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PAL Charts - Week 29, 2014
- Thread starter Bruno MB
- Start date
theprodigy
Member
If a 127% increase from Pokemon Black sends it from off the chart to #14, those spots must be pretty low
....I wonder, how much is that top SKU anyway
....I wonder, how much is that top SKU anyway
WD, all versions combined, is around 10,000 units, given the estimates we have.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Well, if you measure box per box it won't come out on top either. I meant in the long run. The higher priced games might earn more in the short run. Minecraft will just keep on running with those long legs and beat them all in the end, just give it time.
Cornbread78
Member
It's Monday morning and I haven't had my coffee yet. Can anyone remind me How and If hardware numbers are tracked in PAL territories?
theprodigy
Member
Then the two Minecrafts are probably a decent bit below that huh, oh wow
Sort of, but we get numbers very rarely. Often comes from interviews with N/M/S execs, or yearly reports from the SELL or BIU (FRA and GER respectively).
Probably something like 6,000-7,000 for 1st place.
Cornbread78
Member
So there is nothing like NPD/Media Create to give actually numbers in PAL or the UK for hardware? Sorry, I've been here a long time now, but I completely forget.. work sucks...
The equivalent is GfK. they don't publicly release numbers. But we do get them sometimes, as I said, from SELL of BIU for instance.
Pjsprojects
Member
Very true. I purchased an Xbone yesterday from Argos,this was the stand alone without kinect but one of the offers was to have Titanfall for free.
Didn't need it due to already having it on pc, but nothing beats free lol.
Cornbread78
Member
Is there any reason to suggest why X360 has been outpacing the PS3 version of mincecraft for the last two weeks?
Last Week
Watchdogs - 19 Spots
Wolf:TNO - 8 Spots
COD:G - 7 Spots
Fifa 14 - 8 Spots
Sniper Elite 3 - 7 Spots
UFC - 20 Spots
BF4 - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
This week
Watchdogs - 27 Spots
Wolf:TNO - 16 Spots
COD:G - 11 Spots
Fifa 14 - 11 Spots
Sniper Elite 3 - 16 Spots
UFC - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
BF4 - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
Difference change
Watchdogs - ↑
Wolf:TNO - ↑
COD:G - ↑
Fifa 14 - ↑
Sniper Elite 3 - ↑
UFC - ↑
BF4 - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
All differences are PS4 sku > XB1 sku
Last Week
Watchdogs - 19 Spots
Wolf:TNO - 8 Spots
COD:G - 7 Spots
Fifa 14 - 8 Spots
Sniper Elite 3 - 7 Spots
UFC - 20 Spots
BF4 - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
This week
Watchdogs - 27 Spots
Wolf:TNO - 16 Spots
COD:G - 11 Spots
Fifa 14 - 11 Spots
Sniper Elite 3 - 16 Spots
UFC - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
BF4 - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
Difference change
Watchdogs - ↑
Wolf:TNO - ↑
COD:G - ↑
Fifa 14 - ↑
Sniper Elite 3 - ↑
UFC - ↑
BF4 - Unknown XB1 unranked in top 40
All differences are PS4 sku > XB1 sku
BananaSprinkles
Banned
Because there are more 360s in the UK than PS3s?
Pretty much this and I'm sure by this point, there are a large group of people with both consoles and got the version that came out first.
Waluigilicious
Member
Pokemon BW charting after all these years, despite selling very well in the first place, and there being a direct sequel on the same console and the next game in the series on the next console is very strong proof that games are way too expensive here and prices play a huge role in low sales.
Look at this
Week 20 PS3 debut
PS3 - 1
Xbox360 - 2
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=821575&highlight=
Week 21
PS3 - 3
Xbox360 - 6
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=825949&highlight=
Week 22
PS3 - 6
Xbox360 - 7
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=829294&highlight=
Week 23
PS3 - 6
Xbox360 - 7
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=833650&highlight=
Week 24
PS3 - 5
Xbox360 - 7
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=838535&highlight=
Week 25
PS3 - 6
Xbox360 - 7
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=842732&highlight=
Week 26
PS3 - 8
Xbox360 - 6
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=846680&highlight=
Week 27
PS3 - 3
Xbox360 - 4
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=850688&highlight=
Week 27
PS3 - 3
Xbox360 - 4
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=850688&highlight=
Week 28
PS3 - 2
Xbox360 - 1
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=854734&highlight=
Week 29 - This week
PS3 - 2
Xbox360 - 1
So apart from the last two weeks there has been only one other time (Week 26) when X360 version sold more since the PS3 debuted which is why am asking.
