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[Nesther]

This is why you don't pre-order.
Anyway, it's a shame. Sleeping Dogs was one of my favorite games of 2012.

 

[BigDug13]

Ah right. Metacritic. Defining what is and what isn't a AAA title since 2000.

All versions of Sleeping Dogs (barring XO) have a higher Metacritic than all versions of Destiny. Is Destiny a "b tier game" as well?

Yes. Yes it is.

 

[SapientWolf]

It is and the metacritic and sales reflect it
The strongest part is CQB combat and thats not up to par with Batman. Aside from that you have awful shooting and driving mechanics in a nice looking dead city

Play the game in black and white so you actually have to fight. It has the best combat in an open world game by far. And the story is great too. And the driving isn't awful, it's just shallow.

Also, if your rig is fight then get the PC port. The original, not the remaster.

 

[blackjaw]

Can I be a dick about this? I'm going to be a dick about this.

This is what happens when you force parity. Either you get an AC Unity and the PS4 isn't being used to its potential or you get a Sleeping Dogs/Alien Isolation and the Xbox One version runs like shit.

I'm gonna be a backseat game dev and just say that you should focus on the strengths of each system and use different rendering settings accordingly.

EDIT: Actually nope, PS4 version's absolute shit too.

That's not being a dick, that's just being plain ignorant.

Shitty port does not equal parity.

 

[gossi]

I just went flying through the City sky on my bike for no apparent reason. Still testing this.

 

[Anuson.Phan]

Its a shitty b tier game with high res textures for 60$. Absolute joke, Activision made the right call aborting this failure of a game. The driving and world are absolute shit. PS2 era world depth and driving

Imo it was better than gta.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Sounds like a rush job to beat GTA out the gate, and now it's backfired in their face.


Oh well, it wasn't a very good game to begin with.

 

[GavinUK86]

Sleeping Dogs was one of the greatest games of last gen so it's unfortunate this edition doesn't run well on current consoles.

I own the original on PC and it was flawless. The DE isn't great on there either but I put that down to my aging hardware.

Anyone who says it's a rubbish game because of the oh-so-mighty Metacritic needs to GTFO.

 

[Donos]

Imo it was better than gta.

Better than GTA 4, hell yeah but GTA 5 is on another level.

It's really a good game.

 

[SerTapTap]

Yeah, the reviews make it sound like a bad port, which is really embarrassing considering the $60 price tags. I don't mind well-done remasters (TLOU:R is great) but this just makes the whole idea look bad.

It is and the metacritic and sales reflect it
The strongest part is CQB combat and thats not up to par with Batman. Aside from that you have awful shooting and driving mechanics in a nice looking dead city

Destiny is sub-B tier confirmed, based on Metascore I guess.

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

Oh boy. I've just played two hours of this. From the opening cut scene it became clear there were serious performance issues. I ended up capturing that gameplay - horrible screen tearing at times, and sections of the main quests dipped to 15fps. No, not just a short dip - minutes of it.

Just - what.

Edit: the game is out in Europe today.

This has not been my experience on XBO. I haven't noticed many issues at all. I'll have some footage later today I can share.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Is the cpu on these consoles that bad? How can this dip into the teens?

 

[BigDug13]

Why would the OP mention "I captured footage" and yet not share any of it? Why even mention you captured footage at all?

 

[TheBaronOfNA]

Sounds like a rush job to beat GTA out the gate, and now it's backfired in their face.


Oh well, it wasn't a very good game to begin with.

Opinions at all... Specially because some people wanted to double dip.

 

[GavinUK86]

Why would the OP mention "I captured footage" and yet not share any of it? Why even mention you captured footage at all?

You look at Xbox One videos elsewhere and the frame rate looks okay. Bit suspicious.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

oh shit, im glad i didnt jump on it. i felt i had to wait! that was a good hunch, is DF gonna do a face off/analysis?

