Banjotanooki
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Oh god no.....guy's a great handheld director but Skyward Sword was just....OK....
We need Koizumi back with Zelda!
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RUMOR: New EAD Team Led By Koichi Hayashida
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Oh god no.....guy's a great handheld director but Skyward Sword was just....OK....
We need Koizumi back with Zelda!
Shikamaru Ninja
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It doesn't quite work like that. 100 people don't just pop-up out of thin air, all this means is that the birth of a third production unit at EAD Tokyo looks concrete. Essentially this means more games, but they all share a pool of graphic artists, programmers, etc. So if 80 people were working on Captain Toad and Ultimate NES Remix the past 6 months, there are probably smaller staffs working on the groundwork of other 2015 and 2016 titles at the other Tokyo section groups.
Before Miyamoto officially approved of the GARAGE incentive, Koizumi allowed his staff members to create new IPs behind management's back. That's how NES Remix and Flipnote Studio were prototyped. Unfortunately, business is business.
How are they contradictory? I'm okay with the idea of Captain Toad being created and not taking away resources from the next Mario, BUT would still prefer them to create bigger, more important games instead.
Not from this new team, since Hayashida led Galaxy 2 and 3D World. Meaning any new Mario game made by them would follow in those footsteps as opposed to something like Galaxy 1 or a new open world game.
Shikamaru Ninja
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I would speculate, the remaining generation can do without a 3D Mario at this point. Koizumi can easily produce a Mario Galaxy HD Collection (developed externally) and give another IP a shot for the Wii U or the 3DS. Flipnote Studio also seems like a dead IP at this point.
Hayashida's unit also probably has no reason to make a Captain Toad 2 this generation, and I think they've exhausted the NES Remix IP for now.
It kind of seems like some curveballs maybe be coming in 2016 from both units.
CrunchyFrog
Member
Somewhat truth regarding the NSMB series aside, I suppose one finds people of all kinds on GAF.
We really need a proper SM64/Sunshine followup right about now. The linear marios have had plenty of time in the spotlight, give me some real playgrounds to mess around in and explore.
Oh yeah, I know it wasn't like every single person on Captain Toad was someone new, but it's good to see that development started on the next Mario game instead of the devs just sitting around twiddling their thumbs.
Orbis Tabula
Member
This would be cool. Gimme more games like 3d World. One of my favorite Mario games ever.
AcademicSaucer
Member
they only make middleware tho
More studios to produce more quality content of course is a good thing. 
I know I would. After playing the MK8 DLC today (finally!), I am now in full F-Zero withdrawal and only HD online F-Zero can keep me sane. :-(
MAAAAN that would be beautiful.
You and me both man. That game is high on my "Mario Series Tier List" right now, probably my favorite of the 3D games.
I know I would. After playing the MK8 DLC today (finally!), I am now in full F-Zero withdrawal and only HD online F-Zero can keep me sane. :-(
MAAAAN that would be beautiful.
You and me both man. That game is high on my "Mario Series Tier List" right now, probably my favorite of the 3D games.
TheMoon
Member
Because they are making the big new Mario, which is a system seller by nature. So they're doing the thing you want. That's why I'm confused by that post.
dampflokfreund
Banned
That would mean Koizumi isn't directing the new Zelda.
Koizumis talent is so wasted on these Mario games. Koizumi is the writing king, he put all his dream and life stuff in Majoras Mask which makes it so fantastic. Completely wasted on these Mario games without any story. I honestly don't know why they won't put Koizumi in the Zelda team, much more fitting there.
BTW, we don't know if the Skyward Sword Director is directing Zelda U too, thats just speculation and probably wont be true at all
No, no. I'm happy about that. What I mean is that the other teams, should they decide to make a non-Mario game, should be doing something bigger and more aspirational.
TheMoon
Member
Bigger takes longer. Longer is not really a good option right now. If Toad was this supposed new group's debut title, it makes sense to let them get warmed up under Hayashida with a slightly smaller product, I'd say. Churning this out within a year is pretty great for them and for us so we don't have to wait and look at our feet while they make something big as their debut title.
Koizumi wouldn't be writing any Zelda stories either. He's a group producer now. That's below his paygrade.
Koizumi needs to be a part of the next Zelda.
I know we've barely seen anything in Zelda U, but it just screams generic so far. His influence would shake things up a bit but it's probably too late now.
I'm just worried we won't see his influence as much on many games. Dude is golden and not many people know him.
I know we've barely seen anything in Zelda U, but it just screams generic so far. His influence would shake things up a bit but it's probably too late now.
I'm just worried we won't see his influence as much on many games. Dude is golden and not many people know him.
I fail to see what's generic about the little we saw of Zelda Wii U.
