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"We still think about KOTOR 3" - Obsidian
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I know that feel, bro.
Because the first ones were, too (well, besides ios and mac for KOTOR1).
Give Xbone at least some exclusives.
dapperbandit
Banned
KotOR 2 really was fantastic; it felt like the best attempt there's been to plumb the depths of the force. Beyond being fun it was just interesting, even if everything you did was wrong in Kreia's eyes.
A lot of people here saying it would be for naught since the old republic isn't canon anymore. Perhaps I have the wrong end of the stick here, but doesn't that actually free Obsidian's hands in many ways supposing they did make another KotOR?
A lot of people here saying it would be for naught since the old republic isn't canon anymore. Perhaps I have the wrong end of the stick here, but doesn't that actually free Obsidian's hands in many ways supposing they did make another KotOR?
I agree with those saying they should just create their own sci-fi setting. It's not like SW:TOR is all that amazing - they already made it more interesting than it really is in KOTOR2.
I think both South Park and Alpha Protocol were great (the latter more so than the former).
Denton
Member
Grrrrrr I played Dungeon Siege 3 on a PC with gamepad (mouse support was terrible, yes) and it was a very enjoyable action RPG with some nice added narrative elements.
Considering it was their first game of this ARPG style, it was better than expected.
In fact, Obsidian is amazing in that every game they made has been in different style/breed of RPG, from open world exploration of NV through cinematic Mass Effect like Alpha Protocol and ARPG DS3 to hardcore oldschool PoE or crazyass South Park to classic DnD of NWN2.
And every single one was great+. Usually the complaints are centered on bugs, which were always responsibility of publishers (they handle QA), and Obsidian got bad rep instead.
Not to mention most of their games run on different engines, from Aurora, Electron, Gamebryo, Unreal or Onyx.
Obsidian, man. They fucking rock.
So much agreed.
As soon as EA/Bioware said that i knew they were in complete asshole mode just like Microsoft got in when they tried to tell people how great not having used games/rentals would be. At this point KOTOR 3 would be a MOBA. Chase those trends.
NO! THAT'S NOT TRUE! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
In my veins. please. And make it MS-exclusive
WTF ? Why?
An Obsidian made KOTOR 3 would be amazing. KOTOR 2 is still the best Star Wars story ever told, in my opinion. In some ways it ruined the franchise for me because everything else seems so bland compared to it.
I won't lie, I'd buy an Xbone for this if it were exclusive.
In my veins. please. And make it MS-exclusive
I won't lie, I'd buy an Xbone for this if it were exclusive.
disappeared
Banned
Don't do this to me Obsidian.
I wonder what Disney's planning to do with the license though. Would it just take a good pitch on the developer's part to convince the Mouse House?
I wonder what Disney's planning to do with the license though. Would it just take a good pitch on the developer's part to convince the Mouse House?
Markitron
Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Don't do this to me Obsidian.
I wonder what Disney's planning to do with the license though. Would it just take a good pitch on the developer's part to convince the Mouse House?
I'm not certain but I don't think this anything to do with Disney at this point, they gave the license to EA so it would have to be EA's decision to make it or not. The only way I see it happening is if Bioware make it, but maybe they don't want to pull focus away from The Old Republic
Mutanthands
Member
If I were in the boardroom, here's what I'd tell them:
"Obsidian, if you're interested in continuing with KOTOR, why don't you start with a next gen port of KOTOR 1 and 2, and complete 2 in line with your original vision? Maybe you can get EA and Bioware to bite on that, on the cheap? Then if it sells well, see if they'll let you take on 3?"
Only way I can see it happening. It has to make financial sense for EA in some way.
"Obsidian, if you're interested in continuing with KOTOR, why don't you start with a next gen port of KOTOR 1 and 2, and complete 2 in line with your original vision? Maybe you can get EA and Bioware to bite on that, on the cheap? Then if it sells well, see if they'll let you take on 3?"
Only way I can see it happening. It has to make financial sense for EA in some way.
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Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
The KOTOR gameplay formula should have been copied by so many other companies by now, its ridiculous. Somebody needs to step up and give us that gameplay formula we all love in a new gen title. If its KOTOR3 or something else, I'll take it.
Skiptastic
Member
Me too. Loved them all the same. I've read about the restored content, so that's good enough for me.
Baron_Calamity
Member
Silly Rabbit. QA is for other game companies.
I feel the same way. I'm still burned out on Star Wars. I'm not against Obsidian doing another Kotor as much as I'm tired of that genre of Star Wars games. The only thing I really want is a new space combat simulator and that's less likely that anything at this point.
I'm the complete opposite on this. South Park and Alpha Protocol were Obsidian's best games where as Fallout New Vegas, KOTOR 2 and Dungeon Siege III were terrible in their own ways and weren't as good as the previous games.
partyphone
Banned
My enthusiasm for Star Wars was destroyed by Lucas and the prequels so I'd much rather Obsidian be given a crack at Mass Effect than KotOR3. ME3 was awful but that was largely due to the writing.
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Banned
What.
GillianSeed79
Member
I could see Disney or EA trying to cash in on the KOTOR name at some point. I mean, it's probably unlikely, but give it some time I guess. I don't think it would be called KOTOR3, but hopefully there's nothing saying the whole Kotor 3,4,5,6,7 can't be ignored.
Never going to happen but it's a nice thought.
