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Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - The story behind the biggest game of the year

GnawtyDog

Banned
We don't know exactly. Ubi just said Unity + Rogue did 10 million.

Woah... well that's like what 4 mill per next-gen console? The Xbox One numbers are inflated by bundles but so will Uncharted 4 after 3 months or so, -- so that doesn't matter. But yeah I did forget about AC: Victory.
 
Sounds fantastic. I love how they seem to be taken those freeform gameplay systems to the next level. Can't wait to play in those combat sandboxes, the PSX demo was superb.
 
Bruce Straley has directed two games, one sits at 96 and the other sits on 95 on Metacritic. Both decimated every other game in terms of GotY wins the year of their release.

It's also worth noting that both sold extremely well.

if you have a title that sells ~8M and wins 200+ game of the year awards, then yes, it's safe to say there's a lot of anticipation about what's coming next.

Uncharted is one of the biggest new franchises in gaming. TLOU probably isn't far behind depending on the sequel.
 

leobebes

Banned
Please point out where I said anything about why Edge calls it the biggest game.

Going by the GAF anticipation thread it has the biggest anticipation this year.

Honestly, I'm confused. I just was going off what you said above. I agree that Uncharted 4 is one of the most anticipated games of the year. But calling it the biggest game of the year, well, that's a rather bold statement deserving of a little inquiry. That's all.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
Honestly, I'm confused. I just was going off what you said above. I agree that Uncharted 4 is one of the most anticipated games of the year. But calling it the biggest game of the year, well, that's a rather bold statement deserving of a little inquiry. That's all.

COD is the biggest game of the year every year except when GTA hits (sales wise). I think the gaming community has moved on from calling COD the "biggest game of the year" - every year.
 

Frillen

Member
No, meaning, the game falls below Top 5 into Top 10 territory 6-10. That was my read anyway. I could be wrong if he meant otherwise, but if he did, why include Top 10 with quotation marks, instead of just Top 5.

Nah, I meant what ashecitism was saying, hence I fixed your post :p

But I understood you know :)
 

dofry

That's "Dr." dofry to you.
I don't know, I'm just saying biggest have more than one meaning.

Going by the GAF anticipation thread it has the biggest anticipation this year.

Biggest critical hit?
Biggest space needed on your HDD? :p

There is a Finnish gaming magazine that boasts being the "biggest" one in Finland. I assume it's the physical size of the magazine itself as it surely ain't the distribution size.
 
Oh wow. Finally, all these years after Shadow of the Colossus someone has decided to kind of follow its lead and incorporate something other than the most basic kind of gameplay into climbing mechanics. About time.
 

bombshell

Member
Honestly, I'm confused. I just was going off what you said above. I agree that Uncharted 4 is one of the most anticipated games of the year. But calling it the biggest game of the year, well, that's a rather bold statement deserving of a little inquiry. That's all.

My point in all my posts in this thread has been that biggest is a subjective term. I can say that U4 is the biggest game of the year for me, but it might not be for you.
 

UVG RAVEN

Banned
"Biggest" by what metric? There's still Treyarch's new Call of Duty, Halo 5, Metal Gear Solid 5, Zelda, the Witcher, etc.

The hype for this game is becoming ridiculous; from what they've shown I'm far from impressed.
 

Game4life

Banned
Very true, but even on it's own merits I don't feel it'll top things like Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, No Man's Sky MGSV, Zelda, Xenoblade or Persona 5.

It's still going to hopefully be awesome though.

Sales wise or critcally? UC will outsell all those games with the only possible exception being MGS5 ( Possibly ). It is being directed by a guy who has won more GOTY awards last gen then all the other developers mentioned by you combined. I will be extremely surprised if anyone even remembers Witcher 3 by the end of the year unless its combat is actually decent this time.

Bruce Straley has directed two games, one sits at 96 and the other sits on 95 on Metacritic. Both decimated every other game in terms of GotY wins the year of their release.

Pretty much.
 

Betty

Banned
We clear :)



After playing Ground Zeros, I would be setting my eyes on Halo or the Witcher as contenders against Uncharted.

Even if Halo works and it does everything right it wouldn't be in contention, and as good as Witcher 3 will be the 1:1 gameplay doesn't hold a candle to MGSV. It could be better overall, but as far as direct control of your character goes, MGSV would seem to beat it.
 

Percy

Banned
Wasn't sure if this was just the Edge article again, but seeing the exact same resentment at the (reasonable) suggestion of UC4 being the "biggest" game of the year that we had in the thread on the Edge version in this thread as well has helped clarify things for me.
 

