This makes me really excited!
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Facebook has acquired Oculus VR for 2 Billion US Dollars
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This makes me really excited!
unholyrevenger72
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Did this image get posted in the thread yet? Mildly entertaining:
More than mildy
Ooooh I like this a lot.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
The new 'Oculus' from Facebook...
People are in such a rush to be clever and feel like they understand something, the lowest of the low hanging fruit is more than enough.
I actually am a researcher, though that's beside the point.
You are right, we are having a conversation on a internet message board, but this also isn't a conversation about what's for dinner.
We're talking about a company's reputation, and a reputation is largely staked on a company's history. Without knowing some of Facebook's history, it's hard to have a discussion about it.
But you refuse to educate people on what you know, or even prove you've watched the documentary. It's silly.
http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/26/facebook-oculus/
Facebook denies the rumor about rebranding.
I'm still very much on board with Oculus.
Facebook denies the rumor about rebranding.
I'm still very much on board with Oculus.
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Deleted member 22576
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A researcher who can't synthesize a documentary into a message board post...
hehe this is great.
CountAntonius
Member
Whatever Facebook is working on seems to be the big mystery. for me it seems clear this was something they've had in mind for awhile and just seen the OR as a great way to have a say in how fast VR gets adopted into the mainstream. The important thing seems to be they want it out there. Nothing leads me to believe they will close off the platform because they know how everything including gaming will help sell this thing.
Because the hate-mongering position is, in my view, based on irrational bias and is reflective of a sort of mentality in our society that I strongly disagree with. To give an analogy, it would be like a racist slaver saying "I have no problems with people not practicing slavery, why do people have problems with those who do practice slavery?' I don't agree with that sort of moral relativism.
Besides, I don't think you have shown yourself to be any more accepting of people that will do business with them than the other way around. You're arguing your point of view the same way everybody else is. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but others are also entitled to think your opinion is nonsensical or unwarranted, and vice versa.
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The Everyman
mind if i copy your post and start a thread?
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
To be fair, it's not like him and the guy, who refused to watch the link were carrying out a civil discussion beforehand. Cyrano provided someone with a link (who thanked him for the link) and the other guy came in with a drive by insult, demanding that it be summarized. Idk about you, but I wouldn't feel inclined to bend over for that.
How am I refusing to do this by offering up a documentary that synthesizes these arguments? Is it necessary to retread old arguments?
You could just as easily provide research that runs counter to my argument proving that Facebook is a reputable company by providing material yourself. There surely must be articles out there that prove Facebook is reputable if you disagree with my premise that they aren't.
CountAntonius
Member
By all means. You can post up more of the article as well. It's a good read. It will probably be filled with"Yeah, sure buddy" type posts though.
No chance of a mad catz morpheus device? ^_^;
I already know the answer to this.... QQ
Nah, it would be like reading an announcement that Microsoft buys Nintendo.
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The Everyman
lol, ya im aware. but it brought a smile to my face, it might do the same to others.
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
Depressing as fuck to hear about this. It takes a remarkable level of delusion to not think Facebook won't completely fuck everything the OR was supposed to be about. What potential avenues for the revitalization of this stupid industry can we look forward now?
What would be in it for them? They've stated they plan on releasing at or below cost. There's no backend on that investment for PC. They could make money on DS4 sales by pushing out a properly dongled/drivered DS4 for PC, but they don't do that either.
NV has Light Field. Wonder if they plan on going anywhere with it.
I suspected it was something like that. But people overreacted as usual. The comments on reddit towards Palmer, Oculus and Facebook are shameful...I mean some seriously cringe-worthy stuff.
NaughtyCalibur
Member
Okay, I'm 30 minutes into the documentary that everyone is talking about yet hasn't seemed to watch and I'm not quite getting it. If this is supposed to shock and awe me and ruin Facebook's reputation, I must be watching the wrong doc.
What I'm getting out of this is that the advertisement industry has managed to remain ubiquitous through its integration with social media. Facebook; Twitter; Google/YouTube; etc are all "guilty" of this collaboration.
Should I keep watching or did I miss something? I'll admit my attention isn't 100% since I'm watching at work.
What I'm getting out of this is that the advertisement industry has managed to remain ubiquitous through its integration with social media. Facebook; Twitter; Google/YouTube; etc are all "guilty" of this collaboration.
Should I keep watching or did I miss something? I'll admit my attention isn't 100% since I'm watching at work.
lol is that it? If so then I'm more than qualified to talk to Cyrano about it since I've been in Facebook ad pitches many, many times.
