nelsonroyale
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And add more geometry...The modelling is clearly more rounded/natural on the left as well.
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Uncharted 4 Gameplay Demo [Up: Sony - Was running at 30 fps]
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And add more geometry...The modelling is clearly more rounded/natural on the left as well.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Exactly
Drakes Bro looks absolutely realistic with all the showings of age and other natural things.
She looks like a doll - Unrealistic.
People shouldn't get forget this Alpha
This is Naughty Dog - Uncharted 3 looked a lot different/worse than the final product too.
Uncharted 4 will be the most beautiful game of all time the moment it gets released.
We will probably have the same cycle as last Gen where only Naughty Dog can raise the graphicsbar with each new game.
And people really should learn the difference between in-Engine(E3) and ingame and especially if its an alpha build.
Btw - For a Pre-Alpha build this game ran a lot more fluid than most Ubisoft Games
I repost this again: To everyone. You don't really know the meaning of Pre-alpha stage don't you? In pre-alpha stage you are just doing the basics of the game, trying stuff, puting ideas in the engine that may compeleletly by removed or changed. I will take the example of Unreal Tournament 4 (where I am taking part of): the game is now in pre-alpha stages: every map has NO TEXTURE yet, it is still using UT3 (so UE3) models , meshes and weapons. The final build will use UT4 weapons and models built from scratch suiting UE4. Here is my post in UE4 thread where I posted an UT4 weapon compared to UT1 weapon (you can compare this new UE4 UT4 weapon to UT3 weapon still used in the pre-alpha). You can also see in the video how the maps will look. Vehicles and other stuff aren't even developped yet: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=136512436&postcount=835
Do you really think ND aren't aware of the lackluster hair and other problems? Still the game is very advanced even in the pre-alpa stage.
Monocle
Member
I agree. It looks good but it didn't blow me away.
autoduelist
Member
Except 30fps can be about gameplay too. Dropping that extra 30fps might get you more enemies on screen, or better draw distance, or a more destructible environment (or all 3, or other things entirely).
It's not as simple as you make it seem to be. You assume all extra power is put into, what, textures? That's not how it works.
Summer Haze
Banned
They've still never come out and said that it will be 60fps, though. It's only ever been "aiming for". Saying "That's sort of the mandate from when we were building the PS4 engine" sounds to me like it was once an absolute must for them, somewhere in the dev process, but no longer is (based on the footage we've seen). Either way, it's never been officially confirmed/announced as a 60fps game.
Yeah the comments in this thread are ridiculous.
Cave Johnson
Member
It's an Uncharted game. Of course they will have those set-piece moments. I for one am glad they didn't take the UC2 route to showcase its game. Any developer who relies solely on set-piece moment to sell their game only speaks of their talent. 90% of your experience is what you have witnessed in this trailer and it is an unbelievable amount of fresh air for ND to showcase a game that didn't have everything blown up around him like a human Michael Bay prop
Pre-alpha. And are you basing this on a compressed twitch stream?
Huh? I thought the animation is incredible. Once they put this at 60fps, it would be an absolute stunner.
That's all TO1886 has going for it. Visuals. Also, it's unfair to compare since this game is only 2 months till release while ND is still a year behind in development. Tech-wise, it's unimpressive. Dumb NPC's straight from first-gen PS3 shooters with extremely clunky animations to boot. The only time the animations flourish is in those minimal interactive sequences.
Alpha means content complete, i.e. you can play it start to finish, but it's rough.
Beta means content locked, i.e. no real changes are possible, only bug squashing.
Pre-alpha just means you can't sit down and finish UC4 yet. This specific level might be 99% what it is when you finally play it, it's impossible to know. Certainly TLoU E3 stage demo was close to the final game visually and performance wise.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Maybe ND will do it like TLOU , 60fps version will have lower shadows etc etc to get it to 60fps.
That would definitely be worth it.
But I would prefer they just optimise their game for 60fps as standard.
No no no.
Look at the picture.
One is plastic-looking (but still good)
The other one is REAL-LOOKING.
There no way someone would prefer or even judge BETTER the AC Model.
not sure how can anyone compare these two at all. Looks like generational leap of difference at least. AC model looks very soft, like it has gone through some blur filter, textures are not even comparable.
I cant believe someone is using this to show how ACs model look better, makes no sense at all. If I did not know better, and you would show me UC4 model as PS4 model, i would think AC's is from PS3 game.
Marvel
could never
Not when GG are still in the game, no.
