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Iwata's approval up 3%, Miyamoto's down 6%, everyone else slightly to fairly down
- Thread starter Aquamarine
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I wouldn't compare Miyamoto to Walt either. Miyamoto can actually be credited for his ideas, and he isn't a paranoid racist antisemitic jerk face.
Lighten up, the Disney/Miyamoto comparison isn't that big of a deal. There are some similarities to be had.
Wow, you really believe all the myths about that stuff huh? Walt can be credited for his ideas too. Hell, his first characters, like Oswald the lucky rabbit were stolen from him by Universal. You should educate yourself before making foolish sounding posts like that.
I don't think the Starfox he is planning will cut it for most of the people that kept asking for it all this years. From what I've read most people that wanted Starfox to return wanted an up to date fully produced grand scale successor to Starfox 64. What Miyamoto seems to be preparing are several small games or a chapter-based game that mostly focuses on channeling gameplay ideas for the Gamepad, like Guard or Giant Robo. Given that Miyamoto works with small teams and want to finish it in 1 year I don't think it is going to be the furry space opera with great graphics and intense purist gameplay the audience want it to be. If I'm right that would just add to the long stablished decline in Starfox games quality and sales and probably killing the brand for quite a while.
MisterGrey3000
Member
Ub Iwerks probably had more to do with the creation of characters like Oswald and Mickey than Walt did.
Disney didn't have a creative bone in his lily white body.
StreetsAhead
Member
I fail to see how Miyamoto's performance (and approval) as an elected member of the Board of Directors and his input into Sticker Star are related in any meaningful way. I mean, if you want to hold a grudge for it, go ahead, but saying he deserved this drop of approval this year because of a game released in 2012 is laughably petty.
Cosmonaut X
Member
I'd love to see an alternate GAFholders Meeting purely for stuff like that.
"Remember when your company said stuff years ago about gamers in darkened rooms? Well, I do..."
*BZZZZZTTTT*
++APPROVAL RATING 10.23%++
StreetsAhead
Member
I mean, really.
Sticker Star is, far as I can tell, the 2nd best selling Paper Mario game and probably will overtake the Wii one this year, too. If anything, Miyamoto's rating should be up because of it, at least from an investors point of view.
Maybe that's going to far
Fourth Storm
Member
I'm not terribly surprised. Iwata outlined a decent (if vague) plan to control costs in the short term and recover the company in the medium and long term. It may not work, but he has a plan and it's a better one than just "copy Sony."
Miyamoto deserves some criticism for the delays in Wii U software. There's no excuse for not anticipating the difficulties in transitioning to HD when literally every other developer without PC programming experience faced them.
Miyamoto deserves some criticism for the delays in Wii U software. There's no excuse for not anticipating the difficulties in transitioning to HD when literally every other developer without PC programming experience faced them.
Nintendo have a 48.45% foreign ownership. Most of that would be "Western companies", and clearly most of those are voting for Iwata and everyone else on the board.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Hey, how many people do you think still believe that they served Walt "On the rocks"?
"WHEN'S MOTHER THREE"
"Like, a virtual console release?"
"NO THE ACTUAL GBA VERSION WHEN DOES THAT COME OUT YOU ASSHOLES?"
Cosmonaut X
Member
To be honest, I imagine a GAF version of the a shareholders' meeting running very much like the skit at the beginning of the E3 Digital Event, with extra snark and more comments about Iwata's health issue being "convenient".
are you bullshitting? as leader of a microscopic dev team, miyamoto conceived and executed games with characters and systems that reverberated around the world. he's not some golden god, but he's also not just "a great designer and all" as you put it. miyamoto is the face of gaming for many, as disney was the face of animation.
Aquamarine
Member
Part of the reason that Capcom is so high is because the CEO of Capcom---Kenzo Tsujimoto---has ALWAYS been the CEO of Capcom.
He was the original founder of the company way back in 1983....and 31 years later, in his mid-70s, he's still running the company just like he did back in the early days of the industry.