Blackthorn

"hello?" "this is vagina"
I hope they don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There may be many parts of Uncharted 2/3 that can be accused of "holding forward on the stick" but there were also thrilling, dynamic set pieces like the train that still have yet to be matched.

Also I can't believe the only part of this article that got attention when it was first published was the fucking framerate question.

Edit: And now the conversation's griping over whether it's the biggest game of the year. Get it together, Gaf.
 
I hope they don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There may be many parts of Uncharted 2/3 that can be accused of "holding forward on the stick" but there were also thrilling, dynamic set pieces like the train that still have yet to be matched.

They aren't abandoning setpieces. It just seems like they're going to do them differently. What they did with U2 was basically a gamechanging in terms of how setpieces were handled in games. So i'm looking forward to what their new ideas for them are since TLoU really didn't allow them to experiment in that area.
 

Blackthorn

"hello?" "this is vagina"
They aren't abandoning setpieces. It just seems like they're going to do them differently. What they did with U2 was basically a gamechanging in terms of how setpieces were handled in games. So i'm looking forward to what their new ideas for them are since TLoU really didn't allow them to experiment in that area.
Yeah my assumption is they're focusing on the minutiae of the gameplay at the moment because that's typically been where they're criticised most. A set piece reveal would equally have been accused of being "more Uncharted."
 
We clear :)



After playing Ground Zeros, I would be setting my eyes on Halo or the Witcher as contenders against Uncharted.
lol... I don't know man.
We're talking about 343 here...

But hey, don't take the "biggest game of the year" quote too seriously.
It's not the point of the article.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
I hope they don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. There may be many parts of Uncharted 2/3 that can be accused of "holding forward on the stick" but there were also thrilling, dynamic set pieces like the train that still have yet to be matched.

Also I can't believe the only part of this article that got attention when it was first published was the fucking framerate question.

Edit: And now the conversation's griping over whether it's the biggest game of the year. Get it together, Gaf.

Well, it's a heated year no doubt :) Lots of contenders, lots of fans.
Uncharted 4’s combat isn’t just about shooting, but a blend of stealth, traversal, melee and gunplay set in a vast, vertical space full of opportunities. Suddenly, a series once famed for its linearity feels uncommonly like a sandbox. "

Just like I remember it EDGE....not sure which games you were playing. Obviously stealth is being implemented TLOU style, same as melee, and everything else is being ramped up, but the essence has always being there. Vast was definitely not there, but there were sandboxes, albeit limited.
 
Yeah my assumption is they're focusing on the minutiae of the gameplay at the moment because that's typically been where they're criticised most. A set piece reveal would equally have been accused of being "more Uncharted."

Yeah, i'm sure everyone was expecting some big setpiece in the PSX demo, and it never happened. Instead they were able to show that Uncharted is more than that. They also showed that people are excited about the core mechanics since that's all that was really shown in that demo. To be honest, I wouldn't be against them holding all setpieces back for the final release of the game. But i'm pretty sure that we'll see at least one before then. Most likely to kickoff Sony's E3 conference.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
lol... I don't know man.
We're talking about 343 here...

But hey, don't take the "biggest game of the year" quote too seriously.
It's not the point of the article.

343i is not as incompetent as it's made to be although the studio as well as MS deserve the heat they get for Halo:MCC.

As much a buzz that's made about "Halo" MP, it's always being about the lore and story for me - and Halo 1-3 are very good at that.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
Yeah, i'm sure everyone was expecting some big setpiece in the PSX demo, and it never happened. Instead they were able to show that Uncharted is more than that. They also showed that people are excited about the core mechanics since that's all that was really shown in that demo. To be honest, I wouldn't be against them holding all setpieces back for the final release of the game. But i'm pretty sure that we'll see at least one before them. Most likely to kickoff Sony's E3 conference.

We better see more than one. Why the hell did I buy a PS4 for? :)
 

Betty

Banned
Sales wise or critcally? UC will outsell all those games with the only possible exception being MGS5 ( Possibly ). It is being directed by a guy who has won more GOTY awards last gen then all the other developers mentioned by you combined. I will be extremely surprised if anyone even remembers Witcher 3 by the end of the year unless its combat is actually decent this time..

Critically speaking, I'm sure U4 will be awesome, I just don't think it's doing enough to beat out some of the competition.

Time will tell though.
 
