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Nintendo under shipment woes strikes again with Bayo 2.
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TheBaldEmperor
Member
Well how is this? I preordered a copy ages ago at Gamestop and they didn't get enough to cover the preorders they had taken... So I'm waiting for another shipment that may come in today or Monday. Not pleased. My Gamestop has been great to me though and I've been going there for over 10 years. They are giving me some store credit or gift card for the inconvenience.
tim_pkmn89
Member
I'm seeing it in stock at about 20 Gamestops within driving range, plus all of the Best Buys in the same area.
For PC, 3DS and Vita I'm all digital. For whatever reason I still like buying physical Wii U games.
This is straight up bullshit and I hope you're just trolling.
Damn I preordered from GS on Tuesday and still got it.
Like I said before, those GS numbers are only up to date as of opening. They could all very well be out of stock.
PRjumpman124
Member
I'm hoping those comments about "undeserving" people who don't pre-order are sarcastic. Why shouldn't a newly released game (at least its regular edition) be available for anyone?
It should be available to anyone, but retailers aren't going to risk getting extra stock of a niche title on a poorly selling system to sit around and not get sold. Pre-orders give them an idea of how many they are going to sell, most people don't see it that way.
If anything, if you think it will be a short print/rare/niche (especially Nintendo) title, pre-ordering would be recommended. Remember Fire Emblem: Awakening?
Anti-pre-order people may have some trouble though, for the odd game that does end up getting hard to find. FE: A I remember sold out several times online, even :/ I don't get why do it on Amazon though? It's not like you have to pay anything, either.
This. I wish more understand how businesses work. No one wants to get stuck with huge stacks of unsold games. I remember seeing DOZENS of Metroid: Other M... Kirby's Epic Yarn too :/ I think these scared Ninty.
So you're going to not play a game you want now, on the off chance that you might have to make a phone call if something goes catastrophically wrong later.
Okay.
Living Proof
Member
The first store I went to was Meijer, which is a regional chain that never bothers to put any game in their case at launch that doesn't have "Call of Duty" in the title. They obviously didn't have it, but a quick check of other chains in the area showed Target and Best Buy having it in stock, and I'm certain toys r us and Wal-Mart had some, since I saw advertising for the game at TrU earlier this week and copies behind the case at walmart.
I drive around to retail stores all over my state for my job, so maybe I'll pop in a few stores in random areas to see if the situation is any different as far as stock is concerned. Online searches seems to show it's available almost everywhere, but that's not always reliable.
I'm in metro Detroit, but I bought my copy bear Ann Arbor... Maybe stores stocked up due to it being a college town. It'd be nice to find out the game is selling extraordinarily well, but I kind of expect someone just fucked up and didn't ship enough copies or stores didn't put in large orders due to middling demand. When will we find out sales data?
I drive around to retail stores all over my state for my job, so maybe I'll pop in a few stores in random areas to see if the situation is any different as far as stock is concerned. Online searches seems to show it's available almost everywhere, but that's not always reliable.
I'm in metro Detroit, but I bought my copy bear Ann Arbor... Maybe stores stocked up due to it being a college town. It'd be nice to find out the game is selling extraordinarily well, but I kind of expect someone just fucked up and didn't ship enough copies or stores didn't put in large orders due to middling demand. When will we find out sales data?
The game will be available to everyone, but if you didn't get a preorder you have to wait a couple of weeks for the second shipment. Preordering is confirming that you want the game on the day it comes out.
Not necessarily, IIRC the original was understocked too, and likely more to do with Bayonetta being so niche. My nearest Gamestop had ONE Bayonetta copy for PS3 way back in 2010. I visited the same location late yesterday to pick up Bayo 2 and the guy didn't even know where they were at first. Guess I'd been the first one to pick up a copy out of the three total. So low stock, but not exactly frothing demand.
SparksterMeta0
Member
I was aware of low stock when i entered Gamestop, but managed to get the last copy. It was unsealed, but it's not like I wasn't going to play it.
Still surprised they did this.
CMojicaAce
Member
I don't get why people don't check online to see if something is in stock before going out and wasting gas.
CastleRybread
Member
Pre-ordering is allowing for corporate entities to earn interest and other financial benefits from holding onto consumers money without having to provide those consumers with any kind of good or service for a designated period of time. Unless there is some incentive to pre-order, it is pointless IMO. Market research should indicate what levels a game needs to be ordered at.
