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Yves Guillemot: Will improve characters Watch Dogs 2, Aiden Pearce's role uncertain
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mgs2master2
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meh. The only thing wrong wasn't just the characters.
SocksAndShoes
Banned
Please get rid of Aiden.
He was bland and had no character development beyond the standard "man out for revenge" trope. Clara or T-Bone would be infinitely more interesting as protagonists.
He was bland and had no character development beyond the standard "man out for revenge" trope. Clara or T-Bone would be infinitely more interesting as protagonists.
Storm Raider
Banned
The problem with games is that they try to appeal to everyone and therefore creates an 'average game' that most will 'like' but never 'love', instead of making it unique and creating something that a lot will love, really support, and create a fan base.
Instead of such an average lead character, I think some games need to have a unique character, an unforgettable one with a personality, one with motivation, and feelings.
Instead of such an average lead character, I think some games need to have a unique character, an unforgettable one with a personality, one with motivation, and feelings.
mullet2000
Member
Well jeez I'd hope so. There's no where to go but up, really.
Aiden, without exaggeration, is one of the worst videogame protagonists I've ever played as. Completely unrelatable and unlikable. No other characters in the game stand out as at all interesting either, save maybe Jordi Chin, who's barely in the game anyway.
Axe Aiden for the sequel. He's unsalvageable.
Aiden, without exaggeration, is one of the worst videogame protagonists I've ever played as. Completely unrelatable and unlikable. No other characters in the game stand out as at all interesting either, save maybe Jordi Chin, who's barely in the game anyway.
Axe Aiden for the sequel. He's unsalvageable.
SolidsnackooFoxhound
Banned
I'm not buying the next game fuck off Ubisoft. One of the most mediocre developers in the industry.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Hit the road Aiden
They're making a DLC with T-Bone.
A shame both of those characters pretty much disappeared after a few missions
excluding Jordi because he appears at the end but eh
UltraGunner
Banned
I felt more of a connection to the crazy hitman than to Aiden, so that was definitely a problem
Connor is incredible compared to Aiden and that is saying something.
a secret-boss
Banned
maybe have a friggin alias next time u try to hit the bad guys and u have a family around
chickdigger802
Banned
im really fucking curious about people that 'love' aiden... there is NOTHING about him that is 'loveable'.
haven't felt this bummed about a protag im playing since Asbel.
His rapist smile does not help either.
mission: tail that guy
walk 2 steps.
YO ITS THE VIGILANTE! LETS TAKE A PICTURE!
haven't felt this bummed about a protag im playing since Asbel.
His rapist smile does not help either.
mission: tail that guy
walk 2 steps.
YO ITS THE VIGILANTE! LETS TAKE A PICTURE!
Prototype Viktor
Member
You're in luck! Because of your feedback you'll play a white guy born in the Philippines from white parents who moved there for charity work and stayed the rest of their lives
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BronsonLee
Member
I'm not finished with the game, but Pearce sucks all the way. Worst vigilante in the world.
Either bring back Clara or just start fresh because fuck that guy and his 80 trenchcoats
Either bring back Clara or just start fresh because fuck that guy and his 80 trenchcoats
Byronic Hero
Member
Aiden needs to go away and Jordi needs to have a bigger role.
Kocolino67
Member
I'm all in for this one
Linearskillz
Member
Eh I think the hate is localized to a few loudmouths on the internet, with a good concentration here on gaf. Just look at Skyrim - if you based your opinion solely on those on this forum you'd think it was the worse game ever made.
That said Aiden was a dumb character. I eventually embraced that he is a murderous psychopath, no better (morally) than a GTA protagonist, and it got better.
If they do an AC1>AC2 jump in quality for WD2 it'll be awesome. The first game is pretty good most of the time but seems to back away from the more unique and interesting ideas and plotlines whenever it gets close to greatness.
Mild ending spoilers
Mild ending spoilers
Aiden's outlook at the end of the game was what I was expecting him to be for the rest of the game. A new protagonist being trained by a more self aware Aiden could help the game a lot.
ComputerBlue
Member
Next game to feature a male replica of Clara since everyone seemed to love her.
jakonovski
Member
Translation: "story and characters were an afterthought, still are, and will be"
If Watch Dogs 2 still takes place in Chicago, the scope / sand box / open-world better include some of the major suburbs (Evanston, Highland Park, in Cook & Lake County, etc) plus Chicago's satellite cities: Elgin, Joliet, Aurora and Waukegan.
Ubisoft, you do want to at least look like you're trying to compete with with Rockstar/GTA, don't you? Did you guys play San Andreas ?
Make full use of all the RAM available to games in the new current-gen consoles.
On the subject of graphics, well, I'm not even gonna go there right now.
Ubisoft, you do want to at least look like you're trying to compete with with Rockstar/GTA, don't you? Did you guys play San Andreas ?
Make full use of all the RAM available to games in the new current-gen consoles.
On the subject of graphics, well, I'm not even gonna go there right now.
MomoPufflet
Member
Seriously fuck Aiden. You don't need to rationalize it or try to "improve" him, just don't put him in the next game period.
SJRB
Gold Member
Aiden is cool, it's the disjointed narrative that makes him look bad.
Jordi is awesome, Clara is fine, Quinn is great. Maurice is very interesting. Defalt was very cool because of how out-of-place he was compared to the rest. Iraq was okay, but had too much character buildup with way too little payoff.
The only truly, utterly terrible characters are Damien Brenks and T-Bone. Which is unfortunate, because Damien Brenks is the backbone of the entire narrative.
Jordi is awesome, Clara is fine, Quinn is great. Maurice is very interesting. Defalt was very cool because of how out-of-place he was compared to the rest. Iraq was okay, but had too much character buildup with way too little payoff.
The only truly, utterly terrible characters are Damien Brenks and T-Bone. Which is unfortunate, because Damien Brenks is the backbone of the entire narrative.
Freakinchair
Member
I actually really liked Aiden. He took shit seriously and he was a flawed character (wouldn't let go - refused to cooperate with Damien out of pride - vengeful). Much better than all the wise cracking hilarious jokesters that are prevalent these days (Jordi fills that role anyways). I like my stories to be serious sometimes.
What was wrong with the ending? I thought it closed things off well and setup for a sequel.
Walking around like a creep in some kind of messed up Ubi design costume, whispering "I'm the batman" to his phone.
And then some dude shoots him.
A bunch of have said it, but I'm hoping Watch Dogs 2 will make the jump AC did to AC2, AC was a solid base much like Watch Dogs, good mechanics but the story and main character were rather meh.
That would be nice, but you know Ubisoft, they like main characters who wear something no one else in the game world does and sticks out from a crowd like a sore thumb.
That would be nice, but you know Ubisoft, they like main characters who wear something no one else in the game world does and sticks out from a crowd like a sore thumb.
Denton
Member
I did not mind Aiden as much, even if he was inconsistent and growl was out of place in places. I can see him in the next game.
But, Clara was fantastic and I loved every cutscene she was in -
- and Jordi was pretty awesome too, would like to see him in another game.
All in all I just want Watch Dogs 2 already, I enjoyed the shit out of this game and want more, especially if they take criticisms to heart. Not the driving ones though, because haters can suck it, driving was awesome. Just give me more freedom to look around in cockpit view and I am golden.
But, Clara was fantastic and I loved every cutscene she was in -
so it super sucks ass what happened with her
All in all I just want Watch Dogs 2 already, I enjoyed the shit out of this game and want more, especially if they take criticisms to heart. Not the driving ones though, because haters can suck it, driving was awesome. Just give me more freedom to look around in cockpit view and I am golden.
Ascenion
Member
Connor, if you actually play all AC3 has to offer, is quite possibly the most real character Ubisoft has ever made. His problem was Noah Watts and its a shame we'll never get to see him truly develop.
That's not how every game should be approached. Plus Ubisoft.
Byronic Hero
Member
You think Aiden was good but T-Bone was bad? That's a bit backwards. Aiden was as dull as a blown lightbulb while T-Bone actually had a personality.
Kadayi
Banned
I think the biggest problem with Aiden was in large part down to the fact that they don't introduce to you to him before events.
Half the charm of say Ezio was that you initially played him as relatively carefree Florentine youth before injustice & tragedy befall his family.
You directly experienced his loss, versus being shown it through a cut scene.
WD never really makes an effort to explain AP in terms of his role prior to the events of the game. Albeit he's talked about as a hacker, he's in reality more akin to a fixer/field operative Versus Clara or T-Bone (whom I agree is a walking cliché). Eluding to some military/espionage background as a career before he turned to crime wouldn't of really gone amiss in terms of defining him.
Personally I think going forward they are far better off going with a new protagonist. Hopefully one whose more fully fleshed out.
Half the charm of say Ezio was that you initially played him as relatively carefree Florentine youth before injustice & tragedy befall his family.
You directly experienced his loss, versus being shown it through a cut scene.
WD never really makes an effort to explain AP in terms of his role prior to the events of the game. Albeit he's talked about as a hacker, he's in reality more akin to a fixer/field operative Versus Clara or T-Bone (whom I agree is a walking cliché). Eluding to some military/espionage background as a career before he turned to crime wouldn't of really gone amiss in terms of defining him.
Personally I think going forward they are far better off going with a new protagonist. Hopefully one whose more fully fleshed out.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Aiden was real! Dont get rid of him completely ubisoft
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