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The Order 1886 Review Thread
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This is hilarious
GlamFM
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Multiplats are also a great reason to get a PS4.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Twisted Metal was absolutely fantastic. I was the opposite of burned. Better than any PS4 exclusive Sony have made so far. Hell it's up there with the best Sony made Vita exclusives. It's just a shame the online didn't work as well as it should have.
A thread about what people predicted February's biggest flop would be devolved into arguing over whether The Order would be a critical and financial success. Lots of people seemed pretty convinced it would do well critically.
Are we really using MC score as the sole justification for the quality of a game?
I even more can't wait to get this game tomorrow just to see what the truth is. I don't trust these professional reviewers further than I can throw them. If I trusted them I wouldn't have played Zombi U, which is a great game, and I'd not have played Alien Isolation which was my GOTY, and I'd also think Sunset Overdrive is worth my time. I'd think Halo 3 is awesome.
These people simply don't represent me. I could not care less if a game is doing something "new" gameplay wise. That's not even on my map.
These people simply don't represent me. I could not care less if a game is doing something "new" gameplay wise. That's not even on my map.
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The videogamer videoreview is great, do these guys always make their own game specific review song for their videos?
n00bsauce87
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After reading the OP, it seems as though if this game was $39.99, it would improve a lot of scores.
I have a distinct feeling that it won't be very long.
Gamestop will have a bajillion copies within a month or so.
SmokedMeat
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It would be a smart move for RAD to add some free DLC co-op to the game.
1.21Gigawatts
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I don't think the developers are surprised by the reviews.
Since they first let the press play the game they knew that people aren't particulary enjoying the gameplay they're offering. Since the encounters are all pretty much standard cover based shooting they knew this based on the reaction on one encounter.
Its also no secret that QTEs and taking control away from the player aren't things players appreachiate. Same is true for simple walking around and inspecting stuff. Nobody really enjoys that.
They also knew how long their game would be and that many people would expect more from a 60$ single player only game.
Those are all thing they must have known at least 1.5 years ago.
I also think they knew that their story isn't good enough to make up for all the other shortcommings the game has.
Since they first let the press play the game they knew that people aren't particulary enjoying the gameplay they're offering. Since the encounters are all pretty much standard cover based shooting they knew this based on the reaction on one encounter.
Its also no secret that QTEs and taking control away from the player aren't things players appreachiate. Same is true for simple walking around and inspecting stuff. Nobody really enjoys that.
They also knew how long their game would be and that many people would expect more from a 60$ single player only game.
Those are all thing they must have known at least 1.5 years ago.
I also think they knew that their story isn't good enough to make up for all the other shortcommings the game has.
Another review thread and still skipping Dualshockers 8.5
ShockingAlberto
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I don't know what point you took from my post, but the intention was to illustrate how ridiculous the idea of "It's not a game the media would like by intention!" was when there are clear counter-examples.
Comparing The Order to four solid, fun campaign experiences (that have co-op, mutators, arcade scoring) with admittedly borked MP? If you're gonna grasp at straws, you might want to go after better ones.
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This is a terrible post. God of War is one of the absolute best action titles ever made. Not because of the graphics. Because of how it actually plays. You've brought great shame to your family.
It's a banned site. And it's also been mentioned about 10 times.
So dumb.
Duxxy3
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https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/423998958591946752
This is where I'm getting it from. Not sure if that's just NPD sales or not. Since it doesn't specify, my guess would be worldwide.
Omg that was hilarious. Watched it twice to try to understand the actual story (they're speaking Spanish) but I couldn't stop laughing lol.
It's only the best-reviewed hack-and-slash franchise out there due to graphics...
I think there was some very serious online problems with the game around release that never truly got fixed and killed the community.
-MD-
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Right but I think his post was in response to this
TLOU didn't check most of those boxes and it was the game of the year.
The fact that people argue that the videogame press is biased against linear cinematic experiences is hilarious to me. It's the template that is by far the most likely to get critical praise and has been for a while.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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Man I'm even more excited to play this tomorrow.
ShockingAlberto
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ShooterMcGavin
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Yeah, I agree. Most of my favorite series are multiplat (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, MGS, etc.) and I chose the PS4 because of the better hardware.
Also, it doesn't hurt that Naughty Dog is exclusive lol.
DoubleTake
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Tbh if they took from TLOU wholesale with its open stage format i feel the game would have been much better off for it. But then it begs the question if that style of gameplay would fit the narrative of 4 knights running around trying to keep the order.
What im getting from reviews and others is that the game is basically gears in its structure and comabt flow. Plus an inordinate amount of cutscenes.
lol dead wrong
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Wut?
Max Payne 3 and The Order wouldn't even come close to being the same thing in my mind.
Heck, I'd say Gears of War maybe, but you can't move forward or backward while in active cover in The Order.
That's because the site is banned on gaf.
Not the majority, but some people did at the very least. Knack was made fun of from the day it got announced.
GAF > Internet > GAF already? Haha
3 and Ascension are garbage.
semiconscious
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good comparison. &, yeah, i think these guys are capable of learning from their mistakes, & hope they get the chance to do so. because they certainly seem to've mastered the technical aspects...
User 479360
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The Order is a game where you play for a bit, sit back and watch lengthy drawn out cutscenes for a while, play for a little bit again then repeat. It feels as if the developers were torn between making it a movie or a game.
I'm sure they weren't, really, but it's hard not to feel that way.
I'm sure they weren't, really, but it's hard not to feel that way.
D1renegade
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Heh, these don't exist
Why not? Ready at Dawn will probably be making it.
Laughed at this harder than I should've
On topic: I can't help but imagine what the reception would've been had this game been more appropriately priced. In my opinion this game should have been no more $20.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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There's more to Sony exclusives than those games. If they didn't like those, what convinced them The Order was going to be like Halo?
Not really; it's at 65 on Metacritic right now and will probably go lower once all's said and done.
Alebrije
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Bloodborne is coming.
Anyway when I see games like the order I just wonder why Sony didn't use all that time and resources to release a game like The Last Guardian that will have more impact in the community.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Oh definitely and it's a real shame. But when it worked it was ridiculously fun and the core gameplay is far and away the best in the series. I hope Sony give the franchise another go at some point but make sure the online actually works properly at launch this time.
But arguably Asura's Wrath isn't fun. I didn't think so, but I'm glad there are people who liked it. Just like there will be people championing this game despite flaws.
His point is, if I'm interpreting correctly, that reviewers are fickle and will forgive a lot based on the perceived "artistry" a game has. A unique Japanese experience= something new and different, despite limited control, fairly brief length, and a DLC ending. And it retailed at full price.
A Western AAA exclusive = lol it's a movie not a game zero innovation it's just pretty and nothing else fail 1 star.
He's not wrong on that point, but comparing the games isn't the focus- it's how reviewers respond that is.
You do realize there's more than Ubi "Open World" and linear cinematic? Games don't have to just be one or the other. I do agree that reviews seem to favor the open world design over some different single-player focused genres, but to argue that The Order was criticized negatively because of this is a silly argument. I want great single-player games as much as the next person, but surely we can do better than The Order. And surely devs can realize that to be a great single-player linear experience does not necessarily mean one has to be "cinematic". See Bayonetta 2, Wolfenstein TNO, or Alien Isolation for great examples of non-open world single-player, linear games that are excellent. These are the kind of games I want when I say I want "focused singleplayer experiences". I don't think consumers should have to settle for The Order 1866.
It's NPD data from Dec 2013
Welfare
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Doesn't mean much. Halo 3, Reach, and 4 all sold around 3 million units in their launch months, and that's with the 360 having a bigger install base with each release.
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