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[Aquamarine]

Never mind.

 

[ascii42]

Thanks so probably safe to assume 46M at least for PS2. Not sure 360 has another 4 million left in its tank in the US

The 360 is selling around what the PS2 was when we stopped getting numbers for it, so not unless it has much better legs than the PS2 did from here on out.

 

[theprodigy]

RE: Nintendo:

Mario Kart is catnip for casuals. Smash Bros. is crack for (a lot of) hardcore gamers. These are two of the few aces Nintendo has left (maybe even the only two, right now) but I can actually see them change things around for Nintendo if they push them correctly (cheap bundles, etc.).

What do you think the chances are for Nintendo of getting in second place this gen?

I dunno, what are the chances the Xbox One gets discontinued before the end of this year?

With the small userbase, I fully expect a ridiculously high attach rate for Mario Kart.

I don't, given other games like Super Mario 3D World haven't (and before someone pulls Nintendo shipment figures, look at the actual Media Create/NPD sales).

 

[illmatic22]

This month, Nintendo (the publisher) derived 29% of its software revenues from Wii U.

Software revenue (dollars) is down by -16.5% from last year.


3DS is down from 230K last year to 159K.

Wii U is barely up from 68K last year to 70K.

Wii is down from 91K last year to 28K.

DS is down from 86K last year to dead.


Now you see why they didn't do a PR statement. It's hard to spin those results. :-(

Damn. What the fuck Iwata.

 

[Portugeezer]

So will we get any Sony PR?

 

[Aquamarine]

Never mind.

 

[Aquamarine]

The 360 is selling around what the PS2 was when we stopped getting numbers for it, so not unless it has much better legs than the PS2 did from here on out.

You're not missing much. PS2 has been dead since 2012.

So will we get any Sony PR?

This is the only PR we're going to get:

 

[Otakumegane]

Man Nintendo needs a solution and fast. they are just bleeding money with little to no revenue coming in.

Hopefully QoL takes off. (But not too much so they don't focus all their resources on that. That would be awful for me.)

 

[Mackins]

Didn't the PS2 end up between 53 and 54 million in the US?

 

[Heshinsi]

This. It has hurt sony, though, not having that iconic IP of their own that helps when other things fail. See Mario or Halo.

Gran Turismo is that iconic brand. Hard to make a GTR your platform mascot though lol

 

[ascii42]

Gran Turismo is that iconic brand. Hard to make a GTR your platform mascot though lol

Should have put one in PSABR. Hey, Sega figured out how to put a car in a fighting game...sort of.

 

[bigboss370]

There's a couple ways to grow mindshare of your platform, and one of the ways is having exclusive 3rd party titles. I just think it's a worthwhile move for Sony to consider again, now that it looks like it can be affordable.

yeah, because sony's the one that needs to grow ps4 mindshare >_>


not saying 3rd party exclusive titles are bad, just saying the money could be spent in other, better ways.

 

[HueyFreeman]

Just bought GEX, regretted it immediately on firing it up lol. Memories best left untouched I suppose.

 

[prag16]

I dunno, what are the chances the Xbox One gets discontinued before the end of this year?



I don't, given other games like Super Mario 3D World haven't (and before someone pulls Nintendo shipment figures, look at the actual Media Create/NPD sales).

What the.. you don't consider SM3DW's attach rate to be high? (And no I'm not talking about Nintendo's shipped figures.)

And historically Kart gets a higher attach rate than any mainline mario games (2D or 3D).

 

[dreamer3kx]

Just bought GEX, regretted it immediately on firing it up lol. Memories best left untouched I suppose.

Ha, shouldve checked out some vids to remember those days, I find it hard to play those games these days unless its something like vagrant story or FF.

 

[theprodigy]

What the.. you don't consider SM3DW's attach rate to be high? (And no I'm not talking about Nintendo's shipped figures.)

And historically Kart gets a higher attach rate than any mainline mario games (2D or 3D).

I assume "ridiculously high attach rate" is supposed to mean a higher one than its predecessors, not simply on par.

 

[iamvin22]

RE: Nintendo:

Mario Kart is catnip for casuals. Smash Bros. is crack for (a lot of) hardcore gamers. These are two of the few aces Nintendo has left (maybe even the only two, right now) but I can actually see them change things around for Nintendo if they push them correctly (cheap bundles, etc.).

What do you think the chances are for Nintendo of getting in second place this gen?

my answer

casuals have moved on to mobile/ tablet. mk8 will do no where near what it did on wii.

