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What is the most mature M rated game?

sn00zer

Member
M for mature is more like M for ..... I dunno really...most games are far from mature. So gaf what is the most mature "Mature" rated game?
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Last of Us was the only one I could think of off the top of my head.... usually the most mature games are E10+ to T.
 

Rell

Member
Killer7 deserves it the most.

Killer7 is like if an NC-17 movie was a videogame; obviously operating under some kind of different social standard, definitely very thought provoking but ultimately thematically shallow, and would absolutely never exists in a mainstream context.
 

sn00zer

Member
I'd throw in Wolf Among Us....game played it very strange concept incredibly straight faced without a hint of irony...had some fairly difficult decisions as well.
 
Oh, Nier is a really good one. Definitely a game with a VERY heavy tone.
EDIT
If you happen to have the sexual maturity of a teenager.
If you look at it THAT one dimensionally, sure. A huge part of the game is that if you answer the questions honestly as possible, it shows you a look at what kind of relationship you might actually want. At least, that's how it felt to me.
 

Noobcraft

Member
Gotta go GTAV, but Ryse is also up there. Ryse gets weird at the end lol.

Edit: I may not understand what OP is asking for.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
That really depends on what your definition of 'Mature' is.

I don't actually think it's rated in America (though has a release in America as of last year), but I know it's 18+ to PEGI, so I am going to answer off the top of my head Saya no Uta.

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Because of the sex scenes, I think it'd be rated A for Adult in America if it was rated, but I think Saya no Uta does a good fine line between telling very mature themes in a mature way, while also being incredibly disturbing and graphic in a very intense way, despite being a visual novel. It's an incredibly interesting, yet, incredibly disturbing game, but handled with a good level of tact and maturity about its themes, that go deep into the deranged.
 

sn00zer

Member
That really depends on what your definition of 'Mature' is.

I don't actually think it's rated in America (though has a release in America as of last year), but I know it's 18+ to PEGI, so I am going to answer off the top of my head Saya no Uta.

Saya-no-Uta-juxtaposition.jpg


Because of the sex scenes, I think it'd be rated A for Adult in America if it was rated, but I think Saya no Uta does a good fine line between telling very mature themes in a mature way, while also being incredibly disturbing and graphic in a very intense way, despite being a visual novel. It's an incredibly interesting, yet, incredibly disturbing game, but handled with a good level of tact and maturity about its themes, that go deep into the deranged.
Is this the one where a guy gets in an accident and sees the world a meaty blobs? I rad the wiki on that...got damn
 
If you look at it THAT one dimensionally, sure. A huge part of the game is that if you answer the questions honestly as possible, it shows you a look at what kind of relationship you might actually want. At least, that's how it felt to me.

If the game handled it from the position I have taken in those situations in real life there would have been no game to play. I found the options and the character to be highly immature that didn't want to take responsibility for their own actions. I really enjoyed the game but maturity isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Maybe maturity in focusing a game about relationships, which is the main reason I enjoyed the game but the approach to relationships of that sort wasn't mature in the slightest.

My own nomination would be Telltales The Walking Dead. The relationship between Lee and Clementine was really well written. Even though it had the daft fun zombie stuff the position of the protective father figure was so well done and the transition into the youngster having to stand on their own was done much better than The Last of Us, the Walking Dead approached it as a separation similar to a child leaving the nest with an ending that is emotionally charged in a way that echoed something that every father is going to experience at some point.
 

Corpsepyre

Banned
It really depends on how one defines 'Mature'. If you're going to go with blood and guts, then no, not all those games are 'Mature'.

For me, the games need to tackle adult concepts as well, and for that reason, games like Spec Ops: The Line, The Wolf Among Us, The Walking Dead, Heavy Rain are good examples. Sure, Spec Ops: The Line might cater to the regular shooter crowd, but the plot at its core is far from your every day 'Hellz yeah' mentality present in those games. The other games I mentioned follow suit as well in their own fashion.
 

ngFROMAN

Neo Member
Killer7 deserves it the most.

Killer7 is like if an NC-17 movie was a videogame; obviously operating under some kind of different social standard, definitely very thought provoking but ultimately thematically shallow, and would absolutely never exists in a mainstream context.

This. People brutally die for no reason, Pedophilia and rape are explored, everyone is in a psychosis of some sort, and everything is carefully constructed to induce nightmares if you don't manage to figure out what the story is trying to tell you. Its the act of going insane as a video game.
 

