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[Bgamer90]

By what metric is the bundle doing "better" than what is expected and how you attributing that to graphics when the thing just got a price cut?

Heh, why are you getting defensive?

My main point is that it's a new COD that looks MUCH better than last gen COD; as long as that's true, many people will get the game.

And yes, the bundle is doing well. It was doing well even before it got a price cut. Many didn't think it would do well due to its price.

 

[stryke]

Heh, why are you getting defensive?

My main point is that it's a new COD that looks MUCH better than last gen COD; as long as that's true, many people will get the game.

And yes, the bundle is doing well. It was doing well even before it got a price cut. Many didn't think it would do well due to its price.

I'm simply asking what you're looking at to come to the conclusion that the bundle is doing well. Not a hard question.

 

[null_]

Actually I'd say the overall differences (resolution + framerate + visual quality + geometric detail) were usually greater on most multiplats last gen when compared to X1 and PS4.

Well that's definitely an interesting thing to say...

 

[Bgamer90]

I'm simply asking what you're looking at to come to the conclusion that the bundle is doing well. Not a hard question.

"Not a hard question"? Heh, anyway...

Very good shipments/pre-orders in retail stores and online stores like Amazon.

 

[Son of Sam]

If I had both systems and all else are equal, Id def get the PS4 version. Who wouldn't?

But all else aren't equal- controller preference, player base and friends, online functionality should also be factored in when picking which console to buy a game on.

 

[gtj1092]

Heh, why are you getting defensive?

My main point is that it's a new COD that looks MUCH better than last gen COD; as long as that's true, many people will get the game.

And yes, the bundle is doing well. It was doing well even before it got a price cut. Many didn't think it would do well due to its price.

No it wasn't. It was never near the top 20 before the price cut.


Also when did you start getting retail data?

 

[down 2 orth]

Well, I'm glad to see that its only Ubisoft who's totally catering to the lowest common denominator so far.

 

[Kilau]

A lot of people can't tell the difference and to those that can it isn't a huge deal

I'll admit that there are people that can't tell the difference but I can, and to me it is a huge deal.

It's not about "console wars", it's been important to me for a long time to play games at the best resolution for my display.

 

[stryke]

"Not a hard question"? Heh, anyway...

Very good shipments/pre-orders in retail stores and online stores like Amazon.

Do you have some sort of OCD that requires you to answer "heh" every time?

Are you somehow talking to every retail store and asking what their numbers are like?

And looking at Amazon, the COD bundle is ranked #80 for October. Yeah, impressive.

 

[Elios83]

Well, I'm glad to see that its only Ubisoft who's totally catering to the lowest common denominator so far.

Seems that way but we won't know the full story until the game is out. There's a chance that they might be struggling on their own with that game and resolution isn't the only differentiating factor.
Btw 900p vs 1080p seems a good compromise considering the underpowered XB1 GPU, that is if the rest is the same.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

"Not a hard question"? Heh, anyway...

Very good shipments/pre-orders in retail stores and online stores like Amazon.

I wouldn't look at the best sellers list of Amazon US, if I were you...

 

[Cj01]

Why do you even own a PS4? Just buy for the system you want if the resolution is that important to you.

I think people are making a mountain out of a mole hill. I get that the same thing happened last gen where people scoffed at the PS3 but it was stupid then too (granted I wasn't around GAF at the time so I was almost totally unaware of the issue). There is literally nothing to discuss. It is a statement of fact followed by pages and pages of people either saying "HA PS4 MOAR POWER" or people saying "resolution doesn't matter" or the most ridiculous, "Xbox is holding PS4 back." They are stupid comments (even though I myself have put forth the resolution doesn't matter, because to me it doesn't. I make stupid comments from time to time... a lot of the time)

If it were not for these comments posts like this would fall off the first page and never be seen again. Then how would we ever know what the resolution is! We might have to count the pixels ourselves!

I have it because I still love Sony Exclusives like inFamous and Uncharted. Check my Trophy card I have a plat in inFamous SS

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

But all else aren't equal- controller preference, player base and friends, online functionality should also be factored in when picking which console to buy a game on.

...Paging Rex

This is true, though. Those things are important, too. But such subjective facets of a console are difficult to argue and don't add a ton to the discussion, and serve mostly to derail resolution threads more often than not.

 

[Chobel]

Heh, why are you getting defensive?

My main point is that it's a new COD that looks MUCH better than last gen COD; as long as that's true, many people will get the game.

And yes, the bundle is doing well. It was doing well even before it got a price cut. Many didn't think it would do well due to its price.