When you boil it down, it's essentially Link on a horse in an open field battling an Octorok-type.
Generic (but some might say quintessential) Zelda.
What I saw from Skyward Sword's reveal wasn't that great, either. The premise of games like Spirit Tracks, Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, Ocarina of Time are all great in their own respective rights.
Koizumi's involvement in Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Ocarina of Time are the driving factors I think. You look at his resume, and that's what he's had a direct influence on game design wise.
BeatResetsTheWorld
Banned
Then don't dumb it down and assume you know the premise
you can boil it down, sure, but you are also boiling out all the flavor. Wii U Zelda, from what little we saw, resembles non of the console entries, none.
My whole point was prefaced by saying that we barely knew anything. Literally all the current speculation are assumptions. Don't stifle speculation.
To me, it seems like 2D Zelda in 3D. That's not very exciting to me. The flavour itself is what I have a problem with.
TheMoon
Member
When you dumb it down, everything looks like a squished banana.
King Beyond the wall
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Since it is obvious that third parties have deserted the WiiU, it is the first party of nintendo which must carry the console entirely. More internal teams producing the excellent quality nintendo is known for is a positive, and a necessity in the current situation.
Thanks for the input.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
That's a very plausible speculation.
Mario Galaxy HD collection, accompagnied with Zelda Wii U for Q3 FY16 seems like a safe bet.
I think the next 3D Mario game will be reserved for next generation at launch - Nintendo most likely realized that not releasing at 3D Mario game at both launches of 3DS, and Wii U, was a big mistake.
Would you know the current output or speculation of Intelligent Systems? Seems odd that there has not been any news about a new Fire Emblem game? During the DS era, they used to release one every two years.
Do you have a website that catalogs all of your opinions?
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Because they dont have to do this...atleast not yet because they make games basically exclusively for them anyway.
TheMoon
Member
Did you forget that they have Code Name: S.T.E.A.M. lined up and are probably also involved in some capacity in Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem? Last year they released Game & Wario, Band Brothers P and this year we had Pushmo World. It's not like they have been sitting around since FE: Awakening came out. They surely have something else for either Fire Emblem, Advance Wars or Paper Mario currently cooking, too.
I don"t see that happening at all.
TheMoon
Member
Just to make sure: Q3 FY16 is Q4 ("Holiday") 2015.
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
It's currently the planned release date and they've been working on the game for years now. There's no reason to believe we aren't getting the game next year aside from people trying to use a couple delays in the series' past to justify this game getting pushed back
ratcliffja
Member
Mario Galaxy 2 and 3D Land are 2 of the worst Marios, but they're still very good. More EAD is never a bad thing.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Have I stated otherwise in my post?
My question was clearly in relation to Fire Emblem. I find it odd that Nintendo did not comission a new Fire Emblem following the success of FE:A.
How is he being wasted , The dude is responsible for 3 of the greatest Mario games of all time.
fredrancour
Member
We can check out their recent releases. Going off wikipedia:
pushmo
fe awakening
crashmo
game and wario
band brothers 3ds
pushmo world
codename steam
with any involvement in fe x smt as a question mark in the background.
i guess that looks sort of like one digital/smaller title and one full retail release in the oven at all times?
Holy crap. it's funny to look back and see a time when fire emblem was annual, on top of all other releases.
fe 6: 2002
fe 7: 2003
fe 8: 2004
fe 9: 2005
TheMoon
Member
Have I stated otherwise in my post?
My question was clearly in relation to Fire Emblem. I find it odd that Nintendo did not comission a new Fire Emblem following the success of FE:A.
How do you know they haven't? For all we know they could announce one any time now and release it within a few months in Japan. A new Fire Emblem could basically come out next Spring and it's would be perfectly normal for Nintendo not to say anything about it. A new FE is definitely in the works. Just a matter of when. Maybe they're going for a global release this time, not a 1-year+ delay or they want SMTxFE out first, who knows..
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
I don't understand how you can describe Galaxy 2 like this but not Galaxy 1. They are essentially the same games...the same absolutely glorious games.
Albeit superficially SMG2 is pretty much an add-on level pack for SMG1, those new levels themselves showcase an increasing trend towards levels that are more linear, smaller, and simplistic; a trend that was continued with 3D Land and 3D World. If you prefer doing more than just walking and jumping down the set path down an obstacle course, Mario is offering less and less of it.
GiantEnemyGoomba
Member
Oh man, the game getting pushed to Q3 2016 would cause riots
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Wouldn't we have heard of it, or hints from Intelligent Systems or Nintendo on that front?
Fire Emblem Awakening was announced in 2011 at the Tokyo Gameshow before being released in April of 2012.
I just want a new FE game ;.;
Insane right?