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Digital Foundry: Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn Face-Off (PS3/PS4/PC)

Vashetti

Banned
Square Enix handed in a solid MMORPG with Final Fantasy 14 Online: A Realm Reborn, despite a gruelling two-year development period that saw the original game rebuilt and radically redesigned with a new engine, gameplay systems and network infrastructure. We've already covered the PC and PS3 versions of the game extensively, but now there's a PS4 version in town. Freed from the shackles of seven-year-old hardware, does it mean console players can finally enjoy the same polished experience available on PC?

Previously, producer/director Naoki Yoshida has said that the developers were targeting a native 1080p presentation for this PS4 version, with similar graphics quality to the PC version running on maximum settings. Taking a look at the framebuffer, we can indeed confirm a full HD resolution, backed up by a fairly standard FXAA implementation.

Image quality is a match for the PC version, right down to the slight texture blur and shimmering across sub-pixel elements of the scene. The pixel precision afforded by 1080p ensures scenery and characters in the near field appear reasonably clean and well-presented, although it fails to prevent the appearance of jaggies elsewhere.

A Realm Reborn on PS4 was also supposed to be targeting a consistent 60fps frame-rate, but the final version of Realm Reborn actually comes with an unlocked frame-rate (capped at 60Hz) and the goal of keeping things north of 30fps. It's a similar set-up to Square Enix stable-mate Tomb Raider: Definitive Edition, and suggests the game is more demanding to run than its origins on ageing hardware might imply.

Looking closely through the shots in our Final Fantasy 14 triple-format comparison gallery, the only real difference between the PS4 and PC is the visibly lower level of anisotropic filtering on Sony's console. The PC version operates with 16x AF in our shots, while reduced effect on PS4 leads to texture details becoming blurred when viewed from sharp angles, although otherwise the artwork remains relatively crisp and clear.

Another key graphical advantage over last-gen is the way assets are handled on PS4 and PC as you explore the expansive environments. Level-of-detail transitions are far less aggressive, and as a result characters and the surrounding scenery are less prone to culling at a distance. Small bushes, fences and other objects are clearly visible on the horizon, resulting in a world that feels more alive and detailed when you gaze across the landscape.

Of course, the vast technical upgrade over the PS3 version is perhaps to be expected, but more impressive perhaps is the lengths to which Square Enix has gone in integrating the PS4's unique features. Basic DualShock 4 functionality is similar way to PS3 version, although there are more Cross Hotbar customisation options, but the touchpad really helps, putting a decent replacement for a PC mouse at the tip of your finger.

More: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-final-fantasy-14-ps4-face-off
 

Hasney

Member
I'm surprised they didn't mention or test the resolution option in the settings. Due to having a 720p TV, I usually play on the lower resolution and I'm assuming I get a better framerate out of it. Very surprised they missed it off.
 

Vashetti

Banned
I'm surprised they didn't mention or test the resolution option in the settings. Due to having a 720p TV, I usually play on the lower resolution and I'm assuming I get a better framerate out of it. Very surprised they missed it off.

Doesn't surprise me.

Just the other week they reported that FFX/X-2 HD on PS3 was only 720p because they didn't have their PS3 set to display in 1080p, lol
 
Been playing the PS4 version since it came out now and I've only noticed frame rate drops when I look up in Southern Thanalan at the mountains.
 

madmackem

Member
Asking for consistent framerate on a MMORPG...

Can't be more clueless than that.
Yeah shits insane, the fact it keeps a decent clip when there's 100 or so people on screen is testament to the job they did on this port, I remember have frame nose dives on wow on my beefy PC when in city's etc.
 
I'm digging this game in a way I wasn't sure I would. The last MMO I played and the only one I ever played for long was WoW.

This game has evolved a bit beyond WoW. A lot more personal story. The job system is brilliant, IMHO. Crafting is more fun and I'm just finding out there are crafting quests so you don't have to make an ever loving shit ton of useless pieces. I think....I think I may subscribe to this game.
 

Yaoibot

Member
Is this game worth buying? People enjoying it yeah?

I just resubbed, but haven't had the chance to play it yet. I'm dreading importing (screencaps to actual input) all my PC>PS4 macros and gearsets. All of that shit should be stored server-side for a cross-platform game.