 

[pooptest]

Thanks so probably safe to assume 46M at least for PS2. Not sure 360 has another 4 million left in its tank in the US

The exception is a plethora of X360 sales were people too annoyed / lazy to deal with getting their RRoD repaired so just went out and bought a new one. 54% failure rate was the polled #. Or bought a newer one (Falcon, or whatever the name was).

Then again, I know people that bought the PS2 multiple times; mainly the mini one to use as a DVD player.

 

[prag16]

I assume "ridiculously high attach rate" is supposed to mean a higher one than its predecessors, not simply on par.

I'm pretty sure SM3DW has a higher attach rate at this point than either Galaxy game, by a wide margin. With NSMBW it's probably closer.

The small user base very likely has a higher percentage of diehard Nintendo fans than the Wii (or 3DS for that matter) base.

I could easily see an attach rate north of 40% after a few months as at least a possibility on the table, which would be I believe somewhat higher than MKWii's attach rate (albeit including some heavy bundling late in the lifespan).

 

[Version 3.0]

Didn't the PS2 end up between 53 and 54 million in the US?

That's more likely a "North America" figure. No way it made it to 50m in the US.

 

[theprodigy]

I'm pretty sure SM3DW has a higher attach rate at this point than either Galaxy game, by a wide margin. With NSMBW it's probably closer.

The small user base very likely has a higher percentage of diehard Nintendo fans than the Wii (or 3DS for that matter) base.

I could easily see an attach rate north of 40% after a few months as at least a possibility on the table, which would be I believe somewhat higher than MKWii's attach rate (albeit including some heavy bundling late in the lifespan).

Predecessors as in N64/GC, aka the ones that are more similar to Wii U.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

This month, Nintendo (the publisher) derived 29% of its software revenues from Wii U.

Software revenue (dollars) is down by -16.5% from last year.


3DS is down from 230K last year to 159K.

Wii U is barely up from 68K last year to 70K.

Wii is down from 91K last year to 28K.

DS is down from 86K last year to dead.


Now you see why they didn't do a PR statement. It's hard to spin those results. :-(

Nintendo sales numbers make me sad... Hope they can recover a bit with Mario Kart at least.

 

[Mackins]

That's more likely a "North America" figure. No way it made it to 50m in the US.

You're right, I think the person who wrote it did write NA actually. My bad.

 

[ascii42]

You're right, I think the person who wrote it did write NA actually. My bad.

What we have for US PS2 is 45.8 million + whatever it sold after March 2010, which aqua says isn't much.

 

[BoboBrazil]

This month, Nintendo (the publisher) derived 29% of its software revenues from Wii U.

Software revenue (dollars) is down by -16.5% from last year.


3DS is down from 230K last year to 159K.

Wii U is barely up from 68K last year to 70K.

Wii is down from 91K last year to 28K.

DS is down from 86K last year to dead.


Now you see why they didn't do a PR statement. It's hard to spin those results. :-(

Their whole business is failing, yet they continue to keep Iwata employed. I would like to feel sorry for them, but they deserve what they get when they refuse to adapt or listen to market trends.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

This month, Nintendo (the publisher) derived 29% of its software revenues from Wii U.

Software revenue (dollars) is down by -16.5% from last year.


3DS is down from 230K last year to 159K.

Wii U is barely up from 68K last year to 70K.

Wii is down from 91K last year to 28K.

DS is down from 86K last year to dead.


Now you see why they didn't do a PR statement. It's hard to spin those results. :-(

But, there is a silver lining to all of this.

When I go to Uni I'm getting a WiiU so I can make friends and have good party games.

So they have that going for them.

 

[Coolwhip]

Aquamarine, what is the meaning of life?

 

[Mr_Antimatter]

Ha, shouldve checked out some vids to remember those days, I find it hard to play those games these days unless its something like vagrant story or FF.

The crash games hold up pretty well as well. but many of the early 3d ones...are painful.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

Aquamarine, what is the meaning of life?

VITA

 

[A_Gorilla]

Aquamarine, what is the meaning of life?

To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women.

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Just bought GEX, regretted it immediately on firing it up lol. Memories best left untouched I suppose.

It's it that bad?

 

[Aquamarine]

But, there is a silver lining to all of this.

When I go to Uni I'm getting a WiiU so I can make friends and have good party games.

So they have that going for them.

I was one of those 425,134 people in the USA who bought the Wii U in its launch month.

16 months later, I've gotten many times more than my money's worth out of it.

A great purchase if you love Nintendo games.

 

[kswiston]

Did that guy from last month who was calling for a 2:1 victory for XB1 in March ever post in this thread?

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I was one of those 425,134 people in the USA who bought the Wii U in its launch month.

16 months later, I've gotten many times more than my money's worth out of it.

A great purchase if you love Nintendo games.

