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Brave Frontier |OT| No puzzles, just dragons

Used my 5 free gems and pulled a guardian twins. At least its not a dupe this time. =/
Questing is actually getting harder now since I'm almost done with Lizeria. 115 energy to clear one area for a gem.
 

Lockon

Member
Anyone know where I can find an up-to-date unit tiers list? Japanese or English doesn't matter, both would be awesome though.

I was wondering because I was looking at my Thunder team and thinking when the thunder arena is going to start, and I started looking at my units...I have max level 6* Eze and Behemoth. I'm kinda shocked that their overall stats are pretty bad compare to newer units (which I got most of them). I have 3 other 6* units in the team(Loch, Amy, and Ronel).

If I want to replace Eze and Behemoth, I'm going to replace one of them with Uda.
The other would be Lodin or Rina...Any suggestion?
 
Anyone know where I can find an up-to-date unit tiers list? Japanese or English doesn't matter, both would be awesome though.

I was wondering because I was looking at my Thunder team and thinking when the thunder arena is going to start, and I started looking at my units...I have max level 6* Eze and Behemoth. I'm kinda shocked that their overall stats are pretty bad compare to newer units (which I got most of them). I have 3 other 6* units in the team(Loch, Amy, and Ronel).

If I want to replace Eze and Behemoth, I'm going to replace one of them with Uda.
The other would be Lodin or Rina...Any suggestion?
Uda, Lodin or Rina are pretty good.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5uSOQ2yLIUAy6HU98ixZzKRiHCM-bUVjdLb9tXMYiY/pubhtml

Noticed they downgraded Serin from currently viable to outclassed units and Lava isn't in the elite tier anymore.
 

Lockon

Member
Uda, Lodin or Rina are pretty good.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_5uSOQ2yLIUAy6HU98ixZzKRiHCM-bUVjdLb9tXMYiY/pubhtml

Noticed they downgraded Serin from currently viable to outclassed units and Lava isn't in the elite tier anymore.

Thanks for the doc. I didn't know Lilith was that good for boss killing...I better level her up. That list is also telling me to replace my whole fire team except Aisha, and may be Lancia lol. I don't know what Arena Special mean...Is it units that are good for arena?
 

Kreed

Member
Thanks for the doc. I didn't know Lilith was that good for boss killing...I better level her up. That list is also telling me to replace my whole fire team except Aisha, and may be Lancia lol. I don't know what Arena Special mean...Is it units that are good for arena?

Keep in mind that this list is mostly for the late/meta game. If you're still early in the game, don't start dumping units, particularly if you don't have better ones for the ones you're dumping (fire units in this case).

Lilith just got her 6 star form which gives her a unique SBB that refills itself automatically after use. This is where the "boss killer" comes from, because once you get her SBB activated you can use it as much as you want regardless of how many crystals you get.

And yes, Arena Special means good for the arena. For example, Lira only requires a few crystals to activate her BB, so in the arena this skill is very useful.
 

HomesIice

Member
SMP is up. I never like doing these because 40 energy for 1 run is a bit much for me and my luck is terribad.

In other news, I just unlocked SBB for the first time! Never again.
 

Kitoro

Member
I could use some team advice!

In my stable, all 6* level 100 and SBB 10, I've got:

Aisha O
Sefia G
Lancia L
Leore L
Amy A
Felneus B
Alice B
Magress O
Atro L

What would be the best makeup for my team, and which leader skill would be best suited? Been holding out until Zelnite before I summon any further. Thanks!
 
I acquired 2x Luther, 2x Zellha, and Phee this weekend.

I see that Uda is the "new" Felneus, and Luther and Zellha are basially differently element Douglas upgrades.

Anything special about Phee, Kajah, or Nalmika?
 

Shouta

Member
The meta for this game makes me kinda laugh mostly because every time I hear someone use it, it's usually for a competitive game. I'll just be a loyalist to my Selena. Dat glass cannon.

I really wish the unit design was better so they didn't basically kill old units that had 6 star Evos. Just stat distributions could be better but then again it would mean less money for them.
 

