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Megaton!(?): LBP3 to allow full 3D movement between "layers."
- Thread starter Khalifa Jayy
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TheWorthyEdge
Member
Isn't this game from the same people who made the Vita version? And wasn't the vita version supposed to be the best?
E: Read some of the Devs replies and damn. I'm extraordinarily hyped!
Gat dang, you still did a super impressive job. 5 years on and I still haven't bothered to learn how to do the infinite layers glitch. Haha, I remember playing Craft Earth Crusaders back in the beta.
By the way, any word on whether the voice recording quality is improved at all? I mean, I figure it's a file-size thing, but...
3rdamention
Member
I'm starting to think I'm the only one who preferred the floaty jump physics
Well, the good thing is, the tools let level creators mess with the physics settings (been there since an updated to LBP2). So you can make them more precise or more floaty when you create your levels. So when you start playing user created levels, that should be one of the comments you make when you complete it, if you dont like the jump physics.
AcademicSaucer
Member
Now if only the controls were more tight
It's been said numerous times in this thread and reiterated by the developers:
They are.
No kidding. I was a big... uh, drawer as a kid, and I used to draw scenes or levels of made-up video games. I was fourteen when LBP1 first came out, and it was the perfect answer to my desires. Even now, I maintain that it's the most intuitive game-maker out there. LBP1 was especially good in that aspect, since very little of what held the story levels together was hidden from the player. In essence, you could learn how to build levels by playing levels.
Khalifa Jayy
Banned
Read the thread.
donkey show
Member
Hehe, here's what we mentioned about tweaking the core Sackboy controls (probably needs to be a separate thread title itself)
So yeah, you can go nuts with customizing how Sackboy and friends move, jump, run, etc (which is much easier than in LBP2 now), but yes we've gone lengths to make the base controls for you much tighter, less floaty, and more direct in feel versus the previous installments. ^^
jackissocool
Member
Yeah but I just wish they would fix those floaty controls, you know? Otherwise why bother?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Really disappointed to hear this isn't 60 fps
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I'm really disappointed it's not November 18th yet.
And wouldn't it be great if you could move smoothly through the layers?
jackissocool
Member
Ha! As if. Media Molecule should just go ahead and drop this. Let some third party dev handle it so they can make a new IP and get gameplay right for once.
I'm the exact same, man.
I'm a big supporter of games with expansive and intuitive content-creation systems in general (Trials, Halo, etc.).
No kidding. I wish they'd announce LittleBigPlanet 3 already.
Why would they skip LittleBigPlanet 2? They could let people make their own games in it and it would be awesome.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Last I heard, 30 fps was the target
makingmusic476
Member
Is there anybody here that's working on LBP3? Donkey Show?
I'd love if somebody in an important decision knew that I, and I'm sure many others (though I only surveyed myself), would love to be able to access the story levels from LBP1+2 alongside all the user generated levels in LBP3. LBP1's levels in particular are some of my favorites of all time. <3 the Gardens.
I believe they mentioned that LBP Hub, if it still exists, would include all content from LBP1+2, and I'd love if that ended up being true for LBP3 on PS4. Even if it's paid DLC, I want those levels!
Edit: I made this topic the subject of my very first Tweet. https://twitter.com/makingmusic476/status/501195874081718273
I'd love if somebody in an important decision knew that I, and I'm sure many others (though I only surveyed myself), would love to be able to access the story levels from LBP1+2 alongside all the user generated levels in LBP3. LBP1's levels in particular are some of my favorites of all time. <3 the Gardens.
I believe they mentioned that LBP Hub, if it still exists, would include all content from LBP1+2, and I'd love if that ended up being true for LBP3 on PS4. Even if it's paid DLC, I want those levels!
Edit: I made this topic the subject of my very first Tweet. https://twitter.com/makingmusic476/status/501195874081718273
Ugh, that happened to me once in LBP1. I had a backup of most of my stuff, but not my most recent work in create mode.