I don't give a shit about Nintendo games.

I just want some human contact.

 

[theprodigy]

I was one of those 425,134 people in the USA who bought the Wii U in its launch month.

16 months later, I've gotten many times more than my money's worth out of it.

A great purchase if you love Nintendo games.

Wait a sec
you can give out exact numbers like that?

 

[GoofsterStud]

Microsoft is going to be silent on hardware. They always have been. Shouldn't expect any different this time around.

Huh?

Anyone remember the why the Xbox 360 is superior to the PS3 article by Major Nelson. The constant updates about the numbers sold! Maybe someone remembers the talk about the first to 10 million wins the wars...

What alternate reality is this post from?

 

[allan-bh]

Aqua, can you check if Titanfall without bundle actually sold 865k?

 

[Heshinsi]

I wonder if MS will ever make money on a console. Seems like they are in a big hole right now with the XB1 and will have to cut price and spend more in the future.

Nadella should just cut the entire branch.

I believe they made with X360.

Has the Xbox devision made back the the $4 billion or so they lost on the original Xbox, and whatever they lost on the RROD fiasco?

 

[Road]

Do we know how the Wii sold in Jan and Feb?

Well, using 40k each, as a guess:

NPD total after 89 months:

PS2: 41.77m
Wii: 41.68m

Only now it has fallen behind the PS2 launch aligned.

(According to the NPD numbers I have, which may be outdated, but whatever...)


Wii has the best first 12 months of a home console, with 5.05 million (PS2 2nd best, 4.1m).

PS4 is at 2.91 million, with 7 months left, meaning it needs to average 306k per month to match the Wii. Not easy.

As discussed before, Xbox One owners buy more physical software, despite the more expensive hardware.

The XBO jumped ahead of the Wii U, 2 months after the PS4 did it:

 

[SuperEpicGuy]

Good for sony. The ps4 can't be stopped.

Wonder how the Xbox 2 and ps5 will start off. Now both makers had less than successful launches so it will be interesting to see the approach that they will take.

 

[Jomjom]

Microsoft PR:

"With Xbox One and Xbox 360 combined, the Xbox platform sold the most games across all console platforms with 4.1 million games sold. Xbox One sold 1.4 million games in March and Xbox 360 sold 2.7 million, totaling 49 percent of the total software market share (Xbox 360 and Xbox One combined). "

I wonder why they combined when it seems like all xbox consoles outsold their competition software wise in their respective console generations.

 

[allan-bh]

Do we know how the Wii sold in Jan and Feb?

39k in february. January I don't know exactly, is somewhere below 20k.

 

[GoofsterStud]

Please stop showing charts comparing shipped vs sold. It's embarrassing. That's for sloppy journalists. If your comparing hardware at least use one that gives an accurate picture like:

Took me awhile -- got sidetracked by real life.

Last version. =P

 

[theprodigy]

Please stop showing charts comparing shipped vs sold. It's embarrassing. That's for sloppy journalists. If your comparing hardware at least use one that gives an accurate picture like:

who are you talking to

 

[Heshinsi]

Ok, so ps4 is the obvious winner. But xbone sales are not bad at all, and are clearly way above wii u. Ms will stay in 2nd place this gen and will make money. I don't see what the big deal is and why it's so shocking? I mean, ps4 has had more hype and positive press since feb 2013, nothing is going to stop that. The real loser here is Nintendo as far as I can see. Their presence is totally non existent on this npd yet everyone is focused on how bad ms is doing. A huh...

I beg to differ. 3.9M of the announced 5M shipped, came into retail in the first month. They then proceeded to ship 1.1M over the span of 3 and a half months. Take out the launch month+1 week, and I don't see how anyone can say they're doing good. As of YTD, Microsoft is shipping to retail in one quarter what the PS4 sells to consumers in about a month. In the same time frame in 2006, Microsoft shipped 1.7M x360 consoles. When did the X360 stop being supply constrained? Cause I think at that particular juncture, YTD versus the X1 at the same time frame will start to become pretty interesting.

 

[Darksol]

Man, I think this is the best NPD we'll see for years.

 

[LilWayneSuckz]

Man, I think this is the best NPD we'll see for years.

I think the NPD where Microsoft drops the price of the XB1 to $399 will be just as interesting.

 

[Darksol]

I think the NPD where Microsoft drops the price of the XB1 to $399 will be just as interesting.

It'll be fun, but expected. Truly great NPDs have an element of surprise or an unexpected result.

 

[Tsundere]

I think the NPD where Microsoft drops the price of the XB1 to $399 will be just as interesting.

Only if PS4 still outsells it, otherwise it's expected.