HomesIice

Member
I acquired 2x Luther, 2x Zellha, and Phee this weekend.

I see that Uda is the "new" Felneus, and Luther and Zellha are basially differently element Douglas upgrades.

Anything special about Phee, Kajah, or Nalmika?

Kajah is a (very) hard hitter but with a useless LS
Nalmika is the go-to for status infliction
Phee I think is a physical pseudo-healer who I'm pretty sure is getting outclassed with the next batch, not sure though
 
Anyone completed Vargas dungeon level 3? Don't have a Tesla Tower so I'm guarding every 3rd turn. My group setup will be Signas, Felneus(no SBB and not at max level), Raydn, Serin, Tiara and Elimo helper. Don't want to burn too many gems on him, but not sure if this team will cut it. Tiara doesn't have SBB either.
 

HomesIice

Member
Anyone completed Vargas dungeon level 3? Don't have a Tesla Tower so I'm guarding every 3rd turn. My group setup will be Signas, Felneus(no SBB and not at max level), Raydn, Serin, Tiara and Elimo helper. Don't want to burn too many gems on him, but not sure if this team will cut it. Tiara doesn't have SBB either.

Nope, don't think I'll be able to for a very long time either!

If you really really want, I have a Copra (lol) that I can put as a leader while you do this?
I recently got it so might not be much use but it's there if you need
 

Draxal

Member
Anyone completed Vargas dungeon level 3? Don't have a Tesla Tower so I'm guarding every 3rd turn. My group setup will be Signas, Felneus(no SBB and not at max level), Raydn, Serin, Tiara and Elimo helper. Don't want to burn too many gems on him, but not sure if this team will cut it. Tiara doesn't have SBB either.

Beat it with Felneus lead (think SBB 3 or so), Elimo (sbb1) 2 Serins (bb1) Selene (friend and 1 sub bb 1 or 2 ish).

The two Selene's did nothing. Mvp was the Elimo's shiled pretty much going off every turn.
 
Beat it with Felneus lead (think SBB 3 or so), Elimo (sbb1) 2 Serins (bb1) Selene (friend and 1 sub bb 1 or 2 ish).

The two Selene's did nothing. Mvp was the Elimo's shiled pretty much going off every turn.
Did you use gems? Elimo shield was enough defense boost to survive Vargas BB three times?
 
I defeated Vargas level 3 with a crit party.

I think it was 2x Zebra leader, Felneus, Duel-GX, and Douglas (x2) for crystal gen, with Angelic Foils for spheres.

I did end up using a couple of gems. It may seem strange to use the Douglas' since they are weak element but the guys in that mission hit so hard they'd kill any non-Water units as easily as they would Earth.
 

mrtoffee

Member
Check it out: a Brave Frontier God/Goddess relationship chart.

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Lance level 3 is so freaking boring.

Has a chance to only take 1 damage from any attack and every 3rd turn or so heals himself for 40k. I have to get lucky to get more than a miniscule amount of damage every 3 turns.

Why does Alim want Mare/Zebra to be the only way to kill stuff? Is this considered good design?
 

HomesIice

Member
So I have a 5* breaker GX level 62, and a level 1 6* oracle GX. Which type is better or it doesn't really matter?

I'd personally go with your Breaker since 6*'s REC stat (1520) should be plenty?
Though if you don't feel like collecting evo mats/evolving your 5* then go 6*
Just my 2 cents
 

Phades

Member
Lance level 3 is so freaking boring.

Has a chance to only take 1 damage from any attack and every 3rd turn or so heals himself for 40k. I have to get lucky to get more than a miniscule amount of damage every 3 turns.

Why does Alim want Mare/Zebra to be the only way to kill stuff? Is this considered good design?

I'm convinced it is just design intended to encourage spending and reward those who spend creating a self feeding cycle. I just try to make the best of it when I am able.

