Ash_Killem
Banned
Angry Joe fucking sucks.. next he will be calling out Sessler for making reviews that are too "wordy"
LBTRecords
Junior Member
(Today, 09:33 PM)
Thanks for the great rebuttal there, dude.
.
To be fair, he is wrong because he is wrong. Saying he was not trying to imply that is just like the IGN guy saying a 8.9 is not reaaaaaaally a 9.0. They're both being too literal when they know that is not how its interpreted.So many "Angry Joe is wrong because I don't like him" posts.
A resume from Joe : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108510153&postcount=803Too many pages, too many opinions.
Can someone give us a short version of this argument along with their opinion of this fiasco? That would help a lot.
Here's the thing that wasn't shown in the OP.
Dan tweets no less than 5 rude sarcastic character attacking tweets directly at my handle & other twitter users before I even reply.
Granted, I was annoyed by that time that the dude who is supposedly a "real" journalist couldn't handle himself more professionally say send me a private message, direct email hell even snail mail. If I needed to make a correction I would have made the correction, I'm open to that if its warranted.
But that's just the thing, none of this was warranted and if someone from IGN wants to throw down and get dirty on twitter what does one goof ball on youtube care? I've a right to defend myself in public when someone is bashing me, especially someone who is representing IGN, wouldn't you?
Basically the dude is upset that I made a point that most major outlets praised the game highly before and even in their reviews, gave the game high marks but yet left out some of the games glaring commissions and issued 9s and 10s anyway. I help make this point by showing some examples on screen while talking about this idea, some of which was ign's "believe the hype" quote from a preview article, their 8.9/10 review score, another outlets 10/10 review score and a full page ad from that same 10/10 review site.
His major points where:
1. IGN issued the game a 8.9 and not a 9/10! Which not only is that the stupidest point to ever make showing how much importance IGN places on stupid decimals between a good game and an amazing game, but the fact is I NEVER said IGN gave it specifically a 9/10, I just said many outlets. His point is invalid.
2. I showed the believe the hype quote which was from a preview and was eventually used by titanfall, EA, and Origin to sell the game, putting it in bold right up there with other review scores from other outlets. If hes mad that I mentioned that perhaps he should be mad with those companies who used that quote from a preview to sell their game not me, again another stupid point to be mad and talk crap about Angry Joe over twitter for. Misdirected frustration it really seems like.
and this is the doosey...
3. Basically he is saying IGN didnt hype up the game, and didnt issue it a high score so im misrepresenting them. Ill leave it up to you whether Believe the Hype and a 8.9/10 is a higher score.
4. Another funny thing is he mentions they do address the many things missing in the game (for example no private matches at launch) yet its addressed in the most vague general way passingly, yet despite all the games short comings and lack of content BOOM 8.9, because darn you respawn and EA so much is missing so deduction of 0.1 is in order from that coveted IGN 9.0! LOL.
Im sorry but I couldnt believe the dude picked me to get upset at over this. Then he puts the icing on the cake with this: https://twitter.com/DanStapleton/sta...64308811026432
"Fun math fact: IGN has 4x the YouTube followers Joe does."
Sure they do Dan, they are also a multi million dollar company with 400 employees who all keep it running where as im 1 guy, seriously 1 frigging dude youtube wearing all different hats to get everything done just barely. How can I seriously hope to compete and why am I a target of IGN?
Maybe this?
i.imgur.com/nyDugib.jpg
So, I saw a rather interesting discussion on my timeline today.
I'm sure some of you remember IGNs Titanfall hands-on article, it's the one where they mentions things like:
Now, my question to GAF is: is IGNs Review Editor making too big of a deal out of this? Is he overreacting? Or did Angry Joe really make a mistake when using these examples? There's more tweets to be found at their twitter pages, but it really is a lot.
Yes you can. I beat EACH of the side missions in under an hour. 30-58 mins is still under an hour, blind. Did I get a "good grade"/A-S rank? No. But if you don't give a shit about that, you CAN beat each of the missions in under an hour.
So many "Angry Joe is wrong because I don't like him" posts.
"8 is a category"
LOL, no, it's a number.
Watched the video (ugh Angry Joe videos are unbearable)
That was it? IGN guy made an argument out of nothing. lol It's pretty amusing how seriously most of the 'Game Journalist' circle take themselves.