PreFire

Member
Most of Rockstar games come to mind when I think true M rating. These are games you wouldn't play around a child unless you're an evil bastard.

Does anyone know why they (Rockstar specifically) stopped animating people's heads being blown off (literally, the whole head) when you headshot them with a high caliber gun? I think the last game where you could do this was San Andreas.

Same goes for the chainsaw. Haven't seen it in a GTA game in a long time. Is it too gruesome for an M rating? Would body dismemberment, decapitations and realistic gore (which no games truly have) in a game already crammed with mature content call for an Adult Only rating?

PS. I know games like Bioshock, Dark Souls, etc have decapitations and gruesome content.. But most of these games lack the story full of drug use, hooker banging, store robbing, alcohol abusing, and other crazy shit GTA has.
 

Lebneney

Banned
I thought that The Godfather: Blackhand Edition was pretty much an accurate representation of a mature game with all of the extortion, mob warfare, and the such. It was my first rated M Wii game.

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BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
The Last of Us and the BioShock series I think are good candidates, at least for me anyway.


This.

Both have deep themes, ideas, and concepts that only a matured mind can properly assess. Whilst also having the gore, violence, drugs and other themes that also help carry OT to the "Mature" rating.
 
If the game handled it from the position I have taken in those situations in real life there would have been no game to play. I found the options and the character to be highly immature that didn't want to take responsibility for there own actions. I really enjoyed the game but maturity isn't the first thing that comes to mind. Maybe maturity in focusing a game about relationships, which is the main reason I enjoyed the game but the approach to relationships of that sort wasn't mature in the slightest.

You can have immature characters in a mature game.

Seeing the consequences of that immature characters actions makes it all the better.
 

xzeldax3

Member
Persona 3 and 4 are coming of age stories that show the characters grow as they face bigger versions (over dramatized from the supernatural elements) of problems that many of us might struggle with.
 
You can have immature characters in a mature game.

Seeing the consequences of that immature characters actions makes it all the better.

Of course, however the game doesn't give you a means to approach it from a mature position due to the character. It never really shows any growth of the character after the stuff happens to him either or different approaches as you have to go through the cycle for the dreams. The ending also diminishes the effect and turns it into humour based approach rather than something with a bit of bite. It is certainly more mature than many of its contemporaries and explores a larger set of relationship themes than other games but I personally wouldn't hold it up as an example of maturity within gaming as a medium as it highlights how far behind other mediums sexual and relationship maturity in games actually are. But seeing as games have only really started to tackle the subject it is a very good start.
 

JayEH

Junior Member
MGSV looks to be going to some dark places.

Other than that I'll throw my hat in with Persona, Catherine, and Manhunt as well.
 

retroman

Member
Silent Hill 2 always felt like a 'mature' (by video game standards) title to me.

I'd go with Silent Hill 2 for dealing with sexuality in a nuanced and adult manner.

I'm going to say Silent Hill 2, I think the fact that most of it's mature content is somewhat subliminal makes it more mature.

I agree.

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Shattered Memories also deals with mature themes in a non-juvenile way.

Also, the ending is one of my all-time favourite video game endings. I couldn't stop thinking about it for quite a while.
 

jakomocha

Member
I'm under 17, and have played most of the games mentioned so far.
I'm such a rebel!

My own personal nominations would be The Walking Dead (both seasons), a game which despite having a rather large teenager fanbase, tackles a lot of mature themes such as loss, the role of a guardian/father, and loss of innocence, TLOU (for almost the exact same reason as TWD), The Wolf Among Us, Bioshock games, GTA games, and Spec Ops: The Line.
 

bomblord1

Banned
Are we talking "Mature" as in an adult perspective with thoughtful addressing of controversial and mature issues.

Or are we talking mature as in how much gore and breasts can we fit in a single framebuffer?
 
That really depends on what your definition of 'Mature' is.

I don't actually think it's rated in America (though has a release in America as of last year), but I know it's 18+ to PEGI, so I am going to answer off the top of my head Saya no Uta.

Saya-no-Uta-juxtaposition.jpg


Because of the sex scenes, I think it'd be rated A for Adult in America if it was rated, but I think Saya no Uta does a good fine line between telling very mature themes in a mature way, while also being incredibly disturbing and graphic in a very intense way, despite being a visual novel. It's an incredibly interesting, yet, incredibly disturbing game, but handled with a good level of tact and maturity about its themes, that go deep into the deranged.

I've heard about this game, I read a synopsis on wiki.

I think I'm gonna say no to Uta.
 
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