Yup and anonymous sources are the definition of reliability.
The biases on display are so incredibly blatant.
It's definitely about this, but it's also about the rather unrepentant exploitation of personal information. I would say that getting children to also effectively do work for you is rather questionable as well.
Yes, but corporations can also tell the truth. I think the best approach here is to be cautiously optimistic.
So far, so good. My DK2 is still preordered, and things appear to be operating as usual.
So why should I believe a non-sourced rumor over multiple real sources saying otherwise?
Bias? That is my first post in the thread, pointing out that a corporation may not be telling the truth.
Elfforkusu
Member
It's good for the CEO, since he doesn't need to keep herding cats.
I'm very, very skeptical about the level of autonomy. Short term? Sure. A year from now? Doubt it.
I don't think reverse engineering will be all that simple.
depends whats on the contract, if he does leave I doubt he would be allowed to go work for another VR company
Biases. Not just you but many others. You had a choice between trusting an anonymous source, a sourced response from a company spokesperson or even not believing either one. You picked the anonymous source. Why?
Elfforkusu
Member
If I have to choose, I'll take the anonymous source every time in that scenario.
PR and doubletalk are joined at the hip. Doesn't matter what company we're talking about.
I believe that non-compete clauses are allowed only in the narrowest of circumstances in the state of CA.
That's illogical.
The only difference is I'm not insulting you and saying you are nonsensical and irrational. I respect your opinion and respect that you will not change your opinion. I do not think you are stupid. I do not want to generalize you because I know you are an individual.
In any case we are all making predictions, positive or negative, they are all possible.
PS I dont really get your analogy, at first glance it's terrible, sorry if I misunderstood.
Really? How is that illogical? Believing company word is never that smart, of course they would only say whatever makes the company look good. People tend to, and should IMO, listen to company actions.
So they paid 19 billion for WhatsApp and a measly 2 billion for Oculus?
LoL if this is true
WhatsApp has 430 million users. OculusVR has 60k+ dev kits.
The ad revenue potential per user for WhatsApp is tremendous, so much so that some people say the WhatsApp purchase could potentially be seen as a bargain.
Yeah that's scary how much the brand racism was blatant since the announcement.
I mean; i do'nt give a shit about facebook, but all those people basically saying "i'd buy this thing, but never if it has facebook written on it" is so weird.. it's like it's a war or something..
Let' wait for the first worrying act to complain.
So they paid 19 billion for WhatsApp and a measly 2 billion for Oculus?
LoL if this is true
People who doesnt understand WhatsApp deal must live in USA, or? Because in Europe everyone with a smartphone uses it. E.g. in germany it has over 30million active users, way more than facebook itself.
Might be. I'm from the US and literally the first time I ever heard of WhatsApp was when Facebook bought the company.
Yep. Whatsapp was a proven technology by the time of its buyout, but even at the investor call discussing the buyout of Oculus Rift, it was clear that the actual market appeal of VR is unknown and that's definitely a sticking point for some investors. Probably why Facebook faced a small downturn in their stock.
This. If you want VR to be the next major platform in order to build a new social platform on it - first you need it to be a huge success. And that'll most definitely be games initially due to early adopters plus the requirement for hardware performance. So even if Facebook have some nefarious plans for VR (and I doubt they do, they are just investing in it) - they'd need to deliver what you want first anyway. So why worry about it? If the comments from Zuckerberg about selling at cost are correct, you could end up with a great gaming headset for less than you expected. Who cares where it goes in the future? Let that evolve naturally
Elfforkusu
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If you say so. Who do we trust more, cboat or Microsoft pr?
Most of the rest of the world use What's app. South America, Europe and all that. They bought the userbase. It's a chatting service more than anything else. But being able to get millions of people who never use Facebook is pretty big.
Exactly. The stock dropped because there isn't a clear cut path to making money on the investment right away. This is something that is going to take time and Facebook and Oculus want to be at the forefront of VR technology.
Instagram and WhatsApp both had established user bases which is why they cost what they did. Oculus VR has an idea and potential. There's no userbase to value since all that is available is Dev kits which only the most enthusiast purchase. They're gambling on Oculus being able to deliver on the idea of great VR and growing a user base rather than buying an existing one.
Why do you feel compelled to choose one or the other?
It has 430 million users; of course it has users in the US. It was a big deal here also.