• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Steven Universe |OT| Truly, Truly, Truly Outrageous

Status
Not open for further replies.

KiN0

Member
Peridot was just sending the droids to repair the warp pad (And later, to turn on the kindergarten).

I get the feeling Lapis Lazuli isn't really involved with the homeworld gems' plans beyond wanting to get home.

I originally thought Lapis had informed the home world gems of the crystal gem's survival. That would be the reason Peridot was sent to reactivate kindergarten. Otherwise, I can't think of a reason they home world gems would wait 6000 years to reinvestigate the earth. Of course there's also the chance Peridot isn't involved with home world and is working for another group.
 

Toxi

Banned
I love how Steven just assumes Peridot is someone he can have a friendly chat with. Poor guy really has no idea just how dangerous the world can be.
I originally thought Lapis had informed the home world gems of the crystal gem's survival. That would be the reason Peridot was sent to reactivate kindergarten. Otherwise, I can't think of a reason they home world gems would wait 6000 years to reinvestigate the earth. Of course there's also the chance Peridot isn't involved with home world and is working for another group.
Peridot's recent activity with Earth might be because the crystal gems destroyed her Red Eye probe and she wanted to check out what was going on.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Peridot's dialog also suggested that she/her superiors believed Gems were long extinct on Earth. So they knew it'd been a long time since contact was made.

Pearl suggested there were many Gem controlled words, not just their homeworld. Perhaps the Gem civilization covers the galaxy and they only recently decided to restart development on an old former colony (from their perspective) known as Earth.
 

KiN0

Member
I love how Steven just assumes Peridot is someone he can have a friendly chat with. Poor guy really has no idea just how dangerous the world can be.

Peridot's recent activity with Earth might be because the crystal gems destroyed her Red Eye probe and she wanted to check out what was going on.

She didn't seem to realize the red eye was destroyed until Pearl mentioned it. Not that it matters. Peridot's surprise at the crystal gem's presence just has me wondering what Lapis is up to.
 

Raxus

Member
This might be a spoiler but maybe we'll get an explanation for this scene:

http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/815097garnet1.jpg

and confirmation that garnet is a fusion gem

Spoilers based on the leak. Don't highlight if you want to go in fresh!

Via: Google search. Garnet is not a single mineral, but describes a group of several closely related minerals. Garnets come in a variety of colors and have many different varieties. However, the most widely-known color of Garnet gemstones is dark red.

Pretty much confirms it along with the leak. Dark Blue and Red would be perfect to fuse into one gem.
 
Obscured eyes, squarish face, round shoulders... that one half of Garnet isn't it?
1bDUc5H.jpg

I'm really hoping the Garnet is a fused gem theory isn't true.
 

rexor0717

Member
Obscured eyes, squarish face, round shoulders... that one half of Garnet isn't it?


I'm really hoping the Garnet is a fused gem theory isn't true.
Oh come on, the evidence is like irrefutable. It's like people that were denying inhumans in Agents of shield.
 

rexor0717

Member
I'm not saying it isn't true, I just don't like the ideal. I think it takes away from garnet as a character.
I still don't see how that's the case. What does she lose by being a fusion? There is so much interesting internal struggle by her living as a fusion for so long. Garnet will always be Garnet.
 

rexor0717

Member
Like I'm assuming Ruby and Sapphire both have complete knowledge of their experience as Garnet. Hell, just typing that out makes me realize why Garnet is so happy that Steven fused with Connie. She loves being a fusion. As two separate gems, they will remember interacting with all these people, but now their motivations are somewhat different. All those times they had with Steven, Steven didn't have with them. He had it with Garnet, and that creates an interesting tension.
 

vypek

Member
I think Im gonna lose track of who has fused with who and who they form when they are fused. I wonder if they'll set a limit on the number of gems in a fusion.

As for Garnet
I'm curious if she really is a fusion already. If the theory is that she is a fusion of Sapphire and Ruby then that would surprise me since I would expect them to use names of types of garnet and I don't think either of those gems are.

I'd love it if they introduced a different type of quartz though
 
Based on the credits it seems Malachite might be a fusion of Jasper and Lapiz.
EEEEEEE. So excited the Steven Bomb.

I was kind of hoping Malachite might be a healed/un-corrupted version of the Centipeedle though. :<
Serves me right for getting too excited before properly taking it all in.

Either way Thursday is going to be a whole lot of fun...at this point Garnet being a fusion gem seems very likely; I can't wait to see what is done with the two characters that make her up if this ends up being the case.
 