I had to go to a second Best Buy to get my copy. Thought about waiting and getting the game a couple weeks from now, but decided to go ahead and get it.
I had to go to a second Best Buy to get my copy. Thought about waiting and getting the game a couple weeks from now, but decided to go ahead and get it.
Or call ahead, even. That's saved me PLENTY of trips. Well, except for those times that the Target employees didn't know what edition I was talking about (despite trying to be VERY clear on it) and driving out to find it's the wrong one -_- But that's another issue...
PRjumpman124
Member
It seems pretty obvious now but I hadn't quite thought about it that way before. I just remembered how hard it was for me to find W101 just a few months after release, and this will probably happen to Bayo 2...
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
My local GameStop only had one spare copy. Everything else was preordered.
this is the kind of game you preorder!
this is the kind of game you preorder!
Given my discount, I only buy with target. None of the stores in my district (north so cal) received bayo 2 nor fantasy life or even the pokemon art game. Total joke. ._.
Usually were undershipped, hell they even gave us one copy of ace attorney vs layton at launch, but no stock is annoying.
Usually were undershipped, hell they even gave us one copy of ace attorney vs layton at launch, but no stock is annoying.
This, this is lost on people.
You can't blame Nintendo here, they don't 'Undership" they ship every gosh darn copy they can. They can't, however, ship a game that a retailer doesn't order.
So blame retailers for not ordering a game.
geeze you guys, sometimes, I don't understand... This is standard retail practices.
I also don't blame retailers since Wii U software doesn't sell like gangbusters unless it is a huge well known release. I can see any retailer who was stuck with copies of W101 taking a bare minimum in stock.
So again, be mad at your favored retailer for not ordering enough, because Nintendo can't force them to take games they don't want.
CadetMahoney
Member
Pretty much, I don't blame them myself.
past performance may help with figuring out how a game might sell, but for smaller titles, preorders actually are everything. you're not wrong in the first part, but that's not all they're good for. it's how retailers gauge demand.
so the relationship kinda goes like this: developer -> publisher -> distributor -> vendor (retailer) -> customer. sometimes, the developer and the publisher and the distributor are all the same. for bayonetta 2 though, nintendo funded the game as a publisher and also used their distribution arm to talk to the vendor to sell the game. the vendor is only going to order as many as they think they can sell. sometimes a vendor may be sweet-talked into taking more games than they would want if the distributor guarantees price protection (the ability to lower the price of the game and the distributor/publisher to cover it), or some extra incentive to get people to purchase on the first day (day one dlc, art books, etc).
with niche games the situation is even more fragmented. for example something like danganronpa is a case of a publisher buying the license of a japanese game to sell in another region. then they sell the products to a distributor who in turn sells those products to a vendor. i'm not 100% sure, but in those cases, it would be slightly more difficult to reach a sort of deal considering there are more fingers in the pie.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Relax dude smh
It definitely happened with Wario Ware Smooth Moves and Pokemon Battle Revolution last fen, they only had 1 print run.
Back then when I saw first party titles getting price drops, I figured it wasn't a good sign... Coupling that with the option of digital purchases, making less copies is a more safe bet on both Nintendo and retailers' part. I think unless it's Pokemon etc, Nintendo will keep the printings fairly minimal, as will retailers on copies purchased. Eshop cards can always be recommended!
This was my situation as well. I was thinking the same thing, that the game wasn't doing to hot in my area for day 1.
The OP must live in a good area where people have fantastic taste in games!
SerTapTap
Member
Why on earth is there no mention of Amazon or any online store in the OP? If you're only looking in physical stores and still didn't look online after striking out locally I don't know what to tell you. You obviously have an internet connection, get it on Amazon. If they're not in stock the "don't have to wait for shipping" excuse is invalid (not that it"s ever valid, amazon almost always does release date delivery for big games)
entremet
Member
I live in NYC. No car needed.
Theanine3D
Member
Surprised to see so much preordering elitism. Not everyone can buy a game day-1 you guys.
I didn't preorder because I won't be able to actually play the game until December when I'm off university. So I just couldn't justify the purchase right now, let alone a preorder.
If the game isn't available at retail anywhere in December I'm going to be sad.
I didn't preorder because I won't be able to actually play the game until December when I'm off university. So I just couldn't justify the purchase right now, let alone a preorder.
If the game isn't available at retail anywhere in December I'm going to be sad.
