You're seeing a grab from a highly compressed source. And then, just her face.
I promise there's an intricately dressed body in that scene. I'll find a better shot for you.
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Uncharted 4 Gameplay Demo [Up: Sony - Was running at 30 fps]
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You're seeing a grab from a highly compressed source. And then, just her face.
I promise there's an intricately dressed body in that scene. I'll find a better shot for you.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, it is not a super flattering shot. AC U does indeed have some great models though, just not quite in the league of UC4...
Eh I have seen it, it looks good. Yeah the clothing looks nice. But again, the models definitely don't look as good as UC4. SSS is much better in the screen above and makes a big difference I think.
If this is pre-alpha, potentially how old is this build? My understanding is that at this stage of development getting it to a stable framerate at all is an achievement.
OT - haven't seen the uncompressed footage from Gamersyde yet, but watching it on YT on the TV app it mostly looked great, but some of the textures looked muddy. Having said that, the foliage, water, draw distance etc were all great, and hell man, I'd forgotten how great Uncharted gameplay is! Might have to fire up 2&3 on the triple...
OT - haven't seen the uncompressed footage from Gamersyde yet, but watching it on YT on the TV app it mostly looked great, but some of the textures looked muddy. Having said that, the foliage, water, draw distance etc were all great, and hell man, I'd forgotten how great Uncharted gameplay is! Might have to fire up 2&3 on the triple...
justsomeguy
Member
OK I've only played a couple of hours of Uncharted before (I think it was the 2nd one?) and only played the most recent Tomb Raider, none of the precursors, so please take this as a genuine question not a troll.
But I was completely struck by this video of U4 massively reminding me of the last Tomb Raider (which I loved). Was TR inspired by previous Uncharteds? Or is U4 just showing a segment of gameplay that's not typical of the series, but just happens to remind me of TR?
But I was completely struck by this video of U4 massively reminding me of the last Tomb Raider (which I loved). Was TR inspired by previous Uncharteds? Or is U4 just showing a segment of gameplay that's not typical of the series, but just happens to remind me of TR?
It's Sam.
nelsonroyale
Member
Uncharted and the new tomb raider are pretty damn similar. TR took some inspiration from Uncharted, big inspiration for the last outing. I think they have taken a few qeues from TR here coupled with a lot of influence from the Last of Us. The level design here looks better than what I played in TR though.
Yeah I remember seeing that black dude and thinking he was pretty damn real.
I'm really happy to see this stuff in real time. Down with video cutscenes.
And yes, the clothing she has there is super detailed, I guess I was thinking about faces only for now.
My goodness how old are you? FPS is one of the biggest factor when they design the engine. You cannot just go for 30 FPS first then increase to 60 FPS later in the development process. That might not be the case for PC but surely not for console.
Unless you think Tomb Raider invented jungle set pieces and climbing walls, there is not much to see in this comparison (besides the fact that they both are the same genre of game).
Oh, good to know that I am not crazy yet.
That's not true at all. The initial gameplay reveal was certainly of a somewhat higher graphical quality, but the following gameplay videos all show pretty much the same visuals as we got in the final game, at least in the PC version I played. And it wasn't nearly as massive of a downgrade as some of you make it sound. A couple visual elements were pared back, but the finished game still looked really good.
lol I had no idea of his name I was just joking. I was going to call him Bob or Ralph
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
To everyone. You don't really know the meaning of Pre-alpha stage don't you? In pre-alpha stage you are just doing the basics of the game, trying stuff, puting ideas in the engine that may compeleletly by removed or changed. I will take the example of Unreal Tournament 4 (where I am taking part of): the game is now in pre-alpha stages: every map has NO TEXTURE yet, it is still using UT3 (so UE3) models , meshes and weapons. The final build will use UT4 weapons and models built from scratch suiting UE4. Here is my post in UE4 thread where I posted an UT4 weapon compared to UT1 weapon (you can compare this new UE4 UT4 weapon to UT3 weapon still used in the pre-alpha). You can also see in the video how the maps will look. Vehicles and other stuff aren't even developped yet: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136512436&postcount=835
Do you really think ND aren't aware of the lackluster hair and other problems? Still the game is very advanced even in the pre-alpa stage.
Do you really think ND aren't aware of the lackluster hair and other problems? Still the game is very advanced even in the pre-alpa stage.