Kai Dracon

Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Related to Garnet
if she is a fusion, I wonder if there is a particularly special reason why she has remained fused so long. I recall a notion that one of Garnet's gems may be damaged, to the point it can't be repaired. And the other half of Garnet fused, and stayed fused, to save the other gem.
 
Like I'm assuming Ruby and Sapphire both have complete knowledge of their experience as Garnet. Hell, just typing that out makes me realize why Garnet is so happy that Steven fused with Connie. She loves being a fusion. As two separate gems, they will remember interacting with all these people, but now their motivations are somewhat different. All those times they had with Steven, Steven didn't have with them. He had it with Garnet, and that creates an interesting tension.

I honestly don't mind as that would mean that instead of 3 gems that love Steven as a little bro there are four. Steven building his gem family army. Heck Lapis doesn't seem to hate him either.
 
Because if Garnet is just a fusion of two other characters then she ceases to be a unique individual and she just becomes a Gestalt of two actual people. The same why I don't I really consider Opal or Sugilite as characters on the show just amalgams of Pearl/Amethyst and Amethyst/Garnet respectively.

It also seems to brake the internal logic of of the show. All Fusions that we've seen all have multiple limbs and their weapons are combination of two other weapons.

But I'm willing to keep an open mind and hope Rebecca Suger has something clever planed other then she just a fused Gem.
 

vypek

Member
Because if Garnet is just a fusion of two other characters then she ceases to be a unique individual and she just becomes a Gestalt of two actual people. The same why I don't I really consider Opal or Sugilite as characters on the show just amalgams of Pearl/Amethyst and Amethyst/Garnet respectively.

It also seems to brake the internal logic of of the show. All Fusions that we've seen all have multiple limbs and their weapons are combination of two other weapons.

But I'm willing to keep an open mind and hope Rebecca Suger has something clever planed other then she just a fused Gem.
And it also might be a little confusing since I believe it was mentioned that they begin to "lose themselves" when fused too long. Garnet looks a little small for a fusion, barring the size of a human/gem fusion combo. But anything can happen.

I wonder if this even needs to be spoiler tagged. lol
 

Psxphile

Member
Finally a synopsis for 'Full Disclosure':

Friday, March 13 at 5:00 p.m. (ET/PT)… “Full Disclosure” –
Steven tries to avoid Connie so he doesn’t have to tell her about his most recent harrowing adventure.

It almost kinda sounds like a setup for a clip show.
 

KiN0

Member
I honestly don't mind as that would mean that instead of 3 gems that love Steven as a little bro there are four. Steven building his gem family army. Heck Lapis doesn't seem to hate him either.
I don't think anybody dislikes steven. He's like the chicken soup for all their emotional turmoil.

Because if Garnet is just a fusion of two other characters then she ceases to be a unique individual and she just becomes a Gestalt of two actual people. The same why I don't I really consider Opal or Sugilite as characters on the show just amalgams of Pearl/Amethyst and Amethyst/Garnet respectively.

It also seems to brake the internal logic of of the show. All Fusions that we've seen all have multiple limbs and their weapons are combination of two other weapons.

But I'm willing to keep an open mind and hope Rebecca Suger has something clever planed other then she just a fused Gem.

The stevonnie and sugilite episodes made it pretty clear that fusions are unique individuals.
 

Raxus

Member
And it also might be a little confusing since I believe it was mentioned that they begin to "lose themselves" when fused too long. Garnet looks a little small for a fusion, barring the size of a human/gem fusion combo. But anything can happen.

I wonder if this even needs to be spoiler tagged. lol

Well... DISCUSSION BASED ON FUTURE CLIPS

Considering Garnet seems to be the fusion of two kids(?) (based on Sapphire's size) it makes sense that they would form a slightly smaller (yet still incredibly tall) fusion ala Stevonnie. As far as Garnet being 'less of a character', I'd strongly disagree. Garnet seems to be the biggest enigma. Heck one episode is dedicated to the rest of the cast guessing what she does on her solo outings. Revealing Garnet as a fusion actually opens up a whole slew of stories for her which she has been sorely lacking even in the more character heavy season 2 (with the only true Garnet character episode being Future Vision). With Garnet being a (kid?) fusion opens up a whole new slew of story possibilities for Steven and the gems. What does it mean for her leader role? How will Steven interact with Garnet. Will Amethyst and Pearl still trust Garnet if they didn't know. Why did Garnet fuse in the first place. There are tons of possibilities.

As far as Garnet being an amalgam of Ruby and Sapphire, we know for sure she has a red, blue and purple (red and blue mixed) eye and she may be hiding her arms but who knows if Ruby even has arms. Even then Stevonnie didn't have extra arms when she fused. It could just be unique as KiN0 said.
 

