VanCityGamer
Member
It absolutely DOES matter whether or not it's a new IP. Releasing Tomb Raider games on PS4 (Definitive Edition), and then making sequels exclusives is a much different thing than making a franchise exclusive from the start.
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Rise of the Tomb Raider timed Xbox exclusive for Holiday 2015 (No PS/PC, SE publish)
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It absolutely DOES matter whether or not it's a new IP. Releasing Tomb Raider games on PS4 (Definitive Edition), and then making sequels exclusives is a much different thing than making a franchise exclusive from the start.
Neff
Member
Consider that lots and lots of people are naturally going to be curious about the new Tomb Raider game when it releases. They're then going to investigate PS3 and PS4 versions, only to discover that they don't actually exist, which is a pretty big talking point, as we've seen. This topic of conversation then snowballs and publicly reinforces the statement that Microsoft is serious as a heart attack about Xbone and securing exclusives for it, which makes buyers feel more comfortable about supporting it and receiving future cherry exclusives.
It's basically taking advantage of the high profile branding Tomb Raider carries to get people talking about Xbox, and buying Xbox hardware, two birds with one no doubt expensive stone. And if they keep doing stuff like this, it'll probably pay off, at least in terms of re-establishing their hardware.
TF was painfully obvious a timed exclusive since a reveal.
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
It's been done before, not because it's being taken away fromSony that it's worse. In this case, I want my final fantasy back to Nintendo platforms. That's where it all started and where it should end!
Stratosphere
Member
Hmm? I meant timed before hitting Sony consoles.
Yeah it does to PS4 owners, I thought tomb raider was also a timed exclusive for x1?.
Even if it is not, maybe MS are being big nasty people trying to take your game away.
Well no shit, this is a business and they are in competition, if sony cared so much for the players why didnt they make a counter offer?
ArkkAngel007
Member
It's possible, but not probable. Titanfall had a lot of obstacles in the way due to the Activision lawsuits against the folks from Infinity Ward, leading to one of the guys leaving Respawn because he just couldn't handle the stress anymore. That game was literally on the ledge for being way behind schedule for EA.
I don't see the same happening with Rise of the
PR responses most definitely do not say permanent and they refuse to elaborate
i thought one of the devs said "100% exclusive"
That's what I meant. If it was truly exclusive, the devs wouldn't be dancing around the " PS4, when?" questions.
my guess is its gonna go handheld after the next one tanks, so maybe your wish will come true.
all I've seen is people say "xbox exclusive holiday 2015" and they refuse to elaborate or stray from the 2015 bit
FacelessSamurai
..but cry so much I wish I had some
TR2013 broke even for SE, wouldn't be crazy to think they need financial help.
Just as a curiousity, when was the last time Sony outright purchased exclusivity for a game that had been announced already and had no reason to think it wouldnt be multiplat?
boredandlazy
Member
What about PC gamers? Who'd make a counter off on their behalf?
We'll most likely never know if MS approached Square or if Square approached MS.
What are you trying to say?
PC owners want to play this game as well chief.
Stratosphere
Member
As far as I'm aware, Titanfall will never be coming to PS3/4. I think what they were alluding to were sequels.
FairXchange
Member
The thing that still gets me is that Tomb Raider DE sold best on PS4, by a wide margin. It even performed better on the PS4 too. For them to just turn around and do that to this community that embraced them is just sleazy. I respect that they saw an opportunity with MS and took it, but I don't respect the rejection of a supportive fan base that just recently helped their franchise the most in the transition to the new generation.
What were they thinking?
What were they thinking?
this looks like permanent
https://twitter.com/L1keMike/status/499178564550291456
others dont
confusing
Knightmarre
Member
SE is so short sighted. They saw that MS check and knew it would look good to their investors to get money up front.
At least they won't complain about missing their sales goal after it flops.
At least they won't complain about missing their sales goal after it flops.
VanCityGamer
Member
Not too sure your point...? OK, it was shitty when done before and it's shitty now. I was explaining why TR exclusivity is not the same as Hellblade.