Dan is upset because Joe quoted a preview in the context of talking about reviews. IGN considers previews to be so different from reviews that confusing the two (whether purposely or not) is the same as lying. Of course, with a review you have more time to get into a game and really pick apart the details. You don't even know if what you play in a preview setting will be completely representative of the final game. But even so, you would imagine the point of a preview is to give gamers a balanced look at how a game is shaping up. What is the point of one otherwise?
http://abload.de/img/believe7pk2h.png[IMG]
Oh right. IGN previews are written to get fans hyped for games so they'll keep coming back to IGN for coverage. It's all BS and fluff. Really, look at that quote, it's [I]all[/I] BS. And Dan believes they can wash their hands of it because it says "Preview" at the top instead of "Review".
AngryJoe was technically in the wrong, but the only reason he was called on it was because Dan was embarrassed that an IGN preview was held up as something to be considered real journalism.[/QUOTE]
Pretty much my feelings as well. IGN set themselves up for this with their rubbish preview.
i don't think anyone comes out of this thread looking well.
LBTRecords
Junior Member
(Today, 09:33 PM)
Thanks for the great rebuttal there, dude.
Yes you can. I beat EACH of the side missions in under an hour. 30-58 mins is still under an hour, blind. Did I get a "good grade"/A-S rank? No. But if you don't give a shit about that, you CAN beat each of the missions in under an hour.
Portal is a horrible example because the levels themselves can or can not be beaten in minutes due to player ability. Meanwhile, Ground Zeroes LETS you use/abuse Reflex and run through levels with spotting and a silenced killing gun. Anyone sees you? Shoot them in the head with the killing gun, grab the two VIPs in Ground Zeroes or the mission objectives and run like hell to the extract.
No you don't. VIP Assassinate is only tricky blind to that fake-out. If you run to VIP A. You get the mission update. If you Rush B, he doesn't change at all and even then he's where he says he's supposed to be. Which then leaves you with scanning with the binocs for A.
That's pretty classy brah, dismissing his post because of his lack of seniority here? He was merely checking to make sure that you played it, maybe it struck him as odd that you would defend a point that you could finish all the missions in under an hour. Probably set off his bullshit alarm.
LBTRecords
Junior Member
(Today, 09:33 PM)
Thanks for the great rebuttal there, dude.
LBTRecords
Junior Member
(Today, 09:33 PM)
Thanks for the great rebuttal there, dude.
that's because you're choosing to ignore the legitimate complaints about angry joe
A resume from Joe : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108510153&postcount=803
and Joe shouldn't have been such an ass hat and shouldn't have stooped to name calling... he should have just ignored Dan when shit got real..
Could someone for the love of all that is good in this world explain to me the difference between an 8.9 and a 9.0?
A resume from Joe : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=108510153&postcount=803
Oh he's so fearless! Not afraid to step to the man!
No, he said all the side ops can be cleared in under an hour, WATCH HIS REVIEW. Your adoration of Angry Joe is preventing you from admitting that he's a disingenuous guy. You prefer entertaining to accurate.
So:The game wasn't amazing for IGN, it was "just" great, so they decided to keep the score between 8 and 8.9, which happens to represent the "great" category. You are welcome, sir.
As simple as that, Gaf.
This thread is so sad. If you like Angry Joe, then you like his content. If you like IGN, then you like they're content. Just because you don't like one side doesn't mean the other is completely wrong. They both handled this poorly.
Enjoy getting either banned or juniored yourself.
Ignoring his post and highlighting his junior status as your rebuttal is the lowest form of posting and is basically a spam/troll post
Good Job
Wow. Spot on. His Xbox One rants were superb.
8.9 is gramazing it's totally different
So:
9 = amazing
8 = great
7 = good
6 = bad
5 = bad
4 = bad
3 = bad
2 = bad
1 = bad
that's because you're choosing to ignore the legitimate complaints about angry joe
If you cannot take a look at joe and realize that he is a character that is made for entertainment purposes, like francis or chad, then you are already focusing on something that is totally irrelevant.
This is going down in the annals of dumb internet arguments as one of the all-time greats.
You can finish portal in about 20 minutes if you know what you're doing, so what? The normal play time on Portal is approximately 6 hours for a first timer.
You cannot finish all the side op missions in under an hour, specifically not on your first run through and when you're not using a guide. That's disingenuous as fuck. He's just pandering to the popular opinion by echoing the popular sentiment at the time.
I agree with IGN guy on this.
Oh man, are we going to talk about this now? I think that's my cue to mosey.Angry Joe comes across as a bit of a prick. I work in traditional media where citing your sources is extremely important. The MLB and NFL are strict as fuck and they don't mess around with this stuff.
If I posted something on the web misquoting a team press release or taking it out of context you can bet your ass I'd lose my job.
Lucky for Angry Joe he doesn't have a real job and doesn't deal with real requirements and regulations. He's free to be as much of a jackass as he wants.