Ash_Killem
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Angry Joe fucking sucks.. next he will be calling out Sessler for making reviews that are too "wordy"
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Angry Joe gets called out by IGNs review editor for misquoting their Titanfall review
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DyslexicAlucard
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I don't see what his junior status has to do with anything. And I think that's frowned upon here, but I may be wrong.
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To be fair, he is wrong because he is wrong. Saying he was not trying to imply that is just like the IGN guy saying a 8.9 is not reaaaaaaally a 9.0. They're both being too literal when they know that is not how its interpreted.
LiveFromKyoto
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This is going down in the annals of dumb internet arguments as one of the all-time greats.
First i never read IGN which is simply a crappy site but this actually made me question the intelligence of both those people.
Are they seriously arguing over a score and what the h... some unimportant youtuber thinks?
DyslexicAlucard
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I think there's a miscommunication going on here. He's talking about beating all of the side missions in under an hour, ie: getting only an hour of extra content in total. You, on the other hand, are talking about how long a single side mission takes to complete.
fvng
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that's because you're choosing to ignore the legitimate complaints about angry joe
Riposte
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Why doesn't that make sense? Rank 8th out of 10. Scores are categories. Not to say IGN knows how to handle those categories (see: 8.9).
Phreakuency
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And amusing how someone who bitches for a living acts like a 12 year old when someone bitches about him...
LOL at IGN demanding accuracy. These are the idiots who report that you can't see above 720p below 55" because it was 'something they heard'.
Makes their splitting hairs in this case look even more ridiculous. Mr. IGN Editor should try demanding accuracy from his own staff for a change.
Makes their splitting hairs in this case look even more ridiculous. Mr. IGN Editor should try demanding accuracy from his own staff for a change.
This I can agree with.
Especially the people who just waltz in to say something like "omg youtube reviewers with a schtick are teh worst how can nyone like this guy" and not bother to add anything into what little conversation there is to be had.
I think the 0.1 and (p)review quotes are less the main issue and more of a means for what seems to be a clash of personalities. Have these guys interacted before or had previous disagreements? Has Angry Joe been an outspoken critic of IGN? Maybe Joe's video was the straw that broke the camel's back, leading to the call out.
fvng
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That's pretty classy brah, dismissing his post because of his lack of seniority here? He was merely checking to make sure that you played it, maybe it struck him as odd that you would defend a point that you could finish all the SideOps missions in under an hour. Probably set off his bullshit alarm.
I don't think you quite understand what Angry Joe is saying. He's saying ALL THE SIDE OPS can be cumulatively finished in under an hour for a first time player. You seem to think he means under an hour 'per mission'
This is total bullshit on his part, once again he's just pandering to the popular sentiment at the time that the game was a bad value proposition at the expense of accuracy.
In other words speed run. Speedrunning is not representative of the standard playthrough experience.
I am talking about Intel Operative Rescue, the on rails level where you have to rescue Kojima. That entire mission is trial and error, it takes a lot of playthroughs and continues to finish it. You're talking about the VIP assassinate mission, that's another tricky long one if you're not using a guide, you can easily lose the location of the VIPs and then you're trying to locate them again, that happened to me a few times. The likelihood of you getting a perfect run on your first time around without a guide is slim to none
From the context I derived from that post, it was a warning to a junior who is getting in over his head on things that previous people have gotten in trouble for.
God why am I still reading this thread.
Ken Masters
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Ignoring his post and highlighting his junior status as your rebuttal is the lowest form of posting and is basically a spam/troll post
Good Job
Enjoy getting either banned or juniored yourself.
Who says I'm ignoring them?
BabyFaceKillah
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while i get why Dan was upset (it was more than just the 0.1 thing) he should've just ignored Joe
and Joe shouldn't have been such an ass hat and shouldn't have stooped to name calling... he should have just ignored Dan when shit got real..
and Joe shouldn't have been such an ass hat and shouldn't have stooped to name calling... he should have just ignored Dan when shit got real..
Xplatformer
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A little more clarity.
And I'm leaning more towards neither being right, but Joe being less wrong.
Still...obviously this was a good topic. If nothing else it led to more people finding out (for good or bad) about Angry Joe, which in the end will be good for him.
Well, Joe was being Joe. I don't know Dan, but anyone that knows Joe would probably expect Joe to act the way he did. He can be a hot head, and he crass...and sometimes insulting. And in a way...in this instance he handled Dan wrong.