I have hard time believing that part, in Amazon before the price cut, the game was barely charting.

Everytime I read through a resolution thread I can't help but imagine there is some sort of email notification list that alerts any and all Xbox faithful to come to the defense of their lesser performing console by shit posting, thread whining and generally obfuscating. Perhaps it's something like this:

Spoiler

This message brought to you by the letter S as in SARCASM since we all know this done completely free of charge and encouragement which makes it even more depressing

LOL! This is really good.

 

[The_R3medy]

I honestly couldn't care less about the resolution stuff anymore. It's just getting so tiresome.

edit: grammar error

 

[shacklesmcgee]

I honestly couldn't care less about the resolution stuff anymore. It's just getting so tiresome.

edit: grammar error

Why even enter the thread? This is equivalent to seeing a bunch of people stand under a banner that says "chocolate cupcakes", walking over, telling them "chocolate cupcakes are terrible why are you even talking about them ugh", then walking away

 

[AzerPhire]

I'd take the one with the better online infrastructure over the one with 180 extra p's.

 

[AmyS]

As far as native resolutions of CoD games last-gen on both 360 and PS3, they were all always below 1280 x 720, and therefore natively sub-HD regardless of what res your console was set to (720p, 1080i, 1080p). The upscaling on either console doesn't mean anything as far as what native res the game is rendering at.


So (correct me if I'm wrong) technically speaking, CoD Ghosts on Xbox One (native 720p) was the first Call of Duty game on an Xbox console meet the minimum resolution for HD (1280 x 720).

 

[ComputerBlue]

Why even enter the thread? This is equivalent to seeing a bunch of people stand under a banner that says "chocolate cupcakes", walking over, telling them "chocolate cupcakes are terrible why are you even talking about them ugh", then walking away

LOL that got a good laugh out of me.

 

[Jimrpg]

Still?

This type of thing will last the whole generation then if they can't get it sorted.

 

[Bgamer90]

No it wasn't. It was never near the top 20 before the price cut.

Also when did you start getting retail data?

Don't know how the Amazon rankings were for the whole month but it was doing solid in some stores in my area (and apparently other areas based on some posts here) before the price cut -- better than other bundles even though it's more expensive. Big COD fans I guess.
________________

Do you have some sort of OCD that requires you to answer "heh" every time?

I usually only do it when I don't understand why I'm getting a snarky reply; I can still sense the snark.

And looking at Amazon, the COD bundle is ranked #80 for October. Yeah, impressive.

Regular Xbox One bundle is higher on that list for the month; the COD bundle has been doing better than that SKU all week on Amazon even though both models got a price cut. Hence why I think it's more so the fact that "COD hype" is building up as we get closer to the game's launch instead of it being simply about price and nothing more.

 

[NoMoreTrolls]

I'd take the one with the better online infrastructure over the one with 180 extra p's.

I hate the "### extra p's" shit. Yes, I'm calling you out. It's stupid.

And, objectively, what percent of the time has psn been down? I'd like a metric to compare, because it's apparently such a huge amount of time that it completely overshadows the hard difference in performance.

 

[Pinkman_ABQ]

I'd take the one with the better online infrastructure over the one with 180 extra p's.

Great, thanks for sharing. Your $3 check is in the mail.

 

[Kilau]

I hate the "### extra p's" shit. Yes, I'm calling you out. It's stupid.

I'm sure there are people that think it really is just 180 pixels difference. Yes it's annoying.

 

[Wynnebeck]

I'd take the one with the better online infrastructure over the one with 180 extra p's.

Like I said before, PSN is more than serviceable enough to enjoy CoD and plus it has 1080p. Sounds like a win-win to me.

 

[Kibbles]

But is the framerate good on PS4 this time around? I try to play Ghosts with friends and the framerate is baddd in Multiplayer

 

[Beer Monkey]

Well that's definitely an interesting thing to say...

Maybe history is being rewritten but most X1 and PS4 multiplatform games look a hell of a lot the same outside of the resolution difference where present. Go read old Digital Foundry comparisons from last gen. There were asstons of multiplat games where PS3 had inferior visuals. More tearing, reduced geometry, reduced texture detail, worse framerates, et al. Things are much closer this gen, probably because both of these systems are easier to program and have more similar architectures.

 

[Windom Earle]

I'd take the one with the better online infrastructure over the one with 180 extra p's.

Stream of salt in this thread is pretty strong.

 

[Americanmushroom]

I'd take the one with the better online infrastructure over the one with 180 extra p's.