Nobody said they are "going for 30 fps first".
This is pre alpha gameplay.
I don't get how people keep ignoring this fact.
Do you think they already optimized this to the max, to have it running at 30 fps?
Nah its all good. I'm glad we've finally got the horsepower to render what used to be pre-rendered cutscenes, in real-time.
I was going to find a non-shitty shot of Elise from a couple cutscenes, but figured what's the point. We're just splitting hairs on something subjective.
nelsonroyale
Member
Post processing effects I think were paired back as was the high quality DoF as far I can remember...it lost what I at least percieved as the foundations of its 'next gen' look. It looked somewhat cross gen to me, even on PC.
martino
Member
Playing tr could to see what they took in the openess and way to progress in thoses areas from it.
u3 did it a little but here it seems at another level(even beyond tr)
kerotan_eater
Banned
Hmm I'm not sure why some are comparing an open world game (AC) to a pretty darn linear game in Uncharted. It doesn't prove a lot. Making bigger worlds means spending less time on everything, naturally.
fabricated backlash
Member
Well obviously this is 100% indicative of the final game, like all early demos, hell some people on GAF have it on good authority (their ass) that the Zelda Gameplay shown yesterday was also indicative of how much there is to do in the overworld.
So it stands to reason that this showcase is similarly accurate of the technical specifications of UC4.
Personally I wasn't blown away by the demo, but not because it looks bad, but because it looks pretty much like I expected it to. And that means it looks amazing. Given how ND evolved their games on the PS3, I am pretty impressed by their first PS4 game.
Summer Haze
Banned
Well, I'm having a tough time deciding between these two shots. Elise gets bonus points for hair that obviously Steve Drake is not going to match, but when I was playing Unity I thought the other models were not up to her standard.
....Really? For me it's not even close, the UC4 shot looks vastly superior. That woman's face has no detail at all. Just looks like a smooth, blurry surface.
you're an insane man. TRE is not even in the same league. it not even on par with uncharted 3, aside from resolution.
No, you keep calling people out for making exaggerated comments, but then you make absurd comments of your own. TR
E on PS4 looks vastly better than Uncharted 3 on PS3. No contest.â Narayan
Member
Looks like his forehead alone has more detail than that AC character's entire head.
Only now I noticed that the artefact that Drake uses to help him climb leaves a mark/hole.
Nice details like this is one of the many reasons why I love ND games.
Yeah, I noticed that. The more impressive to me was when he jumped and used that thing to stop him from falling, it left a freaking tear in the rock.
Marvel
could never
Only now I noticed that the artefact that Drake uses to help him climb leaves a mark/hole.
Nice details like this is one of the many reasons why I love ND games.
Good catch. Nice touch indeed.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Only now I noticed that the artefact that Drake uses to help him climb leaves a mark/hole.
Nice details like this is one of the many reasons why I love ND games.
Not only that but the ring tied to it jiggles and shines and Drake changes the hand holding that dagger (or whatever) to adapt to his position.
It's always exciting seeing someone complain about realism in video games while nonchalantly referencing the Souls's series. You know the Souls's series, where the grounded verisimilitude is buttressed by the accurate rendition of how their are undead that can reclaim their humanity through the deaths of other undead creatures. Also the power of magic.
Maybe exciting is not the word, maybe disappointment with humanity or sumfink.
One half of Naughty Dog was still working on The Last of Us until mid 2013. The technology group was grappling with PS3 to the very end. ND received a second, much larger shipment of PS4 dev kits in September 2013 (picture below). The entire studio switched to PS4 development only at this point.
I'm convinced we will see a large number of small, incremental performance gains as time moves forward, but in the time available to them, Uncharted 4 looks superb for their fist PS4 title.
I'm convinced we will see a large number of small, incremental performance gains as time moves forward, but in the time available to them, Uncharted 4 looks superb for their fist PS4 title.
Summer Haze
Banned
No, you keep calling people out for making exaggerated comments, but then you make absurd comments of your own. TR
Having played both somewhat recently (in comparison to when UC3 first released), I disagree. UC3 impressed me much more on a graphical level.
There is SSS on the models I believe, at least during cutscenes. Hard to see thanks to the low res image.
