.

AllenShrz · Nov 21, 2013

I expect grand things from this thread.

PuppetMaster · Nov 21, 2013

Not quite 30fps, but not quite too low to complain about.

Dat balance!

CozMick · Nov 21, 2013

16fps? Wow.

Looks beautiful in trailers but that framerate is unacceptable.

beast786 · Nov 21, 2013

Mr Moose said:
Went as low as 16fps at one point.

Normally between 26 - 30.

But the KKRTOK gaf guy told me it will be triple buffering and vsync and locked like every crytek game.

Call me shocked.

Fezan · Nov 21, 2013

Always-honest said:
Yeah i noticed how extraordinairy the AA was in this game while watching HQ download vids. If the AA is this good, i don't mind 900P, at all.

its really amazing. This and killzone are seriously Hyping me up for next gen

Jack cw · Nov 21, 2013

Nice! sub 30 fps. This game should have been a movie from the beginning. Not so good news regarding the future titles if even Crytek didnt manage to achieve a steady framerate at 900p. I'm afraid 1080p will be hard to achieve with good graphics.

Wishmaster92 · Nov 21, 2013

DF didn't even talk about cutscene vs realtime graphics? What kind of VS article is this?

Iacobellis · Nov 21, 2013

So the game is beautiful, but feels like a chore to play.

Shit.

Guymelef · Nov 21, 2013

Crytek on Ryse at sub 30fps: PS4 would be same

codhand · Nov 21, 2013

900p, 28fps,... you tell me crytek.

zainetor · Nov 21, 2013

beast786 said:
But the KKRTOK gaf guy told me it will be triple buffering and vsync and locked like every crytek game.

Call me shocked.

triple buffering only means no tearing.

nib95 · Nov 21, 2013

Always-honest said:
Yeah i noticed how extraordinairy the AA was in this game while watching HQ download vids. If the AA is this good, i don't mind 900P, at all.

I've noticed that it's super clean on anything that is close up, but tends to do less well when things zoom out or where a lot of draw distance is visible.

For example.

Terbinator · Nov 21, 2013

Wishmaster92 said:
DF didn't even talk about cutscene vs realtime graphics? What kind of VS article is this?

There are no cutscenes.

Majanew · Nov 21, 2013

Maybe they should have went with 720p to get a rock solid 30fps...

Such a damn disappointment next-gen is so far. Yes, PS4, too.

Ashes · Nov 21, 2013

Shouldn't really tag on a video which shows the game constantly dropping frames from the 30fps target, in a piece glowing about the game's technical merits. What was the author thinking?

codhand · Nov 21, 2013

who's gonna be the first anonymous industry dev to express his disappointment with the h/w?

graphics still look good to me, just the gameplay that seems overly violent for how dull it is.

ICPEE · Nov 21, 2013

Anick18 said:
The framerate dip was a design choice.

#dead

Always-honest · Nov 21, 2013

nib95 said:
I've noticed that it's super clean on anything that is close up, but tends to do less well when things zoom out or where a lot of draw distance is visible.

For example.

[IMGhttp://images.gamersyde.com/image_ryse_son_of_rome-23646-2061_0006.jpg[/IMG]

[IMGhttp://images.gamersyde.com/image_ryse_son_of_rome-23646-2061_0009.jpg[/IMG]

Yess. Still extremely impressive for console games.

Skeff · Nov 21, 2013

Terbinator said:
There are no cutscenes.

Yes there are, they are pre rendered:

Performance analysis of the first campaign stage of Ryse: Son of Rome. We've omitted analysis of the FMV video sequences, making it easier for you to see what is being rendered in real-time - and what isn't.

nelsonroyale · Nov 21, 2013

Wishmaster92 said:
DF didn't even talk about cutscene vs realtime graphics? What kind of VS article is this?

I don't think the cutscenes are real time unfortunatley. I think they mentioned it in one of the reviews, and the fact that they don't analyse the frame rate during the cutscenes in this footage lead me to think that it is the case.

Chobel · Nov 21, 2013

Wishmaster92 said:
DF didn't even talk about cutscene vs realtime graphics? What kind of VS article is this?

Because this is not the detailed article, there will be one more article see

We're also working on a tech analysis piece that explores the game in more depth, so look out for that.

RooMHM · Nov 21, 2013

Crytek are technical genius. Too bad they. Forgot about the "game part" after Crysis.

nib95 · Nov 21, 2013

Wishmaster92 said:
DF didn't even talk about cutscene vs realtime graphics? What kind of VS article is this?

I think they'll likely have a proper one up later. This was a Richard Leadbetter Softball version (actually had a quote from Crytek taking up a chunk of the article). Expecting a full tech breakdown article from someone like Thomas Morgan or one of the other guys hopefully, with less dev commentary and more analysis.

Also, the article implies that cut-scenes are pre-rendered.

Skeff · Nov 21, 2013

Ashes1396 said:
Shouldn't really tag on a video which shows the game constantly dropping frames from the 30fps target, in a piece glowing about the game's technical merits. What was the author thinking?

"By Richard Leadbetter"

It doesn't matter if fact's don't go your way, you can write whatever feels nice.

nelsonroyale · Nov 21, 2013

Always-honest said:
Yess. Still extremely impressive for console games.

Eh? We aren't on current gen anymore mate. 1080p + AA (or 900p in this case) = expect mostly great IQ from here on out.

Chobel · Nov 21, 2013

Anick18 said:
The framerate dip was a design choice.

Dat first post

wiggleb0t · Nov 21, 2013

RooMHM said:
Crytek are technical genius. Too bad they. Forgot about the "game part" after Crysis.

Wasn't it all about Console Crysis'itis?

Uncle Rupee · Nov 21, 2013

Terbinator said:
There are no cutscenes.

Pre-rendered using in-game assets.

Ashes · Nov 21, 2013

Skeff said:
"By Richard Leadbetter"

It doesn't matter if fact's don't go your way, you can write whatever feels nice.

It's 900p too.

These consoles really are mediocre. Leadbetter cheerleading for the weaker console is getting embarrassing.

Dits · Nov 21, 2013

Crysis 2 will be uncompromised on PC

DistortionOfReality · Nov 21, 2013

Fezan said:
Very disappointing article by DF. they said they are doing tech article but i wanted to read some thing of substance

Why would they write a substantial article for an unsubstantial game?

ricardo_sousa11 · Nov 21, 2013

Looks pretty amazing, but god is it boring...

Chobel · Nov 21, 2013

Skeff said:
Yes there are, they are pre rendered:

But KKRT00 said it's all real time in-engine?

JaggedSac · Nov 21, 2013

nib95 said:
Also, the article implies that cut-scenes are pre-rendered.

No need for implications, they are indeed FMVs. The game loads while they are playing.

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