The fuck is thisIn my veins. please. And make it MS-exclusive
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I'm glad some one still thinks about KOTOR3 ;_;
SWTOR's stories are pretty good. The Jedi Knight storyline lines up with anything from the other KOTOR's story wise and all the other class stories and companions are pretty awesome as well. The only real bad thing about SWTOR was it's end game at launch and how quick you hit it. However if you only play for the story, there is a hell of a lot there. And I personally find the combat just as enjoyable as the KOTOR's.
SWTOR is still getting attention for star wars stuff. They are still pushing out content. That said, they are going to be more involved with making sure all games, books, media in general fits inside the canon properly. The TOR story-line, I think, wouldn't hurt the new movies and TV series coming out, but I think they want to release the new stuff before committing to hard on everything else, maybe.
TheSlySoul
Member
Agreed, South Park was the best RPG this year. Just because you do not like Paper Mario doesn't mean the rest of us do not.
Honestly, can they make KOTOR without Disney's approval? I thought they owned the Star Wars license.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
TOR is fine, it takes place 300 years later so it's not like they can't do KOTOR3 just because TOR exists.
The Last Wizard
Member
I just wish obsidian would get the the chance to do more console and PC games in the vein of alpha protocol,but sadly no publisher seem to want to work with them
TOR is good and fouces more then on just force users. SWTOR didnt damage that part of the IP at all, and added a lot of lore to the TOR universe. The TOR storyline is quite solid.
bananafactory
Banned
Saintguine
Member
KotOR II is my favourite Obsidian game and one of the best games I've ever played but...no.
The best thing about that game was that it was barely a Star Wars game. Put all those ideas and concept in your own IP, with the freedom that such a thing implies, and the result would inevitably be better.
Microsoft already had a chance at an exclusive Obsidian game, and we know how that turned out.
The best thing about that game was that it was barely a Star Wars game. Put all those ideas and concept in your own IP, with the freedom that such a thing implies, and the result would inevitably be better.
In my veins. please. And make it MS-exclusive
Microsoft already had a chance at an exclusive Obsidian game, and we know how that turned out.
I think it is canon or "Legend". SWTOR is so far removed from the movies that there would be no reason to retcon it. I think the focus was on everything after RotJ.
Shitty joke aside, publishers handle QA. If publishers rush Obsidian to release their game in unpolished states and/or don't give Obsidian resources & time to do proper QA, that's not on Obsidian (like they have reportedly had to do for pretty much every game except South Park & Dungeon Siege III, which are, incidentally, the two Obsidian games that aren't riddled with bugs). That + highly open/reactionary RPGs are prone to bugs & glitches. There's no amount of QA that will ever remove all of it.
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Just by reading the TOR story online it's basically KOTOR 3 (Revan's fate, etc.)
Rodney McKay
Member
KOTOR 2 was Obsidian's biggest disappointment to me since I loved KOTOR 1 so much. I don't particularly care if it was Obsidian's fault or Lucasart's, but either way the game was just an unfinished mess. I hit a game breaking bug with no way of fixing it 20 hours into the game (and this was after the fan and content restoration fixes). The much talked about "Obsidian writing" felt so overwrought and preachy in this game it started to become a joke to me. I would intentionally take the opposing side of every character just to see how much holier-than-thou dialog I could get them to shout about.
Me - "Yeah, I went to war and felt good about it, so what Jedi lady?"
Jedi Lady - "NOOOO! War is BAD and we are good and you are bad, blah blah blah"
Me - "Yeah, I gave that pan-handler 5 credits, so what?"
Old lady (totally not going to end up being the villain) companion - "NOOOO! Giving handouts is BAD because he will get mugged and nothing good ever happens to anyone ever because life is bad, blah blah blah.
I'll give them credit that their writing isn't as cliché as most other video game developers and they do write a lot MORE than other games, but it has never been good enough to engross me in the stories they try to tell and end up doing the opposite.
Me - "Yeah, I went to war and felt good about it, so what Jedi lady?"
Jedi Lady - "NOOOO! War is BAD and we are good and you are bad, blah blah blah"
Me - "Yeah, I gave that pan-handler 5 credits, so what?"
Old lady (totally not going to end up being the villain) companion - "NOOOO! Giving handouts is BAD because he will get mugged and nothing good ever happens to anyone ever because life is bad, blah blah blah.
I'll give them credit that their writing isn't as cliché as most other video game developers and they do write a lot MORE than other games, but it has never been good enough to engross me in the stories they try to tell and end up doing the opposite.
But they said that everything they put out from this time forward (including all new novels, video games, comics, etc.) will be Canon. Because SWTOR is an on-going project and new content is being made, the TOR universe is still canon, I would think.
Jason's Ultimatum
Member
I just didn't like the characters or the environments in the sequel. Everything about KOTOR was damn GOOD. The music, locations, and characters were all great.
All kotor2's philosophical musings and themes were good on their own, but enhanced because of the franchise it took place within. The writers didn't have to establish rules concerning the force or the tech being used - we know because it's Star Wars. As such, they could really explore the meaning of morality as it pertains to the star wars lore, and it was dope.
I loved KOTOR 2, but I do think KOTOR was the better story and better game.
I agree with this. KOTOR is one of my favs, KOTOR 2 was a burning disappointment. Still I'd even take an unfinished Obsidian game if it means more KOTOR