But from what I can tell...Dan started this because he took offense to Joe's opinion on the majority of reviews for Titanfall. Dan too should have been the bigger man (as you mentioned also)
Lord Carnarvon
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The game wasn't amazing for IGN, it was "just" great, so they decided to keep the score between 8 and 8.9, which happens to represent the "great" category. You are welcome, sir.
As simple as that, Gaf.
HI. BILLY MAYS HERE
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Thanks for posting the link I thought I saw him post.
GingerOfEden
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This argument wasn't and won't be a win for anyone. They both need to just drop it and get over it. I understand that the context in which the quote was provided is inaccurate, but it doesn't really matter. I'm not disappointed in the reasons for the argument. I'm disappointed in the ability in which to resort to name calling and personal attacks.
It's interesting how much hate you have for Angry Joe. If you want I can show you how every single human being on Earth isn't perfectly accurate. Also, when you play the accusation game, then provide concrete evidence, such as the time on the video that you saw him say that. Since you heard him say it then you should know when he said it, it would save me some time. Thanks.
His point BTW is still absolutely fucking perfectly valid even if taking into account your nit-picking. Game is too short and buying the game would support this business of selling a demo.
Anyway regarding this IGN thing, who publicly started bad mouthing? The IGN dude. If there is an inaccuracy in the review, just send a private message. No need to fucking accuse Angry Joe of "maliciously misquoting," especially when he was just using random examples of positive things journalists said while ignoring some negatives.
ElectricKaibutsu
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So:
9 = amazing
8 = great
7 = good
6 = bad
5 = bad
4 = bad
3 = bad
2 = bad
1 = bad
I think most are ashamed to say they enjoy IGN, which is pathetic but isn't shocking around here.
Read more like a warning about a rubbish post while being a junior to me. Could be wrong.
I think ghst's post might've gone over your head.
Mr_Appleby
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it's amazing * 0.99, or 99% amazing. Although that works out at 8.91 to be exact, so if we want to be really precise we should say that it scored amazing - (great/(great*10))
Pretty much the same as grading in the US school system. Maybe it's weird to people from other countries but I think it makes a lot of sense, here. That's not really what's at fault, it's more the hilariously small difference between an 8.9 and a 9.0.
staticneuron
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The main complaints that I see, especially from your previous posts, is that Joe is not 100% factual.
Which begs the question.... so what?
If you cannot take a look at joe and realize that he is a character that is made for entertainment purposes, like francis or chad, then you are already focusing on something that is totally irrelevant.
It echoes comments from fox news pundits crying about how the Stephen Colbert misrepresents them or that Jon Stewart may not show the whole picture in a skit. (what, do those guys take this as a joke?!?!)
You cannot character assassinate a fictional character.
The only thing that it comes down to is a guy calling angry joe out and then using the worst possible stances to back up his arguments.
Joe isn't a character. The man is rarely angry outside certain issues (like Xbone DRM) and its just a name.
runnin_blue
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The normal mission is under 2 hours, The average main story playthrough is 1h41 minute. And if you rush it, it's about an hour yes.
The main mission was speedrunned in 5 minute and 41 sec.If you do all the side missions its 5 hours.
People complain about the lenght. Joe gave a really fair review of the game saying that the game is awesome, but the lenght do not justify the price.
Hell, I waited a sale for Gone Home because 3 hours of "normal" play time for 20$ is way too high for a game like that. Gone home can also be speed runned in under 30 sec. That's why people complain.
Heavy_D_Forever
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Angry Joe comes across as a bit of a prick. I work in traditional media where citing your sources is extremely important. The MLB and NFL are strict as fuck and they don't mess around with this stuff.
If I posted something on the web misquoting a team press release or taking it out of context you can bet your ass I'd lose my job.
Lucky for Angry Joe he doesn't have a real job and doesn't deal with real requirements and regulations. He's free to be as much of a jackass as he wants.
If I posted something on the web misquoting a team press release or taking it out of context you can bet your ass I'd lose my job.
Lucky for Angry Joe he doesn't have a real job and doesn't deal with real requirements and regulations. He's free to be as much of a jackass as he wants.
If Dan has an issue with Joe's claims that they over-hyped it, or omitted issues the game had in the review, okay. But arguing with him over a decimal point is silly. And the way Dan handled himself on Twitter over this, is pretty bad. If I were IGN (or any company for that matter), I would not be happy with an employee going off on Twitter the way he does. Plus, this isn't the first time Dan has gone off on Twitter arguing with people over things.
ElectricKaibutsu
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Oh man, are we going to talk about this now? I think that's my cue to mosey.