So there may not be much Elena....no bueno at all.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I like Elena

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Lingitiz

Member
Sales wise or critcally? UC will outsell all those games with the only possible exception being MGS5 ( Possibly ). It is being directed by a guy who has won more GOTY awards last gen then all the other developers mentioned by you combined. I will be extremely surprised if anyone even remembers Witcher 3 by the end of the year unless its combat is actually decent this time.



Pretty much.

Ugh. So wrong.
 

samar11

Member
I think a PS4 exclusive is not very likely to be the best-selling game of the year, purely because other major franchises like CoD and Assassin's Creed are multiplat and will most likely sell more copies in total.

Most critically acclaimed?
Hmmm, maybe?

If we're purely talking highest Metacritic/Gamerankings average, I expect Zelda Wii U and Xenoblade X to do very well too, possibly even better.

lol
 
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I like Elena

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They simply aren't talking about Elena right now other than saying that she and Drake are married and she isn't happy about him going back to treasure hunting. It seems like every magazine starts speculating that she won't have much a role because ND isn't ready to talk about her right now.
 

hesido

Member
I'm not a native speaker of English, but I'm a third way through the article and would like to point out that I really liked the use of language, very fluid and nicely chosen words.
 

GnawtyDog

Banned
Wii U games have consistently outperformed PS4/XBO titles in reviews so...

Uncharted and Halo are not just any other PS4/Xbox One game. You can't base yourself on that.

They simply aren't talking about Elena right now other than saying that she and Drake are married and she isn't happy about him going back to treasure hunting. It seems like every magazine starts speculating that she won't have much a role because ND isn't ready to talk about her right now.

We'll hear more about Nadine that's for sure.
 

Ascenion

Member
Even if Halo works and it does everything right it wouldn't be in contention, and as good as Witcher 3 will be the 1:1 gameplay doesn't hold a candle to MGSV. It could be better overall, but as far as direct control of your character goes, MGSV would seem to beat it.

I take issue with this. Exactly why would it not be in contention? Halo is still capable of GOTY runs imo, just need to find the sweet spot and Halo 5 could be it. We virtually know nothing really about how the campaign looks or anything, plus the beta was generally well received. I don't find it fair to simply count it out already. Let's at least see more of the game first.
 

Lingitiz

Member
Even if Halo works and it does everything right it wouldn't be in contention, and as good as Witcher 3 will be the 1:1 gameplay doesn't hold a candle to MGSV. It could be better overall, but as far as direct control of your character goes, MGSV would seem to beat it.
Of course it won't be. Witcher 3 is an rpg. The game will be as good as the reactivity of the story, writing, characters, quest design, etc. Witcher 2 was very good in this regard with choices dramatically changing the game and the boldness to withhold serious amounts of info from the player if you decided to go one direction to or not. We really should not try to compare these games directly at all.
 

everybodyman

Neo Member
Uncharted and Halo are not just any other PS4/Xbox One game. You can't base yourself on that.



We'll hear more about Nadine that's for sure.
Twilight Princess has a Metacritc score of 96, which is the same as Uncharted 2. Of course, there is a chance that the new Zelda might disappoint.

Edit: Woops, TP actually has a Metacritic of 95 for the Wii version.
 

Betty

Banned
Uncharted and Halo are not just any other PS4/Xbox One game. You can't base yourself on that.

Point still stands, Wii U has had far more critical darlings, scoffing at the idea Xenoblade or Zelda could outperform other heavy hitters in quality would be vastly underestimating their pedigree.

I take issue with this. Exactly why would it not be in contention? Halo is still capable of GOTY runs imo, just need to find the sweet spot and Halo 5 could be it. We virtually know nothing really about how the campaign looks or anything, plus the beta was generally well received. I don't find it fair to simply count it out already. Let's at least see more of the game first.

I just have zero faith in 343, if Halo 4 is any indication I can't see them coming out golden. It could totally happen of course, I simply don't feel it will
 

Percy

Banned
343i is not as incompetent as it's made to be although the studio as well as MS deserve the heat they get for Halo:MCC.

As much a buzz that's made about "Halo" MP, it's always being about the lore and story for me - and Halo 1-3 are very good at that.

On the same note though, Halo 4 sucked on that score (As well as most others) and that is so far the sole game 343 has actually produced so far. I think you're maybe giving them a bit too much credit when there's a fair argument to be made that have really yet to prove themselves capable of making a decent game.

It has definitely become the point of the thread :p

You and Gries be sure to give yourselves a pat on the back.
 
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