I have no crit squad. So, my plan is to go in with a Ramna lead and grah friend (I have no copra/tesla/oulu/golem or other similar defensive unit friends) and hopefully spend less than 3 gems for the level 3 fight. I still don't have copra/tesla/oulu or elimo. The real debate I'm having with myself prior to going in is if Vishra's SBB going to be required or not for crystal sustain purposes and replace either Cayena, Vargas, or Lava with him and if so which. Statistically he has outclassed my Lava even in 5* form due to lava's oracle typing. Cayena is basically there for crystal gen purposes anyhow and Vargas is showing his age.
 
Yay!

Was going for Gravion, Great Golem's final form but it was easier to find another miracle totem than a single green idol..............

yeah......

So I made this since I had all the parts. Even better is I got a red idol out of the honor pull -.- They keep giving me crap for units aside from the one I like the most!

Also finally found Alice on my NA account, meanwhile my JP account uses a mono dark team. Getting all the opposite stuff I wanted or needed. Oh well, final form Behemoth looks cool at least.
 

Phades

Member
Nice, congrats. I did similar earlier this week. Did grah last night too. Grah felt easier than karl outside of his 0% health retaliation attack.
 

Phades

Member
In the grah fight, I was worried he would spam the ST paralysis more than he did. His "regular" damage didn't seem all that bad. It was just his special attacks that were really painful. I was also expecting a big jump in power between him and karl as a boss fight (aoe spam, base attack damage, etc) and it just wasn't the case at all. So, knowing about the scripted attacks in a sense makes the fight rather easy and I see the logic behind havnig the 3 squad option now too since if you knew nothing and didn't pay attention to the caption regarding that trial, you would lose 1 squad right away, the 2nd squad at 40% in all likelyhood with the question of if the 3rd squad would get wiped out or not at 0% health.

In a way, that isn't entirely different than the maxwell progresion fight with the enemy immediately attacking you after the previous one is defeated with the expectation that a squad is getting lost in transition and then learning from the prior fights using the final group or renmants of the 2nd group to bring maxwell down (except his unlimited revival thingy once every 3 turns...).
 

Finally!

Burned through 2 levels worth of bars trying to find an Earth Idol with no luck, all 54 of my honor summons, and on the last desperate attempt I finally got the idol from summoning... -.- 54, FIFTY FOUR attempts and 3 days of nothing but Lossmass forest just for one freaking evolving unit... They really gotta up the rate on those bastards.

Oh well, happy to have finished my favorite monster. Team cost is 2 from being maxed out so now I have to level up before finishing my healer/swap someone for her if I evolve it.

Excited to try it out and level it up ^.^
 

Kreed

Member
Does it? Do Light units not take extra damage from Grah's super special attacks?

He can definitely mess up light units quickly, but the idea is to kill him quickly/get him to his scripted events as fast as possible depending on your team order/how many 6 star Lilith's you have access to. The infinite BB spam just speeds things up further. Ideally you would bring some tonics so that you can activate infinite BB as soon as the team is up.
 

HomesIice

Member
Finally!

Burned through 2 levels worth of bars trying to find an Earth Idol with no luck, all 54 of my honor summons, and on the last desperate attempt I finally got the idol from summoning... -.- 54, FIFTY FOUR attempts and 3 days of nothing but Lossmass forest just for one freaking evolving unit... They really gotta up the rate on those bastards.

Oh well, happy to have finished my favorite monster. Team cost is 2 from being maxed out so now I have to level up before finishing my healer/swap someone for her if I evolve it.

Excited to try it out and level it up ^.^

Congrats! Now to level up BB/SBB :p
Who do you have for a healer btw? Just curious
 
If you have Lilith/have a friend with Lilith's Super BB this becomes even easier.

He can definitely mess up light units quickly, but the idea is to kill him quickly/get him to his scripted events as fast as possible depending on your team order/how many 6 star Lilith's you have access to. The infinite BB spam just speeds things up further. Ideally you would bring some tonics so that you can activate infinite BB as soon as the team is up.
If I had a choice between a Lilith helper with SBB or a Grah, who would benefit me more in the fight? Extra stats and reduce damage from dark/light vs SBB every turn.
 

Kreed

Member
If I had a choice between a Lilith helper with SBB or a Grah, who would benefit me more in the fight? Extra stats and reduce damage from dark/light vs SBB every turn.