 

[gossi]

Why would the OP mention "I captured footage" and yet not share any of it? Why even mention you captured footage at all?

I also work for a living, so I haven't had time to put it together yet. Editing, transcoding, uploading takes time (ask Digital Foundry). I just did a quick Game DVR recording on a side mission as an example, I'll upload it now. It's not as good as a direct capture with fps counters but you get the idea.

 

[GlamFM]

You look at Xbox One videos elsewhere and the frame rate looks okay. Bit suspicious.

Absolutely not - you can see tearing all over the place. Just like OP said.

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Its a shitty b tier game with high res textures for 60$. Absolute joke, Activision made the right call aborting this failure of a game. The driving and world are absolute shit. PS2 era world depth and driving

Is it opposite day or something?

Sleeping Dogs is great. Everything about it is pretty AAA.

 

[BigDug13]

I also work for a living, so I haven't had time to put it together yet. Editing, transcoding, uploading takes time (ask Digital Foundry). I just did a quick Game DVR recording on a side mission as an example, I'll upload it now. It's not as good as a direct capture with fps counters but you get the idea.

Ok those excuses seem fine, but my point was you might as well have never said "I captured footage". It just sets the thread up to have expectations to see said footage.

 

[Khrno]

The driving and world are absolute shit. PS2 era world depth and driving

lol

SD has the best driving on a sandbox game (excluding Burnout Paradise and NFS Most Wanted), doing the races is an amazing experience, GTAV comes close, but still not enough.

 

[dancingphlower]

That's a shame. Sleeping Dogs deserves better than that.

 

[BigDug13]

lol

SD has the best driving on a sandbox game (excluding Burnout Paradise and NFS Most Wanted), doing the races is an amazing experience, GTAV comes close, but still not enough.

Weird. I loved SD but thought the driving was the weakest part. The races were often frustrating.

 

[Tidus_Great]

Its a shitty b tier game with high res textures for 60$. Absolute joke, Activision made the right call aborting this failure of a game. The driving and world are absolute shit. PS2 era world depth and driving

this ^^^

the only good aspect was the kung fu moves.

 

[Green Yoshi]

Is the cpu on these consoles that bad? How can this dip into the teens?

It has a clock.rate between 1,6 Ghz and 1,75 Ghz. Quite bad compared to modern PC CPUs.

I only played Sleeping Dogs on Xbox 360 and there everything was fine. Not the most beuatiful game, but it runs solid.

 

[Catdaddy]

Since SE came out and said that TR, Sleeping Dogs and Hitman Absolution were all failures cause they didn't sell 6 million copies each, sounds like they are trying to close that gap with a money grab. So wonder if we'll see Hitman Absolution now?

 

[Deadly Cyclone]

I'll post my footage (about 15 minutes of it) in a bit. I didn't notice near as much as the OP did.

 

[BusterJol]

Well I preordered this digitally on the Xbox...Hope something about patches get talked about to improve performance

 

[Crimsonclaw111]

F2P sequel (mainline spinoff?), shit ports to PS4/X1, and no major improvements from the PC version for folks on that system...

Enjoy your fire sale price soon, everybody.

 

[jacobeid]

Wow, they really can't get this right can they? First the price and then this?

I bought the game for $5 on steam and had rock solid 60fps on a relatively modest rig IMO (i5 2500 and a 2gb 7850).

 

[HawksWinStanley]

It's been reported it's bad.

Dat parity.

 

[gossi]

I have 512kbit/sec upload at home. Ha. Great.

Anyhoo - can I just be clear, I'm not saying the game is unplayable on Xbox One. I played for hours this morning. I was just commenting that it doesn't run very smooth in certain situations (e.g. smog on the streets with DOF effects etc) - it felt better on Xbox 360. This does not feel like the definitive experience. It feels like the engine can't keep up with the game now properly.