Psxphile

Member
HAV86aZ.png


Oh there you are. And still airing at 5pm I see... that just leaves Story for Steven, unless that's Full Disclosure in disguise.

About Jail Break's preview:
I didn't notice the screams until the second rewatch. Sounds like the Gems are being tortured? How dark is this going to get?
 
HAV86aZ.png


Oh there you are. And still airing at 5pm I see... that just leaves Story for Steven, unless that's Full Disclosure in disguise.

About Jail Break's preview:
I didn't notice the screams until the second rewatch. Sounds like the Gems are being tortured? How dark is this going to get?
The show is starting to get dark. I'm liking this direction lol.
 

TheOGB

Banned
HAV86aZ.png


Oh there you are. And still airing at 5pm I see... that just leaves Story for Steven, unless that's Full Disclosure in disguise.

About Jail Break's preview:
I didn't notice the screams until the second rewatch. Sounds like the Gems are being tortured? How dark is this going to get?
[despair intensifies]
 
I don't think anybody dislikes steven. He's like the chicken soup for all their emotional turmoil.



The stevonnie and sugilite episodes made it pretty clear that fusions are unique individuals.

Garnet made the point that Stevonnie wasn't an individual but an experience.
 
Garnet made the point that Stevonnie wasn't an individual but an experience.

I take her saying that more-so in the way that a Fusion is a temporary "experience" that is expected to end and that Stevonnie shouldn't get wrapped up in thinking about it too hard and enjoy it.

Sugilite was fused for like a day or so (too long according to Pearl) and she out-right rejects the notion of defusing because she then sees herself as an individual and that being separated takes that away. Now, the internal goings on that result in that? Not sure. Maybe Sugilite's individual persona grew to over-ride them. Maybe Garnet and Amy started to think of themselves AS Sugilite, meaning that they effectively lost themselves as individuals and started to think of them-self as just HER.

Either way Stevonnie and Sug show that Fusions have individual personalities.
 

vypek

Member
Well... DISCUSSION BASED ON FUTURE CLIPS

Considering Garnet seems to be the fusion of two kids(?) (based on Sapphire's size) it makes sense that they would form a slightly smaller (yet still incredibly tall) fusion ala Stevonnie. As far as Garnet being 'less of a character', I'd strongly disagree. Garnet seems to be the biggest enigma. Heck one episode is dedicated to the rest of the cast guessing what she does on her solo outings. Revealing Garnet as a fusion actually opens up a whole slew of stories for her which she has been sorely lacking even in the more character heavy season 2 (with the only true Garnet character episode being Future Vision). With Garnet being a (kid?) fusion opens up a whole new slew of story possibilities for Steven and the gems. What does it mean for her leader role? How will Steven interact with Garnet. Will Amethyst and Pearl still trust Garnet if they didn't know. Why did Garnet fuse in the first place. There are tons of possibilities.

As far as Garnet being an amalgam of Ruby and Sapphire, we know for sure she has a red, blue and purple (red and blue mixed) eye and she may be hiding her arms but who knows if Ruby even has arms. Even then Stevonnie didn't have extra arms when she fused. It could just be unique as KiN0 said.

Yeah, I guess she could be that size for two gem fusion. I just assumed that 3 eyes were just unique to her randomly for future vision. And I assumed gems would be larger even for child fusions. The Stevonnie fusion size made sense to me just because I thought that being mostly human that they were small. I still think she is an individual when fused and I agree that it would open a lot of good story points if she really is.

Yeah, could be ruby has no arms or one of the two has one good eye so thats where the 3 eyes comes from. Really interesting stuff.
 

Psxphile

Member
Hey now
tumblr_nkvje7xKRl1tkhqtso1_400.jpg



Crystal Gems Handbook (Steven Universe) Hardcover – October 6, 2015
by Rebecca Sugar (Author)

Introducing the Crystal Gems from Steven Universe!

Get ready to immerse yourself in the amazing world of Steven Universe! The Crystal Gems—Garnet, Amethyst, and Pearl—are three of the toughest heroes on earth. They are also mentors to Steven Universe, a gem/human hybrid boy whose mother was an original Gem. Learn all about the Crystal Gems’ powers, abilities, and stories in this handbook—a must-have for every Steven Universe fan!
 

Zubz

Banned
So, there's another Fusion coming up, with Lapis and a new gem? This week keeps looking like it's going to be bigger and bigger, plotwise!
 

KiN0

Member
Great news about lapis. I've been waiting for more of her. I can't imagine how powerful her fusion gem would be. So far she's hands down the most powerful of the known gems, fusions included.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom