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Sega to cut 300 jobs (heavily arcade/pub staff), refocusing on digital/mobile/PC [Up]
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Atlus is still a fully owned subsidiary of Sega Games.
What if those mobile games are good? They've made some very popular, highly successful mobile games already.
dancrane212
Member
What do they even mean by Online PC games? I would have figured PSO2 avoidance of this region had to due with lack of confidence of the game's success. If SEGA is doubling down on Online PC games why not localize PSO2?
ArchedThunder
Banned
And they still function separately. As long as they are making money Sega won't touch them.
So much this. The war is over.Sega needs to sell Sonic to Nintendo immediately.
Browser games have potential, but the first and most obvious examples are Total War and Football Manager, games which are quite profitable for Sega and which sell exclusively through digital means in most (all?) of the world.
Yeah, you're right.
Storm Kyleis
Member
Yeah i thought this was a new development from the earlier story. The site just decided to put up a "new" artical and add some drama to it.
Nintenyearold
Neo Member
I wonder if this affects the chance the yakuza games after 5 will come to the west? If they're less focused on console releases they'll probably be even more conservative on risking that..
I'm going to say don't count on this ever happening, but weirder things have happened previously.
Still a major blow though, as there will definitely be changes felt at the end of the day. It certain feels like their death, even though it isn't.
I don't think that would be a good decision. Sega probably would have made games based on those properties if they were successful. At most I could see other companies buying underused IPs or maybe partnering with Sega in development (imagine an EAD Sonic), but not much more.
dancrane212
Member
OK, so not just browser games, that's good to hear. Thanks!
Do you like browser and F2P games?
And happens next after this impossible scenario?
Will their successful PC IPs, Yazuka, their fighting games, and mobile games stop being made?
Are people constantly begging Nintendo to buy Sega using the same narrow mindset as the "Nintendo buy Capcom" crowd a few months ago? Do they want Megaman/Sonic exclusive to Nintendo so much that they think Sega/Capcom's successful IPs on other platforms should disappear? Even if this happened, why would Nintendo have a desire to make games for IPs that can barely (or not even) sell 1 million these days? They're sitting on IPs that can sell more than that.
No. That would be probably the worst thing that could happen outside of going completely mobile.
Naturally I wouldn't go after those games.
But that's SEGA's call though. If that's what's the best thing to do in this market then there's nothing I can do.
Welfare
Member
Nintendo sells Atlus to Microsoft.
Arcade gaming is the best kind of gaming though, so this is bad news. Would be better to just close Atlus IMO.
You wished, it coming exclusively to ios and android. LOL
ThatStupidLion
Member
so no hope for Phantasy Star Nova coming west right?
Reasons this is not going to happen but say if we even exclude Sammy from the equation for a minute;
- SEGA's mobile and PC division is actually successful
- What is Nintendo going to do with the extra fat from SEGA, their animation studios, toy division, arcade centres and so on?
- What does Nintendo do with the various PC studios SEGA owns?
- Why would Nintendo spend upwards of $2 billion to buy a "minor" 2 - 3 million+ series in Sonic which is the star draw?
The likelihood of this deal is as much as Nintendo being bought up by Microsoft.
The changes have been felt for the last two years, there's not much else that's going to change since everything SEGA's been releasing recently has been very "safe" with the exception of minor new IPs and Phantasy Star Nova on the Vita.
dancrane212
Member
Only way we will see that game over here is if Sony picks it up. Can't see anyone else touching the game.
Football Manager in Europe is huge even in physical form.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Nintendo killed Sonic
I don't understand why anyone likes that game. You can't even play soccer! All you do is manage the teams! Besides, soccer is boring, not like the NFL. 2/10.
Ghost_Messiah
Member
Thanks for the heart attack OP. And thanks to the mods for merging this rapidly in to the existing thread to ease the shock and confusion. Yeah this is just a super late overly dramatic article echoing last month's news without any new evolution to the story. We knew all of this a month ago. Sega are scaling back console releases and refocusing on PC and mobile.
Also for those worried about Sonic Sega already stated that they're going to be reinforcing Sonic moving forward so Sonic on consoles is still safe.
Also for those worried about Sonic Sega already stated that they're going to be reinforcing Sonic moving forward so Sonic on consoles is still safe.
That's a bannable offense, right here.
Football Manager was so addicting when I used to play it. Once you win something it feels like your chest is about to explode with joy. On the other hand, my monitors have taken so many beatings over the years.
Guess I never thought of all the extra burden that would come from that decision. Maybe at the least other companies will buy the IP's that Sega has control of?
They handled the master system quite while. Selling it to Tonka, buying it back, only for everything about the system to crash since Tonka had no idea how to market a video game console properly (going from toy trucks to video games is quite something).
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Or, they can avoid that nuclear option and hand over ATLUS to Sony instead :3
Schobeleth
Member
Good to see that other thread moved to this one.
I just don't understand the spin from other sites (rocket news specifically) where they say the company is "seemingly" abandoning the hardware market. So what if they're focusing on mobile/pc? What if that works for them, and they do less (but hopefully better) console releases?
I want to be clear though - this isn't good either way, but they're at least trying to survive. As others are saying - Atlus is seemingly unaffected.
I just don't understand the spin from other sites (rocket news specifically) where they say the company is "seemingly" abandoning the hardware market. So what if they're focusing on mobile/pc? What if that works for them, and they do less (but hopefully better) console releases?
I want to be clear though - this isn't good either way, but they're at least trying to survive. As others are saying - Atlus is seemingly unaffected.
Ghost_Messiah
Member
Atlus will be fine. Between the time the Sega news broke and now Atlus unveiled Persona 5 for consoles. Sega isn't abandoning console releases completely. They're just scaling back their console operations to franchises that are sure-fire hits. Persona is safe. Yakuza is safe. Sonic is safe as Sega even indicated in their initial statement when the news hit. We're just not getting a new Jet Set Radio, Streets of Rage or anything that would be considered a financial risk. Same goes for expensive and original new IPs like Binary Domain.
If this drastic action keeps Sega alive then so be it. And I say that as a hardcore Sega fan.
If this drastic action keeps Sega alive then so be it. And I say that as a hardcore Sega fan.
Pretty sure Sonic Team killed Sonic.
Or are we blaming everything on Nintendo these days?
Forgot to bring those up in my prior post about games that may not make sense to bring to consoles, despite the fact that honestly Total War IS what I think of first when I think of Sega's PC support. Probably because the real worry to me is what's going on with Japanese development, as everything outside of that seems to be mainly cutting off fat, and the biggest casualties we care about are usually developers that can go elsewhere (Alpha Protocol landing with a thud and Sega unlikely to publish more Oblivion RPGs? Whatever we still got Pillars of Eternity.)
Why would SEGA sell IPs that still makes them money though? And there's no need to sell the IPs they don't use anymore either unless they're strapped for cash (They still have over $1 billion in cash reserves.) since it's something companies' don't do unless a ridiculous offer comes in.
It should be noted the game division has been in the black ever since the restructuring, so they'll stick with the plan that's reaping them profits in their consumer division.
I would sacrifice 100 Atluses and Creative Assemblys to save Sega's arcade division.
Teknopathetic
Member
^ Agreed. They're cool, but not Virtua Fighter cool.
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