There is a lot of respect given to those kind of lofty figures, regardless how Capcom is performing financially.
Konami has the same kind of thing, but there it's more of a struggle where you get the prestige of the CEO clashing with shareholder dissatisfaction. Still a good measure higher than Iwata, though.
And I see the "people who voted him down sold their shares" thing has set itself as a talking point without the factual evidence, just as I predicted. The people spouting it as fact are hardly surprises, either. Oh well, another year of suffering through someone's preconceived mis-information, I guess.
And yet only one is produced by a company that still remembers it exists. I'll let you guess which. I'd say that's more of a sign of a product without an audience, when the company that made it can't even decide what the hell to do with it. But this is rather off-topic.
And yet only one is produced by a company that still remembers it exists. I'll let you guess which. I'd say that's more of a sign of a product without an audience, when the company that made it can't even decide what the hell to do with it. But this is rather off-topic.
as an owner of both, i definitely appreciate nintendo's approach better, but considering their respective place in the market, i feel that it's a little like throwing stones in glass houses.
Number of shareholders (3/31/13): 74,633 persons
Number of shareholders (3/31/14): 55,160 persons
It's not hard factual evidence for the claim that "people who voted him down sold their shares", but a lot of people sold their shares.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Woah with half of them. They are truly clueless, didn't it?
Hasn't Nintendo bought many of its own shares recently? Or was it the year before?
It was this year. Nintendo bought 9.5 million shares in February.
On a side note: State Street and JPMorgan Chase (two big American banks) also bought quite a lot of shares in the last fiscal year.
How is he a dinosaur creativity wise? No, I'm serious. How are any of his announced E3 project creatively dead? Or, for that matter, hurting the company? All three projects are smaller projects designed to test the waters for future ideas. All three projects are Nintendo exploring an idea that they either haven't been exploring for a while (Air combat for Starfox) or are trying to get into a new genre that they haven't explored at all (Tower Defense and Mech Combat). Even if all three of these projects are failures, they've stilled input valuable information into the company about these genres.
StreetsAhead
Member
There are real criticisms to be made of Iwata, Miyamoto, and the rest of the Board of Directors, all well represented in this thread and across the internet, but 'They changed Paper Mario' and 'They don't make F-Zero games anymore' are not it.
KuroPyonyo
Banned
Do we even know which board member shoulders which responsibilitys besides vague terms?
Criticising Iwata is easy, he is the CEO afterall.
But Miyamoto, I have no idea what that guy really is responsible for, besides killing my desire to own sticker star.
How can investors even do educated votes without that knowledge?
Or am I missing some information?
Criticising Iwata is easy, he is the CEO afterall.
But Miyamoto, I have no idea what that guy really is responsible for, besides killing my desire to own sticker star.
How can investors even do educated votes without that knowledge?
Or am I missing some information?
shinobi602
Member
Why is Iwata's up?
Cosmonaut X
Member
Seeing these two posts in succession is hilarious :-D
Streets - yup, plenty of fair criticism for all, but very rare that anything thoughtful crops up these days.
He laid out the companies mid term plans so its possible that they want to see it out or something.
"So, going forward, taking into account the current state of the Wii U and 3DS in the modern marketplace... what is your policy on tipping?"
Cosmonaut X
Member
Q17
I would like to wish Mr Iwata a speedy recovery. Today I have a question for Mr Takeda. Mr Takeda, given the differences in power between Wii U and your competitor's systems, why you gotta be stanning for Iggy Azalea?
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Well Nintendo's stuck in 1998 don'tcha know.
Mysterious
Banned
But Yamauchi wouldn't have voted no for Iwata. It is the "no" votes that are missing.
Which still begs the question: Where did they go? Likely sold off.
Uh dude... There are significantly less votes in opposition for Iwata this year. That number is significantly more than his slight increase. So if they didn't change their vote to an approval, where did they go? They sold their shares. This is basic Grade 1 Math.
IncandescentPrecept
Banned
So, who vote for this? I thought it was the board of directors.
Aquamarine
Member
Investors with voting rights.