 

[The Boat]

lol

SD has the best driving on a sandbox game (excluding Burnout Paradise and NFS Most Wanted), doing the races is an amazing experience, GTAV comes close, but still not enough.

The driving in GTA V is a gigantic piece of shit, it's like you're driving a stick of butter on a road made of ice. Driving in SD is OK, not great, but not bad either, never had a problem with it.

 

[orava]

Understandable on the Xbone. Weird if PS4 runs bad, game performed well on my old 7850.

Them tiny jaguars.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Weird. I loved SD but thought the driving was the weakest part. The races were often frustrating.

Yeah, I thought the driving in Sleeping Dogs was awful. Definitely the worst part of the game.

 

[RayMaker]

Didn't UFG do the XB1 version of Tomb Raider DE. That turned out ok right?

Here is XB1 gameplay: http://youtu.be/8CmUuaylQZw

which sections are really bad in that clip?

Just skimming through it, it dont seem bad.

 

[eshwaaz]

I just checked Steam - you can no longer purchase the original version. Only the Definitive Edition is available.

 

[KefkaPalazzo]

Understandable on the Xbone.

Umm, no?

I had a feeling that this was going to be a rather lackluster "definitive" edition.

 

[Peterpan]

It has a clock.rate between 1,6 Ghz and 1,75 Ghz. Quite bad compared to modern PC CPUs.

That is really bad. Never knew they were that poor. Thought they were at least above 2.

 

[garbagejuicer]

That is really bad. Never knew they were that poor. Thought they were at least above 2.

That really doesn't tell the whole story. Jaguar is weak, but you can't just make that assumption based on clock rate alone.

Is a Pentium 4 at 3 GHz faster than an i3 Haswell at 2.4? No.

 

[BigTnaples]

Is it opposite day or something?

Sleeping Dogs is great. Everything about it is pretty AAA.

Nah. I had a great time with it, but it clearly was not on the level of say a GTA or Saints row game in terms of production value or polish.



Also, most gamees I know would consider Destiny a superior game, despite its flaws.

 

[Google]

Yeah, I thought the driving in Sleeping Dogs was awful. Definitely the worst part of the game.

I didnt think it was awful - it served a purpose - but it wasnt the reason I played and loved the game.

 

[AkuMifune]

Yeah, I thought the driving in Sleeping Dogs was awful. Definitely the worst part of the game.

Agreed with you guys, always hated the driving. The only thing uglier was trying to use melee against guys with guns.

Shame this didn't pan out. Was really a beautiful game on PC, was hoping the next-gen versions would rival it...

 

[bryanee]

Nah. I had a great time with it, but it clearly was not on the level of say a GTA or Saints row game in terms of production value or polish.

I'd say Sleeping Dogs is a hell of a lot more polished than any of the SR games.

 

[ak1276]

I'd say Sleeping Dogs is a hell of a lot more polished than any of the SR games.

More interesting, too.

 

[Qassim]

Nah. I had a great time with it, but it clearly was not on the level of say a GTA or Saints row game in terms of production value or polish.



Also, most gamees I know would consider Destiny a superior game, despite its flaws.

GTA? Yeah. Saints Row? Lol.

 

[bananafactory]

So who's saying the PS4 version is shit too? Anyone in here play it yet?

 

[bryanee]

So who's saying the PS4 version is shit too? Anyone in here play it yet?

Its crashed on me twice, both times when trying to load up a save. No screen tearing that I've seen and the frame rate has been fine so far, no real bad drops or anything yet. I'm having fun with it and it does look really nice at times, especially at night.

 

[bishoptl]

*sigh* I sold my 360 copy specifically to upgrade to the PS4 DE. Looks like I'll be trying to cop it back.

 

[Omega]

Ah right. Metacritic. Defining what is and what isn't a AAA title since 2000.

All versions of Sleeping Dogs (barring XO) have a higher Metacritic than all versions of Destiny. Is Destiny a "b tier game" as well?

destiny is more like c tier