Also, I'm no big musician, but yeah, the music sequencer could use more instruments/improvements. Or at lease a couple of bug fixes. I still sometimes have issues where when I place a note down on one end of the sequencer and the same note down further away, and the two attach, making one long note.
donkey show
Member
Another thing I forgot to mention during the live stream about making your own stickers:
No problemo ^^
No problemo ^^
Hydrargyrus
Member
This game, without making noise untill the E3, is becoming for me in probably the most anticipated game of 2014
SerTapTap
Member
Another thing I forgot to mention during the live stream about making your own stickers:
wait as in remote play on Vita lets you use real touch controls or what? I LOVE when games do that, very disappointed when a game has touch controls on Vita but doesn't have them for PS4 remote play on Vita.
I don't really know much about LBP, but is there like, a physics editor? 3D + being able to adjust the feel of the jumps etc. would be amazing
edit: saw the posts above, cool!
Really coolAnother thing I forgot to mention during the live stream about making your own stickers:
(the touchpad idea)
Another thing I forgot to mention during the live stream about making your own stickers:
In normal play, you've got 16 2d playing fields that you can transition between, though the transition is fairly rigid. Now, using a bit of logic, you can move through the 16 layers in a way that looks to be about as smooth as in a 3d platformer. Hard to say what the extent of this ability will be without poking at it myself.
Sword Of Doom
Member
I know exactly what you mean. The Galaxy games to me feel floaty. Donkey Kong Country on the other hand feels tighter and much much more precise imo
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Remake of Crash Bandicoot 1-3 incoming.
donkey show
Member
I believe I mentioned it during the stream, but we've revamped it more like Netflix viewing/searching experience, especially now that players can add their own trailers to their levels via PS4 share factory.
EDIT: Yup, I mention it here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePLtSxYgUGw#t=1615
Baron Aloha
A Shining Example
Will we be able to chain a sequence of levels together in this to make mini-games?
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
You can already link multiple levels together in LBP2 with a level portal of sorts.
Xenon
Member
Cool thanks. BTW, it seems like I was playing the Azure Temple not too long ago. Congrats on landing on the team.
One thing that was mildly concerning in one of the LPB trailers is a few of the shown 'custom created stages' had slowdown (particularly some top down helicopter game) This kind of thing is no acceptable anymore! I know you will always be able to strain the engine in your own levels, but we better get rock solid performance and playability out of the PS4 version. One of the things that has hampered custom levels in the past is horrendous lag on the PS3 due to skipped frames etc.
Whatever the input lag in LBP has been make sure it is as low as possible moving forward guys! Input Lag killed Killzone 2 for most people and it has hampered LBP for a long time.
Whatever the input lag in LBP has been make sure it is as low as possible moving forward guys! Input Lag killed Killzone 2 for most people and it has hampered LBP for a long time.
geordiemp
Member
Yup, controlling sackboy annoyed me no end on Ps3 on first LBP, never bought one since...
How hard can it be to make decent platforming controls in 2014 ? Look at how Rayman controls for example
Hate getting frustrated by poor controlling character.
IF they get the controls right it could be a winner. Hope there is a demo...
EdReedFan20
Member
Another thing I forgot to mention during the live stream about making your own stickers:
No problemo ^^
PS Move support?
It's probably because controls in Mario are just a tiny bit more responsive and there is no intricate physics system so your jumps are always the same so you know better where you are going with a jump. Sackboy is affected by the same physics system that affects every object in the game, so the height of the jump can vary based on a number of factors, which can make players feel less in control of Sackboy than what they feel with Mario. It can feel annoying when there's some jump you think you can make but because there's some bump in the level or something, it'll affect the physics of the jump and your jump will end up short.
That said, I think LBP2 and especially LBP PSP & Vita really improved on this aspect and it's more responsive than before.
I'm pretty sure you could do that in LBP2 already? You could make Sackboy move differently. It might've been behind some trickery, but it could be done.
Most assuredly. Move support was a big DLC in LBP2, and in a screen I took from Donkey Show's create mode demo, you can still see move controller options in the painting mode:
EdReedFan20
Member
Sweet. I loved the Move stuff in LBP 2. I hope they also bring offer the Cross-Controller DLC from LBP 2.
I'd count on it too. The PS4 is already more compatible with Vita than the PS3 was.
EdReedFan20
Member
Yup, but I wonder, since it currently uses the old remote play on Vita, if there would be issues reworking it for the PS4 Link Second Screen stuff.
jackissocool
Member
Obviously I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I imagine it would be much easier now.