Its a bit of both. Nintendo doesn't just have millions sitting on hand waiting for baited breath to be ordered. Nintendo themselves make a run that retailers then order from. Nintendo has been quite conservative with their runs lately. !any examples this gen a lone. So, it is a mix of both.
GameStop isn't exactly known for being smart with orders either. Probably millions of unsold Destiny on store shelves right now. Lol
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
I agree, getting my games on release date is awfully trashy.
OmegaDL50
Member
This is probably anecdotal
I live in a major US city (Philadelphia)
I went to Walmart to pick up the game on release day and it wasn't on shelves, They went in the backroom to check their shipments and nothing.
I hit the Best Buy next and again there was no copies on shelves, In the stockroom they only had a single box with SIX copies, thats right only SIX.
Considering in a 10 mile radius from where I live there is like 4 Walmarts, two Targets, Bestbuy, and at least a dozen Gamestop and EB stores.
Still going to two major chains and one of them having only 6 copies entirely available kind of paints a rather bleak picture.
I live in a major US city (Philadelphia)
I went to Walmart to pick up the game on release day and it wasn't on shelves, They went in the backroom to check their shipments and nothing.
I hit the Best Buy next and again there was no copies on shelves, In the stockroom they only had a single box with SIX copies, thats right only SIX.
Considering in a 10 mile radius from where I live there is like 4 Walmarts, two Targets, Bestbuy, and at least a dozen Gamestop and EB stores.
Still going to two major chains and one of them having only 6 copies entirely available kind of paints a rather bleak picture.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Not really how it works, that means that retailers under estimated demand and didn't purchase enough stock from Nintendo. Nintendo as a seller would want stores to buy as many copies as possible, that's where their revenue comes from.
It's not like they determine to mail out Xxx of units to store and under ship, their sales teams job is to get their customers (Walmart, target, Etc) to buy from them in as large as quanitiy as they are willing to carry.
Some retailers though don't even take M rated wii u games in any more, or in limited amounts or so due to poor sales
It's not like they determine to mail out Xxx of units to store and under ship, their sales teams job is to get their customers (Walmart, target, Etc) to buy from them in as large as quanitiy as they are willing to carry.
Some retailers though don't even take M rated wii u games in any more, or in limited amounts or so due to poor sales
This need to go in the OP honestly, because this is how it works. Target had stopped carrying 3rd party M games on Wii U last year, so I am not surprised they didn't buy a lot of copies.
Living Proof
Member
A lot of big chains have systems that don't reflect actual stock properly. While they scan and remove a copy from inventory with every sale, the actual count online doesn't always get updated immediately-- sometimes it takes hours, or even until the next day at opening, for it to synch. I remember trying to pick up a LBW 3DS XL from Walmart on a price match, and even though their system said they had two in stock, they were long gone (or hidden in the back stockroom somewhere, I suppose).
Gamestop is known to do this, as several people have already stated in this thread. Their website shows what they have in stock at the time of opening, and doesn't change for hours-- enough time for a hot new release to completely sell out.
OT: There's no point in chiding people over this. People are used to walking into retailers and grabbing a game on release date, because every major retailer typically has an excessive amount of copies available. While the circumstance behind this being supposedly hard to find is likely due to low preorders and Wii U retail performance in general, you can't fault people for doing something that they are accustomed to-- call it ignorance on their part, but it's an issue far larger than "shoulda preordered."
It's kind of sad that people who want the game aren't able to get it, no matter how you look at. everyone berating those who can't find a copy should stop and think about how fucked up this is on a larger scale.
andthebeatgoeson
Junior Member
Why can't op just buy digital?
But that's a choice on your part. You could always purchase now, play later. I still believe that Bayo 1 won't be a permanent feature, so there is a possibility that a second printing may not even contain it.
Yep. The same is said at every similar thread, yet there's this thing about "I don't want to give my money early to Gamestop!! With interests, that's like a million dollars!!!".
CertifiedFP
Member
I really can't understand why people defend preorder culture simply because Nintendo. After being burnt by everything I have preordered over the past 5 years, why would I make an exception for Nintendo? That list of games I preordered and got burnt on happens to include none other than Other M.
But god forbid someone waits for impressions of a game before going to get it. That said, it's not like this is a repeat of Xenoblade US release debacle all over again - eShop, my friends, use it.
But god forbid someone waits for impressions of a game before going to get it. That said, it's not like this is a repeat of Xenoblade US release debacle all over again - eShop, my friends, use it.