PC ?

 

[lonedigitalwolf]

Like I said before, PSN is more than serviceable enough to enjoy CoD and plus it has 1080p. Sounds like a win-win to me.

Dude quit it, you're making sense...

 

[Unknown One]

Graphic detractors in a thread related to graphic tech sure are annoying.

 

[RoboPlato]

Maybe history is being rewritten but most X1 and PS4 multiplatform games look a hell of a lot the same outside of the resolution difference where present. Go read old Digital Foundry comparisons from last gen. There were asstons of multiplat games where PS3 had inferior visuals. More tearing, reduced geometry, reduced texture detail, worse framerates, et al. Things are much closer this gen, probably because both of these systems are easier to program and have more similar architectures.

Every single one of those differences you've mentioned have been present in PS4/XBO comparisons, often along side resolution differences.

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

cool still getting on X1 though thats where all my friends are a little difference in resolution is not a big deal

 

[jayu26]

Maybe history is being rewritten but most X1 and PS4 multiplatform games look a hell of a lot the same outside of the resolution difference where present. Go read old Digital Foundry comparisons from last gen. There were asstons of multiplat games where PS3 had inferior visuals. More tearing, reduced geometry, reduced texture detail, worse framerates, et al. Things are much closer this gen, probably because both of these systems are easier to program and have more similar architectures.

Eh! May be it is you who should read PS4/Xbone digital foundry articles...

 

[AzerPhire]

PC ?

Of course PC is best but hasn't the PC version of Call of Duty's been plagued by cheaters?

 

[boredandlazy]

Nevermind...

 

[Windom Earle]

cool still getting on X1 though thats where all my friends are a little difference in resolution is not a big deal

This comment is very fresh in this thread and your tag is amazing.

 

[Shin-Ra]

The Second Runner (Zone of the Enders) HexaDrive HD Remaster renders wireframes with 32xMSAA. I wonder if the same could have been done with the weapon HUD in this.

 

[stryke]

Don't know how the Amazon rankings were for the whole month but it was doing solid in some stores in my area (and apparently other areas based on some posts here) before the price cut -- better than other bundles even though it's more expensive. Big COD fans I guess.
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I usually only do it when I don't understand why I'm getting a snarky reply; I can still sense the snark.

Regular Xbox One bundle is higher on that list for the month; the COD bundle has been doing better than that SKU all week on Amazon even though both models got a price cut. Hence why I think it's more so the fact that "COD hype" is building up as we get closer to the game's launch instead of it being simply about price and nothing more.

You should stop being so paranoid. I challenged your statement and somehow you perceive that as an attack. I have an amateurish interest in sales so that's why I picked up on your assessment on the COD bundle sales performance because I haven't seen anything to suggest how it's doing in the wider scope of things.

And your anecdotal evidence and attempt to draw conclusions from hourly Amazon charts is not good enough. Since this is way offtopic, let's try this again when the prediction thread comes up.

 

[NBtoaster]

As far as native resolutions of CoD games last-gen on both 360 and PS3, they were all always below 1280 x 720, and therefore natively sub-HD regardless of what res your console was set to (720p, 1080i, 1080p). The upscaling on either console doesn't mean anything as far as what native res the game is rendering at.


So (correct me if I'm wrong) technically speaking, CoD Ghosts on Xbox One (native 720p) was the first Call of Duty game on an Xbox console meet the minimum resolution for HD (1280 x 720).

COD2 was 720p.

 

[WordsintheWater]

I'm with your point about the difference being trivial. People are just using this as an excuse to engage in covert console wars. I would be getting it on the ps4 as that's my console but I don't think that 900p versus 1080p is a big deal. A lot of people can't tell the difference and to those that can it isn't a huge deal,and it's not a big differentiator compared to more important things like controller preference, services or content. It's just an easy point to argue since it's a hard number. It also does outline the obsession with graphics etc over playing the game; I've played mario galaxy and it was a better game than this will be and that is a million times more important than graphics. These conversations take away from tue oneswe need to have about game design.

This thread is about resolution, if you want to talk game design make another thread, I'm sure there will be plenty of people there to discuss it with you. And I dunno about you, but me owning both systems I really want the best experience and 1080p is better than 900p so why not?

 

[RexNovis]

...Paging Rex

You rang?

I hate the "### extra p's" shit. Yes, I'm calling you out. It's stupid.

And, objectively, what percent of the time has psn been down? I'd like a metric to compare, because it's apparently such a huge amount of time that it completely overshadows the hard difference in performance.