They're voting to re-elect the Board of Directors. Every public corporation does this.
Iwata, Miyamoto, Takeda, etc. are all high-ranking members of the Board.
And as members of the Board, they are accountable to their shareholders, who have to re-elect them to their current position every year with a plurality of votes.
Clockwork5
Member
77 is bad and 80% is not very good. I'm glad he is gaining more support, though. I think he is running the company better. Treehouse Live was the highpoint of e3 for many and Wii U is actually being talked about.
I really hope Iwata takes notice of Sony's early success this generation and realizes that raw hardware power will always attract third party publishers and gamers alike.
I would love a beastmode N console. But alas, I live in reality...
I really hope Iwata takes notice of Sony's early success this generation and realizes that raw hardware power will always attract third party publishers and gamers alike.
I would love a beastmode N console. But alas, I live in reality...
Aquamarine
Member
Sure we do.
Satoru Iwata
1) President and Senior Managing Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) Global President and CEO of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
3) Chairman (CEO) and Director of Nintendo of America, Inc.
Genyo Takeda
1) Senior Managing Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Integrated Research & Development (hardware) Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Shigeru Miyamoto
1) Senior Managing Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Entertainment Analysis & Development (in-house, premiere 1st-party software) Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Tatsumi Kimishima
1) Managing Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Corporate Analysis & Administration Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, General Affairs Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Shigeyuki Takahashi
1) Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Finance Administration Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Satoshi Yamato
1) Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Marketing Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Susumu Tanaka
1) Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Licensing Division of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
Shinya Takahashi
1) Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Software Planning & Development (1st-party software, including co-development) Division
3) Head of the Development Administration & Support Division
Hirokazu Shinshi
1) Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) General Manager, Manufacturing Division
Naoki Mizutani
1) Outside Director on the Board of Directors of Nintendo Co., Ltd.
2) Director, Mizutani Law and Patent Office
3) Visiting Professor, Graduate School of the Tokyo Institute of Technology
I feel Susumu Tanaka could be doing a better job. There's a lot of licensing opportunities nintendo could be taking advantage of.
ShinMaruku
Member
I love Iwata.
Oh boy, not this stuff again. This hasn't been true for any generation aside from the current one. The PS4 wouldn't be nearly as successful without Microsoft's massive Xbox One blunders.
This really baffles me. What has Iwata done in the last year to warrant a 3% increase in approval? 3DS sales are down and Wii U sales continue to stay in the shitter.
Do investors really believe in QOL? Smash for Wii U? The NFC figures? Or is it something else?
Lets say QOL is a monumental failure, and Smash/NFC/Kart are unable to meaningfully increase Wii U hardware sales by this time next year. Do we see the approval rating fall then? Because going into this shareholder meeting I was fucking sure his approval would be down from last year, even slightly.
Do investors really believe in QOL? Smash for Wii U? The NFC figures? Or is it something else?
Lets say QOL is a monumental failure, and Smash/NFC/Kart are unable to meaningfully increase Wii U hardware sales by this time next year. Do we see the approval rating fall then? Because going into this shareholder meeting I was fucking sure his approval would be down from last year, even slightly.
Nintendojitsu
Banned
If you read between the lines of a few of the investors questions, it looks as if they are trying to create a divide between Iwata and the other directors of the board. i.e Miyamoto etc...
Freezie KO
Banned
We're getting a console that will upres all the handheld games, so all Nintendo's games can be played regardless of hardware platform. This means all their teams get to be more free and not constantly reliant on alternating console/handheld/console/handheld for all the major franchises.
Release the wish for more power, and we may get the best Nintendo value proposition yet. (if they play their cards right, which they probably won't)
Mysterious
Banned
Nothing. The investors that opposed him sold their shares (these are NOT Yamauchi's shares, unless you are implying he opposed Iwata as Director last year), so obviously his approval % would increase.
StreetsAhead
Member
It's also not like investors sat down in a big room and agreed upon the exact percentage point increase for the approval rating based on Iwata's work over the last 12 months, either.