Too fucking right. That's probably why Minecraft is consistently at the top of the sales charts compared to the Lego games, for example.
Neff
Member
Probably only in East Midlands Sainsbury's, though.
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No summer holiday for MK and Tomodachi
Gotta keep on truckin'
Notch could probably buy the moon at this point
Gotta keep on truckin'
Notch could probably buy the moon at this point
SwiftDeath
Member
Said this before but it's great to see wolfie continue to chart. Deserves good sales.
In the UK, MS really seems to have lost significant marketshare. That has to be worrisome
In the UK, MS really seems to have lost significant marketshare. That has to be worrisome
No doubt we're the centre of the Wii U-niverse.
It's interesting (to me) because they dropped the Wii U hard. Even slashed prices on 1st party titles. Was quite the surprise to see an MK8 bundle and a handful of titles on t'shelf.
Can't believe that Microsoft have lost the UK this soon in the generation.
Neff
Member
Sainsury's slash like crazy on all entertainment products after a while, they're great. But I don't blame them, honestly. Supermarkets only cater to the super-mainstream, especially where games are concerned, and it was valuable floor space being used for, well, nothing at the time.
There's definitely a sense that Nintendo is starting to become relevant in the UK again, if only a little. Considering where they've been for the last 18 months though, that's a huge step.
Katana_Strikes
Member
In regards to software for the XBone, it really doesn't look like the new SKU (if it has given the hardware a sales boost here) has helped with people picking up any games. You wouldn't even have known there was a new SKU going off the software charts, it's just been business as usual and weeks later the games are slipping further behind their PS4 counterparts or having less games in the Top 40.
Fair enough the XBone hasn't had any killer software (as in exclusives) in a while to help the situation, but still third party stuff isn't doing all that well. UFC gone from the chart already and WatchDogs looking dangerously close to falling off soon whilst the PS4 version is still riding high in the Top 10 (though admittedly bundles will be helping some what with that too).
With nothing major over August on the XBone, it's going to be a tough month ahead too. September should see some pick up (in general anyways) with FIFA (which will probably get exclusive bundles) and Destiny coming out as well (though not in anyway the same impact it will have on PS4).
Which speaking of the Destiny PS4 bundle, is there going to be one for the black console? Seems weird that there wouldn't be as well. I have only seen the bundle with the white... and that being Game exclusive will hamper the sales and reach somewhat.
Fair enough the XBone hasn't had any killer software (as in exclusives) in a while to help the situation, but still third party stuff isn't doing all that well. UFC gone from the chart already and WatchDogs looking dangerously close to falling off soon whilst the PS4 version is still riding high in the Top 10 (though admittedly bundles will be helping some what with that too).
With nothing major over August on the XBone, it's going to be a tough month ahead too. September should see some pick up (in general anyways) with FIFA (which will probably get exclusive bundles) and Destiny coming out as well (though not in anyway the same impact it will have on PS4).
Which speaking of the Destiny PS4 bundle, is there going to be one for the black console? Seems weird that there wouldn't be as well. I have only seen the bundle with the white... and that being Game exclusive will hamper the sales and reach somewhat.
test_account
XP-39C²
The popularities of these games also plays a huge factor into those things. Price matters for sure, but that isnt the only thing that matters. I'm sure there are games that are priced cheaper than Minecraft and Pokemon, yet those games doesnt even enter the Top 40 anymore, and the main reason for that is because those games arent popular enough to warrant much higher sales despite being priced low.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
As a recent reader of the PAL charts, I found two things that kind of surprised me (both related to Germany).
1. Is Germany really into One Piece? The week it released, it was #3 on the charts for the PS3. Even the Wii U version actually hit #15, beating the 3DS version its first week (it dropped off the charts soon after though).
