MoodyFog
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we need to split Facebook up, they have a monopoly on social networking
They don't. Twitter and linkedin's numbers are very good, for example.
we need to split Facebook up, they have a monopoly on social networking
It might be, it might not be. It is something they can always come and explain, but it is stuff like that which the EU is looking at.
I said the World Wide Web. You spend most of your internet time on the WWW.
lol european parliament fuck off.
Tim Berners-Lee and Robert Cailliau are considered the inventors of the web.
For instance: Have Google applications like Search, Maps and others always worked equally good on iOS and Windows Phone as they did on Android?
It was more around 2000 when the bubble burst.
Lol if that's your argument then you can levy that argument against any internet company that holds your private data.
One does not tell a political organization that can fine you 5 billion at will to "fuck off". What are you, 12?
One does not tell a political organization that can fine you 5 billion at will to "fuck off".
He just did.
No. Part of them are coming from ARPA. The concept of packet switching is Welsh, the French CYCLADES placed responsibility of the correct packets on the connecting points and not the packet, ...And the protocols and backbones of the internet were developed in the US.
It always impresses me and makes me simultaneously jealous when euro government tries to work for the people and limit corporate power while our government bends over and spreads its cheeks for big business.
They don't. Twitter and linkedin's numbers are very good, for example.
It always impresses me and makes me simultaneously jealous when euro government tries to work for the people and limit corporate power while our government bends over and spreads its cheeks for big business.
European politicians have grown increasingly concerned about Google's and other American companies' command of the Internet industry, and have sought ways to curb their power.
the numbers don't matter, its the percentage of use.
Google Search has the same percentage of use as Facebook does in social media. (~65%)
Break em up!
I don't know. Potentially breaking Google Now functionality for me doesn't seem like a solution I was looking for.It always impresses me and makes me simultaneously jealous when euro government tries to work for the people and limit corporate power while our government bends over and spreads its cheeks for big business.
Than you are wrong, the Union has often fined European companies and governments for what they felt was anti-competitive behaviour, like state support in unnecessary cases.But it sounds like if Google was a European company, they wouldn't be making a big deal out of this.
Worldwide. In Europe Google owns 90% of the search market. But again, it is not that dominance that is the problem. It is the interconnectivity of their dominances.the numbers don't matter, its the percentage of use.
Google Search has the same percentage of use as Facebook does in social media. (~65%)
Break em up!
But it sounds like if Google was a European company, they wouldn't be making a big deal out of this.
It's not just this though. Stuff like warranties on electronics, the way compensation for weather delays on flights work, and some other little anecdotes I've heard but have now forgotten just leave me in awe.But it sounds like if Google was a European company, they wouldn't be making a big deal out of this.
But it sounds like if Google was a European company, they wouldn't be making a big deal out of this.
Than you are wrong, the Union has often fined European companies and governments for what they felt was anti-competitive behaviour, like state support in unnecessary cases.
There's a pretty big difference between the internet and the world wide web
They aren't working for the people, here. This only hurts consumers.
He just did.
If google happily hand it the multi-bilion dollar fine like Microsoft did, I am sure EU doesn't care if google fanboys want to yell a few more "fuck off".
So the lesson is don`t get to successful or government will chop you back down to the level of mediocrity like everyone else.
I mean, who is arguing for untampered companies and no regulation in this thread?ITT: People who don't understand the risk that comes with allowing monopolies to exist untampered with.
ITT: People who don't understand the risk that comes with allowing monopolies to exist untampered with.
Google fanboys? Are you really suggesting anyone against this must just be a fanboy?
Pretty much. What a fucking joke. Sounds like if anything it's them that should have less power, not Google.
Google fanboys? Are you really suggesting anyone against this must just be a fanboy?
I suggest people who make "LOL XXX fuck off!" type posts are fanboys.
Or a libertarian, I simply can not comprehend why some people do not see the risks or are willing to overlook them if the product happens to be good. One would think that people would start to realize that concentration of wealth and monopoly power is not a good thing at this point, given what the economic prospects are for most people these days.
Do people honestly not see how Google being a knowledge powerhouse of interconnected services that has 90% of the market in Europe is not a bad thing for competitors, old and new ?
Yes, Google services are good, great even.That is beside the point, completely meaningless to the issue. Choice in the market, again meaningless with this issue.
When Google leverage their vast knowledge base to expand into other markets, growing ever more knowledgable with their connected services, beating companies to the punch, walking into markets with their big footprint, making any competitor inroads virtually impossible, you have a problem that needs sorting.
LOL a foreign government thinks it has the power to decide the fate of an American tech giant?
Fuck off and go focus on Ukraine, you senile, sterile and dysfunctional bag of flaccid dicks.
Do you not see how it would be bad for internet users if you ruin all of that?
I mean, who is arguing for untampered companies and no regulation in this thread?
Did Google engage in monopolistic tactics and anti-competitive behavior that warrants them being broken up a la AT&T or other classic examples? Or are people expecting and predicting they will?
What's so bad about a company amassing monopoly power?
When firms have such power, they charge prices that are higher than can be justified based upon the costs of production, prices that are higher than they would be if the market was more competitive. With higher prices, consumers will demand less quantity, and hence the quantity produced and consumed will be lower than it would be under a more competitive market structure.
The bottom line is that when companies have a monopoly, prices are too high and production is too low. There's an inefficient allocation of resources.
In addition, the tactics used to establish monopoly power, such as driving competitors out of business or thwarting potential entrants, can also cause considerable harm to households who own the businesses that are forced to close their doors.
For instance, a firm with deep pockets can set prices below costs and absorb losses until competitors can no longer survive. Then, once the competition is eliminated, the surviving firm can raise prices high enough to more than cover the losses it took while establishing its now-dominant market position (under antitrust regulation, such tactics are prohibited).
The problems with monopolies go beyond the economic effects. Many large, economically powerful companies also have considerable political influence and the ability to "capture" the political and regulatory process. This allows a powerful firm to tilt the legal and regulatory processes against any potential threat to its market power, and to bring about changes that further enhance the profits it earns.
It can get health and safety regulations removed, have licensing requirements imposed that make it harder for new firms to enter a market, avoid state sales taxes for online retailers, or get invited to speak at congressional hearings on matters such as immigration and corporate taxation.
When an industry has just a few dominant firms, or a single dominant firm, market power can be significant. But when the number of companies is sufficiently large, the power of any one is considerably muted.
As a European citizen I am all in favor of this.
Go, overpaid bureaucrats and has-been politicians!
Apple should be next.
It might make Android phones worse. That would be bad for people who like Android phones.No?
What would be so terrible if, say, Android and Google Search were run by different companies?
What does Apple has a monopoly on?
Do people honestly not see how Google being a knowledge powerhouse of interconnected services that has 90% of the market in Europe is not a bad thing for competitors, old and new ?
Yes, Google services are good, great even.That is beside the point, completely meaningless to the issue. Choice in the market, again meaningless with this issue.
When Google leverage their vast knowledge base to expand into other markets, growing ever more knowledgable with their connected services, beating companies to the punch, walking into markets with their big footprint, making any competitor inroads virtually impossible, you have a problem that needs sorting.