Definitely take your team(s) into consideration in addition to team placement. Is your helper going to be in the 1st team, the 2nd team, or the final team? Do you plan on beating enemy Grahdens with one main team + 2 fodder teams or with 2-3 teams? And of course, there's scripted attacks and what items you plan to bring.

6 star Lilith's leader skill is 65% attack when 5 different elements are part of the team. So if you're using a friend's Lilith you would want to take advantage of this to power her up further vs no benefits. Lilith will be taking double damage as well, so having her close to max is important in addition to a good sphere to boost her stats (she should be in the 7-8000 HP range with a Medulla Gem for example). Depending on when Lilith's team enters the battle and how many scripted events the team is supposed to live through in your strategy, you may have to bring revive items, since Lilith's infinite SBB spam will likely activate enemy Grahden's scripted attacks.

Grahdens however fits with any team build/placement. So if your team is a mono team for example, Grahdens would work better since you could also take advantage of seals.
 
Congrats! Now to level up BB/SBB :p
Who do you have for a healer btw? Just curious

Ice Apostle Tiara is my current one, her form before this was actually my very first pull in the game lol. Stuck with her this far though feeling like her overall healing has dropped off a lot, especially not digging the changing my element of attack to water when she does heal. But shes maxed now and 2 pots from her final so... no reason not to finish her at this point.

I found Elmo a while ago as well and seems like hes a better healer (?) so going to start that one on the side with w/e spare water exp units I find.
 

HomesIice

Member
Ice Apostle Tiara is my current one, her form before this was actually my very first pull in the game lol. Stuck with her this far though feeling like her overall healing has dropped off a lot, especially not digging the changing my element of attack to water when she does heal. But shes maxed now and 2 pots from her final so... no reason not to finish her at this point.

I found Elmo a while ago as well and seems like hes a better healer (?) so going to start that one on the side with w/e spare water exp units I find.

Elimo is one of the best healers you can find!
Pretty sure the best healer along with Tree in the whole game
 

chrono01

Member
Leveling SBB is so boring! My Ice Fortress Oulu is currently at SBB6, but I want to get him to 7 or 8 before I used Burst Frogs but my patience is waning...
 

Phades

Member
Leveling SBB is so boring! My Ice Fortress Oulu is currently at SBB6, but I want to get him to 7 or 8 before I used Burst Frogs but my patience is waning...

Yeah, especially when your unit is max level and you don't even see progress on the exp bar anymore. So many "great/super" successes and nothing happens...

At least you got it that far before getting stuck.
 

Phades

Member
No, the RNG just sucks and gets streaky. Some folks get it relatively quickly while others take hundreds of runs. I haven't read anything solid in regard to actual drop rate for the unit yet, or any kind of logic for unit appearance and capture rate.

Folks make the same style of complaints for Mare, but already have zebra. Of course both scenarios have lead to people defending the use of energy and 1 hit ko style hacks to "help" with the "farming" and then there is unit injection as well. Although a lot of those folks got hit with a ban (including some innocent ones) starting thursday night/friday morning last week.

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If you haven't already done so, exit out of the game and let it update. They (partially) released an update we were expecting involving the new quest map, items, and synthesis. Maxwell should be on the way any day now along with the new FH season.
 

Dreavus

Member
I've been idly pursuing 6 star forms on a few of my guys that just had their new forms released with no regard to my cost limits. I have two 6 stars in my squad with the rest being 5 and I'm two cost from being maxed out.

I guess I can sit on my evolution units for a while until I get a few more account levels?
 

HomesIice

Member
I've just been grinding that 4 Pillars stage in St. Lamia since I've run out of party cost
At least I'm getting some BB fodder :/
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Anyone else excited for that 'Themed' Rare summon batch?
Hope Duel/Michele are in there somewhere ahhh
 

Dreavus

Member
Does the chance to raise BB go down as it gets higher?

Wondering if there is a point to saving the frogs at all until BB lvl 8-9 instead of just using them right away?
 
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