2. It seems to me that the Wii U fans buy quite a few games. If a game releases, sometimes (in the first week though), their owners actually seem to rush out and buy the game to some extent. Lego Movie actually charted higher on Wii U than PS3, 3DS and 360 which surprised me.
1. Is Germany really into One Piece? The week it released, it was #3 on the charts for the PS3. Even the Wii U version actually hit #15, beating the 3DS version its first week (it dropped off the charts soon after though).
2. It seems to me that the Wii U fans buy quite a few games. If a game releases, sometimes (in the first week though), their owners actually seem to rush out and buy the game to some extent. Lego Movie actually charted higher on Wii U than PS3, 3DS and 360 which surprised me.
Germany can't get enough of Ruffy and Lorenor Zorro.
We need a Fallout 3 port.
We aren't getting any more 'big' FPS for the Vita, I wouldn't have thought. I'm surprised that Gameloft have never thrown a 'Modern Combat' shaped bone to the Vita.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Germany's always been really into One piece. It's of the few countries outside Japan that really are. Plus the dub of the anime was actually decent over there.
Is this question serious? The answer is because no console games are usually released at £12.
The console games that fall to that price, assuming they're decent games, usually do chart again, but of course, since the majority of the sales are made at full price in the first months for them, they can't just stay there for eternity.
It's obvious and well-known that Minecraft is a game with long legs and a big seller. But, it has a very different price point, which itself defines a broader target user.
If you want I can show you how some £1 mobile games sold more than Minecraft last week, but I'm not sure what's the point.
Mobile games are not tracked here, Minecraft and MK8 are.
Minecraft has sold more than 54 Million copys on all available Platforms. Mk8 must propably sell 10 Million units to get the same profit.
So whats your point? EXACTLY! Why are you trying to block out Minecraft in the charts (B-But its not even fullprice, doesnt count!)
MY Point is: If the 12 pounds pricepoint is the reason for the success of Minecraft, why isnt everyone doing it? Would MK8 sell 5 times more? (with the equivalent rise of Hardware sales)
Dragon1893
Member
Last week there wasn't a single X1 game in Germany's top 50...
man, you're literally jumping from one thing to another. I was answering to "then why isnt the Top Ten always covered with 5 to 20£ Games? "
Again, mobile games are not in this chart, but it doesn't mean that they don't exist.
What if they were in this chart? Would you make the same posts about Temple Run 2 at the top of chart and "why isnt everyone doing it" ?
Should we keep comparing apple to oranges? If you feel like it, all right.
oh, I wonder
If you can't see the collateral effects that selling Mario Kart 8 at £12 would have then I can't help you.
Also, do you have any data about the correlation between Minecraft sales and hardware sales push?
As you said, Minecraft is available on PC, iOS, Android, 360, PS3. So what's the point of this kind of revenue comparison... it sure beats me. Maybe Nintendo should release Mario Kart on other platforms to increase revenue...
It's no bu-bu, it's because it's not an industry standard by any means. It's not "Minecraft and Mario Kart", it's "Minecraft and console games"
Again, mobile games are not in this chart, but it doesn't mean that they don't exist.
What if they were in this chart? Would you make the same posts about Temple Run 2 at the top of chart and "why isnt everyone doing it" ?
Should we keep comparing apple to oranges? If you feel like it, all right.
I guess I'll leave to yourself to realize the (obvious) answer. "Why isn't everyone doing it"?
oh, I wonder
If you can't see the collateral effects that selling Mario Kart 8 at £12 would have then I can't help you.
Also, do you have any data about the correlation between Minecraft sales and hardware sales push?
Miles Quaritch
Member
So it seems that Tomodachi Life is #1 in Germany, followed by Minecraft PS3.
Also it seems we're losing the Finnish and Swedish charts - they haven't been updated in 2 weeks now
Paywalled?
That's a shame, hope it's not something that spreads.
I don't think so. The link is still perfectly working, ut's just that the last update was for week 27. Well I guess no one really cared about Sweden and Finland anyway
Well I guess we still potentially have this, but it's stuck at week 27 too...
http://angi-nordic.com/charts/
Chart Track is a bit worrying. First Denmark was transfered to GfK Nordic, who used to have Norway, Sweden and Denmark available, but then stopped. Then they stopped releasing Irish charts too.
theprodigy
Member
This is why we need leakers for these charts
Bruno MB
Member
Germany:
Week 29, 2014 - Individual Formats (Units)
01 (02) 3DS TOMODACHI LIFE (NINTENDO)
02 (01) PS3 MINECRAFT - PLAYSTATION 3 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
03 (09) PS3 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
04 (04) PS4 WATCH DOGS - BONUS EDITION (UBISOFT)
05 (05) PS4 FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
06 (03) PS3 FIFA FUSSBALL-WELTMEISTERSCHAFT BRASILIEN 2014 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
07 (06) WIU MARIO KART 8 (NINTENDO)
08 (08) PS3 WATCH DOGS (UBISOFT)
09 (11) 3DS ANIMAL CROSSING: NEW LEAF (NINTENDO)
10 (10) PS3 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
11 (16) 3DS MARIO KART 7 (NINTENDO)
12 (40) 360 FIFA 14 ELECTRONIC ARTS)
13 (13) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: BLACK OPS II (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
14 (31) 360 FIFA FUSSBALL-WELTMEISTERSCHAFT BRASILIEN 2014 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
15 (07) 3DS YU-GI-OH! ZEXAL WORLD DUEL CARNIVAL BUNDLE (KONAMI)
16 (20) 3DS POKÉMON X (NINTENDO)
17 (12) PS4 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
18 (18) 3DS POKÉMON Y (NINTENDO)
19 (15) PS4 ASSASSIN'S CREED IV - BLACK FLAG (UBISOFT)
20 (22) 360 MINECRAFT - XBOX 360 EDITION (AK TRONIC)
21 (26) PS3 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
22 (23) PS4 BATTLEFIELD 4 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
23 (21) 3DS POKÉMON ART ACADEMY (NINTENDO)
24 (28) PS3 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
25 (17) PS4 KILLZONE: SHADOW FALL (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
26 (27) PC DIABLO III: REAPER OF SOULS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
27 (34) PC THE ELDER SCROLLS V - SKYRIM (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
28 (14) PS4 SNIPER ELITE III - AFRIKA (BANDAI NAMCO GAMES)
29 (33) 360 GRAND THEFT AUTO V (TAKE-TWO INTERACTIVE)
30 (19) PS3 ONE PIECE: UNLIMITED WORLD RED (BANDAI NAMCO GAMES)
31 (__) PC FIFA 14 (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
32 (30) PS3 CALL OF DUTY: GHOSTS (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
33 (36) PS3 GRAN TURISMO 6 (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
34 (58) PS3 DIABLO III (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
35 (56) NDS POKÉMON: SCHWARZE EDITION 2 (NINTENDO)
36 (42) PC LANDWIRTSCHAFTS-SIMULATOR 2013 (ASTRAGON)
37 (24) PS4 EA SPORTS UFC (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
38 (35) PC DIVINITY: ORIGINAL SIN (EUROVIDEO)
39 (29) PS4 SNIPER ELITE III - AFRIKA (BANDAI NAMCO GAMES)
40 (25) PS4 INFAMOUS: SECOND SON (SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT)
41 (38) 3DS NEW SUPER MARIO BROS. 2 (NINTENDO)
42 (44) PC DIE SIMS 3: STARTER-SET (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
43 (63) WII FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
44 (52) PC SPINTIRES - OFFROAD TRUCK SIMULATOR (RONDOMEDIA)
45 (43) PC WORLD OF WARCRAFT: MISTS OF PANDARIA (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
46 (45) PC STARCRAFT II: HEART OF THE SWARM (ACTIVISION BLIZZARD)
47 (80) 3DS FIFA 14 - LEGACY EDITION (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
48 (51) 360 WATCH DOGS (UBISOFT)
49 (41) PS4 NEED FOR SPEED: RIVALS (ELECTRONIC ARTS)
50 (32) PS4 WOLFENSTEIN: THE NEW ORDER (BETHESDA SOFTWORKS)
Top 50
PS3 - 12
PS4 - 12
PC - 9
3DS - 9
360 - 5
WIU - 1
NDS - 1
WII - 1