I think that's the complaint some have. There are plenty of people that bought the reveal as indicative of real-time gameplay at 60fps.
Never bought that for a minute, so the reveal wasn't nearly as disappointing for me (to be fair, I'm just not a fan of the series anyway, the visuals are fine).
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Thanks, and teh video confirms that this happens in gameplay not only in cinematics (while many current-gen games still lack that feature even in cutscenes).
It's clear that UC4 looks way more natural.
there are more differences
The difference in quality between both images is staggering. Its almost like you're looking at images of a cross gen game with the Nathan on the left being next gen and the Nathan on the right being last gen.
Nestunt
Member
if it is as fluid as that demo, it will be a constant thrill indeed
I am a bit worried, though, with conciliating it those "stealth" sections
orthodoxy1095
Banned
This is an absolutely ridiculously dopey comparison. The original image has different lighting, different details (dirt, cuts, waterm etc) and happens at a different point in the game.there are more differences
JuanLatino
Member
there are more differences
thats the shitty Youtube Version...
Here is a screenshots from the gamersyde Video i made.
Dictator93
Member
And all the other companies which put out great tech. You know... like Crytek... Epic...
It would be respectable if they had the ability to flip between two quality modes. But I have a hard time imagining what sacrafices could be made to make the game run at 60.
True, did not notice the ears.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
If those graphics are the result of underpowered consoles, then I'll take plenty more underpowered consoles in the future.
Looks like someone glued a Hedgehog pelt to his face.
thekiddfran
Member
thats the shitty Youtube Version...
Here is a screenshots from the gamersyde Video i made.
Wow that gamersyde is incredible.
Nobody was using that image as the prime example of how Elise's model is better, and if you look a few pages back there is another comparison with a shot of Elise that isn't compressed.
I must admit, the black guy was the one character in UNITY that really stood out for me, he looked incredible.
The other characters, not so much for me.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Every texture in Uncharted 4 is hand painted. I salute their extra work instead of just drag/dropping gametextures.com textures like many studios: http://goo.gl/ODa1Ox
Lol, and your statement is the perfect illustration that people don't see shit and light changes everything.
I don't find an example here but i'd love someone to post a photo of a real person, with a crappy light, and the same with a great light and contrast. That's what makes a photo look professional or not.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I would think that some us on gaf would know that cutscenes models will always look better than gameplay models .
So i also had my expectation in check the E3 trailer had you seeing a fly on drake face, you are not going to get that close during most of the gameplay lol
Also cutscenes going use best lighting and camera angles which always helps make game look better than gameplay .
Maninthemirror
Banned
thats the shitty Youtube Version...
Here is a screenshots from the gamersyde Video i made.
I do like the fact that Nathan looks younger than in the reveal demo but he looked more like Nathan in the reveal demo if you know what i mean.
I wasn't keen on them making Nathan look like he was in his 40's, it was like they wanted this to be the last Uncharted so they made him old or something.
SoraanTribal
Member
I actually feel the opposite. I didn't think his face looked a lot like Nate in the first reveal, but now he does in the latest gameplay. I don't know if they changed his face any or if it was just different lighting and stuff that made him look different originally.
Nah man, the textures look way lower res and the hair looks awful.
gundamkyoukai
Member
Of course when i say say 60 i mean 50 to 60fps cause that is what going to happen either way if they try .
Dictator93
Member
IMO, the odd level of hyping that is induced by posting stuff like this is really bizarre.
UC4 looks great, does it look that much better than other games? Not really. It isnt even the best look game on PS4 if you count the order (which by the very nature of its engine will have higher quality materials).
No need to shit on other devs calling them lazy because they do not hand paint all their textures (a wasterful practice btw and perhaps on a half truth).
thats the shitty Youtube Version...
Here is a screenshots from the gamersyde Video i made.
Holy smokes that is one good looking character.
Naughty Gods.
JuanLatino
Member
in the reveal trailer (e3 2014) Nathan was in a pretty bad condition...
Wounds & dirt on his face. His hair was wet and he was lying on the ground.
Maninthemirror
Banned
textures are the same, look at the closeup of drakes brother
Summer Haze
Banned
Lmfao.
PLASTICA-MAN
Member
Lol, did you even read one of my previous posts I kept reposting?
Unity faces blow Beyond out of the water. When you see Unity in motion you can tell it is a generation a head.
Most people are just judging art style, not the actual technology. A lot of you think UC4, Ellie, Beyond look better because of the art style. Because there is no way you can see Ellie, Beyond, and ACU faces in motion and think ACU doesn't better by a large margin.