Probably Haze.
source?
Until 1-2 years later when it isn't.
notice in the actual blog post they are careful to keep "holiday 2015" in there. this is the whole reason for the confusion
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I just realised.....this is coming in Fall 2015. PS4 could have a base of 25- 30 million by then.
Chobel
Member
Source? The game Sold 6.5 million.
overdrivex
Banned
didn't tomb raider only started to reach profitability at end of last year
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...chieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year
even if it only a timed exclusive, wouldn't that be one of the big reasons to go that lane for a sequel, have another company shoulder the financial burdens to get it off the ground?
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...chieved-profitability-by-the-end-of-last-year
even if it only a timed exclusive, wouldn't that be one of the big reasons to go that lane for a sequel, have another company shoulder the financial burdens to get it off the ground?
TheDarkKnight774
Member
Indie dev going to the rapture. They needed help funding it, took the money and it's no longer going to pc.
Not the same thing. As SE has no issue with a marquee franchise. But closest I could think of
It's clearly Square Enix. MS made an offer, nothing wrong with that, Crystal Dynamics are the developers, they don't own the IP. Square Enix basically said fuck the fans and took the money.
Derekloffin
Member
They won't?! You have too much faith in humanity my friend. You will be disappointed
Until they spell it out and say "It will never come to a non-Xbox platform" it remains timed. Every single PR statement has a variation of "Holiday 2015 Xbox exclusive".
I'm talking about from the time from the E3 in June reveal to the EA announcement. One of the devs even said it was timed exclusive to start with here a couple months ago.
Eh, seems like a huge waste of money for Microsoft. This isn't going to make me buy an Xbox One. I'll just wait until Jan/Feb 2016 (or however much later) when the PS4 version comes out and get it then. I've never seen the point of Timed Exclusives, they have absolutely no impact on what system I'll purchase a game on.
How about instead of pissing away money on this pointless shit use it on making original and new content for your system and make me actually want to become a customer. That seems like a better use of resources than moneyhatting timed multiplats. The only games I'm even remotely interested in at this point are Halo 5 and Scalebound and there's dick all else on the horizon. That's not enough to make me a customer and neither is this bullshit.
How about instead of pissing away money on this pointless shit use it on making original and new content for your system and make me actually want to become a customer. That seems like a better use of resources than moneyhatting timed multiplats. The only games I'm even remotely interested in at this point are Halo 5 and Scalebound and there's dick all else on the horizon. That's not enough to make me a customer and neither is this bullshit.
shacklesmcgee
Member
I don't own a PS4, they took away my PC version, your argument is invalid and bad.
MS want people to buy an X1 for it. So knowing MS it will most likely come to the PC Later.
These kind of deals are actually done to try and boost the sales and mindshare of the platform there coming out on, and in this case it aint the PC.
it maybe invalid and bad to you, but its the truth.
no one knows for sure but one of those is a pretty safe assumption
The second. They aren't even publishing it in any capacity.
Goodacre0081
Member
I remember during the conference Jim Ryan taking some shots at this very subject when talking about some of the games lineup.
http://www.twitch.tv/playstation/b/557384048
right at 29:20 he straight up defines exclusives and timed. no bullshit
really ? do they do this with every exclusive ? point out in blog posts that it will never hit other platforms ?
right now it says exclusive and we wont know if its not until 2016
B, definitely. I'm not going to blame any of the big three for attempting to get an exclusive, even though I detest money hats and would rather a game be exclusive because a particular platform is the only one with a particular feature set that is crucial to the game. SE are at fault for either seeking said money hat or accepting with the accompanied middle finger given to its fans who have played at least the previous 5 titles either on PC or a PS platform.
EDIT: Assuming it doesn't end up being just a timed exclusive as it seems to be right now. In which case, still SE giving a middle finger by being intentionally manipulative about their announcement.
What was the budget + marketing? What was the revenue from sales? I'd love to know.
Holiday 2015 exclusive.