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UHD 4KTV Future is here for $499.99 by CHANGHONG... WUT!?!

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Seanspeed

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People going LCD/LED for 4KTVs just because of the price are doing it wrong.

Wait for OLED.
Do not wait for OLED. A decent sized *1080p* OLED is still thousands of dollars. Affordable 4k version are far off and there's no actual guarantee they will ever exist.
 
I'm waiting until 50 inch OLED 4k TVs with HDMI 2.0 come out for around $1000. I will pounce when that happens, but until then I'll just wait.
 

Petrie

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I have a 50" Changhong brand set I got on Newegg for $399 last year as a tv for the basement game area. The speakers suck, but I'd never use them anyways, and outside of that it is a wonderful value for the price.

The only other complaint is that the power cord is permanently attached instead of the usual replaceable style.
 

HiResDes

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I have a 50" Changhong brand set I got on Newegg for $399 last year as a tv for the basement game area. The speakers suck, but I'd never use them anyways, and outside of that it is a wonderful value for the price.

The only other complaint is that the power cord is permanently attached instead of the usual replaceable style.

Yeah loving mine as well. My post from slickdeals

Had this TV for a while now and it's served me very well, though gaming on it is a bit shaky because of the poor response time. Anyway I thought I'd share the calibration settings I found on the internet that seem to help with the color realism:

Free to Air
Contrast - 67
Brightness - 52
Color - 43 (Some wiggle room here for your preference)
Sharpness - 23 (Feel free to drop it to zero if your a sharpness nazi)

Color temp - R 51, G 51, B 43

Xbox 360
Contrast - 67
Brightness -53
Color - 43
Sharpness - 27
(aspect as PC mode so you get the full scan

Colort temp R 51, G 50, B 45

Xbox was set to - (Expanded color levels, YCbCr709 (Important)) HDMI hookup by the way.

Blue Ray Player, LG (YCbCr color profile set on BlueRay [Important])
Contrast 67
Brightness - 52
Color 43
Sharpness 0

Color temp - Normal
 

Vashetti

Banned
$11999.99
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They just came out?

Regular LCD/LED 4KTVs were also thousands of dollars when they first came to market, and now it's super cheap to get one.

They will come down in price.

Anyone jumping in now just because of the pricetag is a fool.
 

Mononoke

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HDMI 2.0 def matters. Don't get a TV without it.

For the record, UHD is totally worth it, even if you don't have 4K content. The overall picture quality just looks sharper. It upscales 1080p content to UHD. Basically, it will just look like the clearest screen you have seen.

Playing PS4 games on it is amazing. I had my old Plasma hooked up side by side, and it was a big difference. I don't think getting a 4k TV makes sense, if you are just getting it to get it. If you need a new TV, then get one. But I wouldn't pay thousands of dollars for one yet. While the UHD looks great with all content, I don't think it's enough to justify the huge price jump (well, for many people I would say). But if you can find one for cheap that has HDMI 2.0 + go for it. That's what I meant when I said it was worth it.

But for most, it probably isn't worth it yet. I originally shyed away from one, because people kept telling me there was no point with the lack of 4k Content. But I again, think the UHD and the screen quality in general, totally does make a difference. So even 4k aside, it's great.
 

Goo

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I think it means you can plug a special Roku into it and control it all directly with the TV remote

A MHL Roku stick specifically. If you get one without MHL then it has to have external power like the Fire tv stick.
 
Heh, someone in my apartment complex has one. I spent a good five minutes staring at the box when I went to take the garbage out last week.
 

Fintan

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Nobody should buy a cheap/early gen 4K set unless they exclusively plan to use it for 4K content. And I mean 4k and nothing else.

Most people believe that just because a 4K TV can plan 4K content its 720p and 1080p performance will be nigh pixel perfect (I mean, it makes sense, right?), but the quality of their internal scalers is downright abysmal. TV programmes and Blu-ray movies look beyond bad in those sets.

Sure, the 4K demos at the store look fantastic, but you really, really don't want to see what a piss poor job they do -a very humble, very cheap Full HD TV outranks most of those sets in HD and Full HD quality, to the point of making side-by-side comparisons and embarrassment even for big brands like Samsung (which is including better scalers now, I believe). Cheap Chinese models are even worse.
How long do you think it will be until the scalers in the 4K will be at a point where they equal or surpass a decent full HD set?
 

Funky Papa

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How long do you think it will be until the scalers in the 4K will be at a point where they equal or surpass a decent full HD set?

There are already some TVs with decent scalers. It's not a problem with the tech, but companies cheapening wherever they can to extract a few more dimes.
 

robochimp

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What happened with the carbon nanotube TV's that were constantly being talked about as being right around the corner like 5 years ago?
 
We have a few changhongs at my office, but they're primarily used by IT to monitor servers and such so nothing major.

Don't think I'd get one myself.
 

Kieli

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There's $700 UHD TVs from LG.

Not that LG is a bastion of quality or anything. But they're more well known that Changhong.
 

harSon

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People going LCD/LED for 4KTVs just because of the price are doing it wrong.

Wait for OLED.

How long are you expecting people to wait? Entry level for OLED is like $3,500-$4,000 right now. It's going to be years before you can realistically tell someone who isn't moderately well off to jump in on an OLED with a straight face.
 
How long are you expecting people to wait? Entry level for OLED is like $3,500-$4,000 right now. It's going to be years before you can realistically tell someone who isn't moderately well off to jump in on an OLED with a straight face.

Yeah, I was looking at 4K OLED TVs with my tax refund coming soon and the cheapest one in my size range is $10,000 -_-

I haven't even heard if any progress has been made with OLEDs in terms of burn-in and blue OLED lifespan.
 

Vashetti

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How long are you expecting people to wait? Entry level for OLED is like $3,500-$4,000 right now. It's going to be years before you can realistically tell someone who isn't moderately well off to jump in on an OLED with a straight face.

Well there isn't exactly a plethora of 4K content out there. Waiting is not an issue.
 

Hydrus

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I bought the 49 inch Changhong LED during black Friday for 275. Ive had it for about a month and so far Its a fantastic TV. I'm even thinking about buying a second one, when the price drops again.
 

RS4-

Member
If I was in the market for a TV right now, I'd probably get the best thing sub 1k as I know that I'll be buying a new set in another year or two when 4k content is available.

And OLED
 

bachikarn

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Nobody should buy a cheap/early gen 4K set unless they exclusively plan to use it for 4K content. And I mean 4k and nothing else.

Most people believe that just because a 4K TV can plan 4K content its 720p and 1080p performance will be nigh pixel perfect (I mean, it makes sense, right?), but the quality of their internal scalers is downright abysmal. TV programmes and Blu-ray movies look beyond bad in those sets.

Sure, the 4K demos at the store look fantastic, but you really, really don't want to see what a piss poor job they do -a very humble, very cheap Full HD TV outranks most of those sets in HD and Full HD quality, to the point of making side-by-side comparisons an embarrassment even for big brands like Samsung (which is including better scalers now, I believe). Cheap Chinese models are even worse.

Don't think it matters. 4k is 2x 1080p and 3x 720p. Scaling should be simole, no?

It shouldn't look worse than 720p or 1080p TV of the same size. In fact, wouldn't it look better than a 1080p TV for 720p content? Unless maybe it had some fancy interpolation algorithm to try and make the 720p content better?
 

mackattk

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Don't think it matters. 4k is 2x 1080p and 3x 720p. Scaling should be simole, no?

It shouldn't look worse than 720p or 1080p TV of the same size. In fact, wouldn't it look better than a 1080p TV for 720p content? Unless maybe it had some fancy interpolation algorithm to try and make the 720p content better?

It is actually 4x 1080p and 9x 720p.

720p (1280x720): 921,600 pixels
1080p (1920x1080): 2,073,600 pixels
4k (3840x2160): 8,294,400 pixels
 

bachikarn

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It is actually 4x 1080p and 9x 720p.

720p (1280x720): 921,600 pixels
1080p (1920x1080): 2,073,600 pixels
4k (3840x2160): 8,294,400 pixels

Yeah meant ratios of length and width instead of area .

But the point that the scaling is an integer instead of a fraction . so upscaling should be a lot easier than 720p to 1080p as that scaling was a fraction.
 

harSon

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Well there isn't exactly a plethora of 4K content out there. Waiting is not an issue.

I guarantee 4K content comes into its own before OLED is the least bit affordable. This is probably the year 4K becomes viable - especially considering Netflix and Amazon Originals are basically 4K moving forward since late last year.
 

x3sphere

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How long are you expecting people to wait? Entry level for OLED is like $3,500-$4,000 right now. It's going to be years before you can realistically tell someone who isn't moderately well off to jump in on an OLED with a straight face.

When LG wants to sell more OLEDs, prices will sharply drop.

The 1080p model went from $10,000 to $3500 in a year. Who knows what will happen this year.

They are coming out with 8 OLED models in total this year, production capacity is ramping up by 4x. It is almost a given that prices will come down significantly unless LG wants to be sitting with a bunch of excess stock.
 
I guarantee 4K content comes into its own before OLED is the least bit affordable. This is probably the year 4K becomes viable - especially considering Netflix and Amazon Originals are basically 4K moving forward since late last year.

Biggest problem in the equation here is ISP/CSP's the infastructure to make this large of a bandwidth jump is woefully inadequate, and with a significant portion of the market consuming content this way it's hard to say when we will ever see a decent amount of 4k content outside gaming. There's been a number of states in the US that have blocked attempts to allow municipalities to create and host their own high bandwidth fibre/Internet as a utility. Google, century link and a few other small fibre ISP's are working on it, but it will probably take more than a decade at the current rate. Current ISP's have little or no incentive to pay into infastructure until competition is on their doorstep.

Well and the fact that only a fraction of a percent of people own UHD sets.
 
Just ordered the 49"

I'm going to do the 1440p at 60z resolution explain here

http://www.overclock.net/t/1442986/...1440p-at-60hz-playing-with-other-custom-stuff

Yuck.

You can do 4K/60 with 4:2:0 chroma subsampling over HDMI 1.4 if you have an Nvidia card Kepler or Maxwell card (Geforce 600, 700, 800, 900 series), that's what I do on my TV. Native res or bust!

looks like you're just jealous cause you can't afford a super-awesome wony 4k tv.

I prefer Ramdung personally
 

Shpeshal Nick

aka Collingwood
Hisense in Australia has a 50" (I think) 4K TV that you can get for only $750AU from JB Hifi. Couldn't believe my eyes.
 
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