More to the point, its the most polished theme-park MMORPG to hit the market in years. Kind of like a WOW+++. Don't expect much more than a gear-grind come endgame though. They have PVP in the game now too, but its a token effort. No doubt more content is coming over time. Definitely a nice time-waster for a few months until you get burned out or bored. And man, is it ever pretty. Glorious to look at.

In 1080p on PS4 the only FPS dips you'll really see is when you hit up a crazy-full FATE. But even with a SLI GPU setup I still get that in online games. They did a spectacular job with the PS4 port.
 
The game is really sharp, I'm surprised how good it looks, feels like a ultra setting pc game ported 1:1 to PS4.

Asking for consistent framerate on a MMORPG...

Can't be more clueless than that.

lol indeed

Is this game worth buying? People enjoying it yeah?

It's my first real mmo since a brief period with runescape, I like it so far. Reminds me of FF12, combat is alike, city reminds me of Rabanastre, music is good. So far much better than XIII imo.
 
Been playing the PS4 version since it came out now and I've only noticed frame rate drops when I look up in Southern Thanalan at the mountains.

I definitely noticed it in the beta, even just in the city. Running around the top level of limsa lominsa and the big field outside of zephyr gate, I had slow down every now and again, although it seems mostly spontaneous, and elss when there was specifically many on the screen. That said, I thought the game looked great, and it wasn't detrimental to the experience, especially since there's no twitch gameplay. I'll definitely ge tthe game at some point. Probably my only complaint visually was it seemed like there was a sharpness filter on or something, that made the game a little harsh on the eyes at times, but I didn't fiddle with settings, perhaps that's easily remedied.
 
I've been wondering how this game is playing out. I used to be addicted to the original FF online (the PS2 game) and really wanted to know if it's worth the monthly sub.
 

Blackthorn

"hello?" "this is vagina"
"...on our decent but not spectacular PC - an Intel Core i5 and GTX 680 - comes close to delivering the solid-60fps gold standard..."
The 680 is quite a stride ahead of "decent".
 

erawsd

Member
Nice. I still wonder if the PS3 version will be a detriment in the long run, similar to the limitations the PS2 imposed on FFXI.
 

Vashetti

Banned
Nice. I still wonder if the PS3 version will be a detriment in the long run, similar to the limitations the PS2 imposed on FFXI.

They've said they will support the PS3 version up to the first expansion.

I imagine eventually they will discontinue PS3 support so they can overhaul and upgrade elements of the game that were held back.

The PS3-to-PS4 free upgrade (until the end of this year) is probably part of this.
 

Caayn

Member
Looking at the videos, seems like the PS4 runs at double the framerate of the PS3 version did. Shame about the lower AF though.

Must be hard to come up with proper tests for an MMO, applaud DF for trying it. Still would've like to see them test the different resolutions against each other.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I've got a GTX 770 and a PS4. Seems like it doesn't matter which version I pick? I prefer playing games on my couch with a controller. Does the PC version control scheme work like the PS4? I'd prefer buying on PC, if all else equal, I think.
 

TheD

The Detective
That framerate video show the PS4 version south of 30FPS a lot, even with not much going on.
 

KKRT00

Member
I've got a GTX 770 and a PS4. Seems like it doesn't matter which version I pick? I prefer playing games on my couch with a controller. Does the PC version control scheme work like the PS4? I'd prefer buying on PC, if all else equal, I think.

PS4 drops to 20's in combat.

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A 770 is a rebranded 680 with a slight overclock.

Its still faster by 15%. 760 is closer in performance to 680, than 680 to 770.
 

Anteater

Member
I've got a GTX 770 and a PS4. Seems like it doesn't matter which version I pick? I prefer playing games on my couch with a controller. Does the PC version control scheme work like the PS4? I'd prefer buying on PC, if all else equal, I think.

The PC version allows a controller and lets you choose between 360 and PS3 button display in its options, so it's the same control scheme as PS3 (I have never played with the ps4 version so I don't know anything about its touch pad functionality), so yeah interms of controls you can't really go wrong because they should be pretty similar.
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
PS4 drops to 20's in combat.

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Its still faster by 15%. 760 is closer in performance to 680, than 680 to 770.

The PC version allows a controller and lets you choose between 360 and PS3 button display in its options, so it's the same control scheme as PS3 (I have never played with the ps4 version so I don't know anything about its touch pad functionality), so yeah interms of controls you can't really go wrong because they should be pretty similar.

Thanks. PC it is, then.
 

2San

Member
Its still faster by 15%. 760 is closer in performance to 680, than 680 to 770.
I doubt that, considering how easy it is to overclock the 680. Remember that benchmarks for the 680 can be outdated, because of outdated drivers. On the same clockspeeds and same drivers they pretty much perform the same. And no the 770 doesn't overclock further than 680 on average afaik.
 
PS4 drops to 20's in combat.

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Its still faster by 15%. 760 is closer in performance to 680, than 680 to 770.

That is just false. I've participated in large fates with 20+ players and 10+ mobs simultaneously and the PS4 barely loses frames at all.
 
I've got a GTX 770 and a PS4. Seems like it doesn't matter which version I pick? I prefer playing games on my couch with a controller. Does the PC version control scheme work like the PS4? I'd prefer buying on PC, if all else equal, I think.

Same here, ps4 and 770. I think your 770 will give you more frames, and more particularly, consistency, but eh, it's not a deal breaker or anything. Just go with which you want more :)

It definitely did drop to the 20s sometimes during my beta experience, that is not debatable. As I mentioned previously though, I wouldn't say it was consistently during combat or down to number sof player, it just seemed random. Being an open beta, it might even have been the server being a little rocky, I have no idea if that could even be a contributing factor or not.
 

TheD

The Detective
That is just false. I've participated in large fates with 20+ players and 10+ mobs simultaneously and the PS4 barely loses frames at all.

If you looked at the article it has hard data that it does drop to less than 30 FPS in combat.
 

stryke

Member
That is just false. I've participated in large fates with 20+ players and 10+ mobs simultaneously and the PS4 barely loses frames at all.

Who knows what you experienced. We're just going off the video in the article and busy battles certainly run in the 20s. Lighter ones seem to do the occasional dip sub-30 as well.
 
I remember when people were quite afraid the 680 wouldn't be able to keep up with these new consoles before they came out. Now this 2-year old card is "quite a stride ahead of decent".

It's funny how expectations change.
 

omonimo

Banned
I remember when people were quite afraid the 680 wouldn't be able to keep up with these new consoles before they came out. Now this 2-year old card is "quite a stride ahead of decent".

It's funny how expectations change.

Uh? Expectations of what exactly? I don't think what did you said has sense at all.
 
That is just false. I've participated in large fates with 20+ players and 10+ mobs simultaneously and the PS4 barely loses frames at all.
Um.. no. Crystal Tower is regularly in the 20s.

Anyway, my PC can run this at mostly 60 but I still prefer the PS4 version due to ease of use and the ability to quickly minimize to browse/watch youtube/etc. With the PC I have to use my phone to emulate the mkb.

But when it comes to dungeons Ive started hopping on to the PC version instead.
 

also

Banned
That is just false. I've participated in large fates with 20+ players and 10+ mobs simultaneously and the PS4 barely loses frames at all.

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MechaX

Member
If you looked at the article it has hard data that it does drop to less than 30 FPS in combat.

In large FATEs, sure. I can definitely see that (although, even in crazy Dragonhead fates, it is still infinitely more playable than the PS3 version).

Too bad the comparison mentions absolutely nothing about how the game runs in dungeons and primal fights, which is definitely information that would have been useful in the article.
 

Griss

Member
I tried the PS4 beta and enjoyed it, it's just hard/impossible to talk to other players with a controller, so I'd probably rather play it on a PC. Unfortunately I don't have one.
 

TheD

The Detective
In large FATEs, sure. I can definitely see that (although, even in crazy Dragonhead fates, it is still infinitely more playable than the PS3 version).

Too bad the comparison mentions absolutely nothing about how the game runs in dungeons and primal fights.

The framerate video clearly show it dropping all over the place, in small fights and even out of combat with not much going on.
 

Vashetti

Banned
I tried the PS4 beta and enjoyed it, it's just hard/impossible to talk to other players with a controller, so I'd probably rather play it on a PC. Unfortunately I don't have one.

Plug in a USB keyboard, or hook up a wireless one.

Works beautifully.
 
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