Great, thanks for sharing. Your $3 check is in the mail.

I'm sure there are people that think it really is just 180 pixels difference. Yes it's annoying.

Like I said before, PSN is more than serviceable enough to enjoy CoD and plus it has 1080p. Sounds like a win-win to me.

guys guys calm down. They are just doing their civic duty as members of the Xbox nation. Didn't you see the email I posted? Seriously though it's uncanny just how accurate my "argument" summary has proven via the subsequent responses.

 

[Phreak47]

I just read this thread. When I saw the first deuce get dropped in the form of, "Okay, you said it, now what is there to discuss?", I thought well hell, why talk about anything then? I thought of posing this question. Then I realized, without reading the rest, there were definitely 13 pages full of people that have already gotten that job done.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

The funniest thing to me about the peeps that come into these threads to say "Well those technical differences don't matter to me!" is that it should be common sense that any technical disparity will mean different things to different people.

So no it may not mean something to someone, and that doesn't make them wrong or a console warrior (though... more often than not...) but it does make them an idiot for voicing those opinions and trying to squelch debate in a thread specifically created to discuss technical differences.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

cool still getting on X1 though thats where all my friends are a little difference in resolution is not a big deal

Thanks for sharing. I was wondering where you'd fall on the whole "buy/not buy" vis á vis the resolution difference.

 

[Nickels]

Which still adds absolutely nothing to an resolution topic.
If you're and others are so eager to talk about it, the OT works pretty great.

These answers just don't bring anything into the discussion, they just blow it up and people will provoke each other and we know the circle...

It's fine to choose whatever platform you prefer, but it comes across as justifying or a more harmless version of thread whining.
The size of NeoGaf has gotten so big over the years, topics like these easily get blown out of proportion.

Plus the actual discussion wouldn't even be constantly on page 1, if people didn't bring it up over and over again.

Yet what is there to add to the topic of discussion? The PS4 has proven on paper and in the pudding (the actual games) to be the more powerful system and capable of beating XB1 in resolution and/or framerate. Like some here have asked, why is this even news? This is now blatantly obvious and not really anything to discuss.

Naturally the thread has gone 13 pages because some people are saying they dont care as much about resolution as they do other benefits of the lesser resolution version. Without the thread going in that direction, what is there to discuss again? Oh yeah, the more powerful console has a higher resolution than the lesser powered console.

 

[lonedigitalwolf]

Yet what is there to add to the topic of discussion? The PS4 has proven on paper and in the pudding (the actual games) to be the more powerful system and capable of beating XB1 in resolution and/or framerate. Like some here have asked, why is this even news? This is now blatantly obvious and not really anything to discuss.

Naturally the thread has gone 13 pages because some people are saying they dont care as much about resolution as they do other benefits of the lesser resolution version. Without the thread going in that direction, what is there to discuss again? Oh yeah, the more powerful console has a higher resolution than the lesser powered console.

There were concerns that we could've had another ACU like scenario, so there's that too.

 

[Michael F. Assbender]

Yet what is there to add to the topic of discussion? The PS4 has proven on paper and in the pudding (the actual games) to be the more powerful system and capable of beating XB1 in resolution and/or framerate. Like some here have asked, why is this even news? This is now blatantly obvious and not really anything to discuss.

Naturally the thread has gone 13 pages because some people are saying they dont care as much about resolution as they do other benefits of the lesser resolution version. Without the thread going in that direction, what is there to discuss again? Oh yeah, the more powerful console has a higher resolution than the lesser powered console.

Why is that for you to worry about? Let those who want to discuss the resolution do so without attempting to derail the thread.

 

[le.phat]

Yet what is there to add to the topic of discussion? The PS4 has proven on paper and in the pudding (the actual games) to be the more powerful system and capable of beating XB1 in resolution and/or framerate. Like some here have asked, why is this even news? This is now blatantly obvious and not really anything to discuss.

Naturally the thread has gone 13 pages because some people are saying they dont care as much about resolution as they do other benefits of the lesser resolution version. Without the thread going in that direction, what is there to discuss again? Oh yeah, the more powerful console has a higher resolution than the lesser powered console.

Nothing adds more to the discussion of a topic then a threadwhining post that ironically adds nothing to the discussion of the topic of said thread.

 

[Piggus]

This comment is very fresh in this thread and your tag is amazing.

It amazes me that so many people miraculously have loads of Xbone-owning friends and yet, despite the PS4 selling a lot better, very few people seem to have PS4-owning friends.

PS4 owners don't have friends confirmed. ;_;