Agreed that its a very important feature
Marvel
could never
Compare him with this guy, her skin is too smoothWell, I'm having a tough time deciding between these two shots. Elise gets bonus points for hair that obviously Steve Drake is not going to match, but when I was playing Unity I thought the other models were not up to her standard.
Sorry i've no other pictures of him and it's not even maxed out, maybe someone have better takes.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Well, I'm having a tough time deciding between these two shots. Elise gets bonus points for hair that obviously Steve Drake is not going to match, but when I was playing Unity I thought the other models were not up to her standard.
You're seriously having a hard time deciding which of those looks the best?
Compare him with this guy, her skin is too smooth
Sorry i've no other pictures of him and it's not even maxed out, maybe someone have better takes.
still way behind ND
Doesn't matter in the cutscene. And spending less time on everything? You should check the screenshots thread for Unity; ambition didn't seem to impede on attention to detail.
That's a compressed image from a compressed video clip. *sigh*
Not your fault for comparing, but it was like that one moron that showed a screencap to UC4 from the blurry twitch stream for the lolz.
Edit: ugh the unity comparisons are getting worse lol. Time to bounce.
Are we seriously comparing a 40+ y/o man with wrinkles all over his face to a young woman? You've never seen people with skin so smooth that they have no wrinkles? I have.
lol, I didn't really mean that ultra literally but hey it's gaf and now I'm being telt. Of course I think Billy Drake is better but it I'm not surprised people would consider Elise and some of the ACU better.
Summer Haze
Banned
Not sure if serious...
She doesn't look like a young woman, she looks like a young woman with Vasaline spread over her makeup.
nelsonroyale
Member
I am, because i can't see anything that looks better on the AC U models. It doesn't matter what setting. I still think they look great, but just as all things, something else has come along which in this aspect looks better. And it is hardly a surprise, last gen ND models always looked better than the models in AC.
Can we make a new thread for this? Amazing work.
Parhelion69
Member
As a big Uncharted fan, I'm sorry to say this. This doesn't look as spectacular as the Uncharted 2 gameplay reveal
It does look nice, hell, it's looks very nice. But it's not mind-blowing. Not even close. And I don't get it why ND can't do it, the reveal certainly was, but it now seems like that could've been pre-rendered (better IQ and visuals, and 60 fps)
Oh, but my biggest gripe is THE ANIMATION. It looks awful. Seriously. Hand keyed animation is something ND really likes, but it looks so cartoony, so out of place for this sort of visuals, that actually brings down the believability factor by a ton. ND, please use motion capture for gameplay animation, or at least try to do the animation TLOU style (it was also hand keyed but looked more realistic). Drake moving around looks like a cartoon, and it really ruins the immersion factor.
The Order 1886 DID look mindblowing on its latest demo. It's a MUCH, MUCH better looking game, which makes me wonder if ND are already beaten as tech wizards, which disappoints me a little.
Oh, and saying this looks like UC3, is just stupid. And it's totally nonsense, pure fanboyism, and these people should be punished for such statements.
It does look nice, hell, it's looks very nice. But it's not mind-blowing. Not even close. And I don't get it why ND can't do it, the reveal certainly was, but it now seems like that could've been pre-rendered (better IQ and visuals, and 60 fps)
Oh, but my biggest gripe is THE ANIMATION. It looks awful. Seriously. Hand keyed animation is something ND really likes, but it looks so cartoony, so out of place for this sort of visuals, that actually brings down the believability factor by a ton. ND, please use motion capture for gameplay animation, or at least try to do the animation TLOU style (it was also hand keyed but looked more realistic). Drake moving around looks like a cartoon, and it really ruins the immersion factor.
The Order 1886 DID look mindblowing on its latest demo. It's a MUCH, MUCH better looking game, which makes me wonder if ND are already beaten as tech wizards, which disappoints me a little.
Oh, and saying this looks like UC3, is just stupid. And it's totally nonsense, pure fanboyism, and these people should be punished for such statements.
robertsan21
Member
Compare him with this guy, her skin is too smooth
Sorry i've no other pictures of him and it's not even maxed out, maybe someone have better takes.
Yeah still not a contest, UC4 is way superior.
The gamersyde bittorrent video proofs that the game is awesome looking. This is also ND first PS4 game, just look how big the change was from UC1 to UC3! wow imagine the next title on PS4 from Naughty Gods.