Well maybe you should start.
In all seriousness, we're not going to get a Lost Vikings free week for a long time, are we?
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Well maybe you should start.
In all seriousness, we're not going to get a Lost Vikings free week for a long time, are we?
Next rotation sounds cool, I have been wanting to try Zeratul for the most selfish of reasons.
A few people were saying that Blizzard needs data on him that being in the free pool would provide, so I feel like it won't be that much longer. He has a very high win rate right now IIRC, but the amount of games he's actually been in has been comparatively low so it's hard to make balance calls.
A few people were saying that Blizzard needs data on him that being in the free pool would provide, so I feel like it won't be that much longer. He has a very high win rate right now IIRC, but the amount of games he's actually been in has been comparatively low so it's hard to make balance calls.
Almost every hero's win rate drops during free week, even the easy ones.
Based on the speed Jaina and Thrall got into rotation I would imagine Lost Vikings will be very soon.
I took being a ranger all the way up to eleven guys. Mostly cause of my grizzly bear companion Davemo, EH!
Seriously though, I laughed. Best.
Should be very soon, actually. They always put em on free a little over a month after release. I forget the exact number of weeks.
reSpec Gaming
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Awesome
TurboLibre
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If I'm playing the Vikings and I split them up, am I getting double experience for standing around any kills? And is there any reliable way to switch between Them? The space bar always takes me to the far away one and the others get slaughtered quickly.
reSpec Gaming
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Never played 'em but I thought that was the best part about them, splitting them up so you can soak up experience in multiple places. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I think as long as one person from your team is around, your team is going to pick up the EXP from any kills anyways. My friend who plays Vikings splits up at the beginning to jump start the "viking horde" talent. You can get x3 the regeneration orbs by being in all 3 lanes.
Aside from that they are great for splitting up and getting different objectives. It only takes one viking to control the Garden Terror or Dragon Knight for example, while the other two are free to do whatever.
brickwalker0
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If any hero is near a kill, the team gets full experience. So if you split them up into two empty lanes, you're getting double experience. If you split them into occupied lanes, you're not getting any extra experience.
Splitting them up is a potentially powerful strategy, but the rest of the team needs to make use of the freedom or it's wasted. If your allies just sit in their lanes, splitting the Vikings just makes managing them more difficult and gains nothing.
TurboLibre
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Okay cool. So gathering regen orbs is the way to go, but the only real viable way to do that is to hang behind the gate and gather in shifts, huh? Because split up they're easy pickins, especially when you turn away for a second. Run in as one, hunt the mage and run back. Repeat with the other two?
And I'm running into constant problems with them in the mines. Damn Olaf always lags and even if I'm operating them all at once, his waypoint is disabled once the other two enter. So he stays up top and gets demolished. Or I try to quickly switch to him and there's a chance my other two are getting demolished in the mines. It only takes a second, but a second is all it takes with these guys. A similar thing happens when one of them dies. I'll hit spacebar and even if I have it locked on 4, my spacebar will sometimes take me to the nexus. It's pretty frustrating and has killed me quite a few times.
Otherwise they're a lot of fun. I just hope they iron them out a bit more.
And I'm running into constant problems with them in the mines. Damn Olaf always lags and even if I'm operating them all at once, his waypoint is disabled once the other two enter. So he stays up top and gets demolished. Or I try to quickly switch to him and there's a chance my other two are getting demolished in the mines. It only takes a second, but a second is all it takes with these guys. A similar thing happens when one of them dies. I'll hit spacebar and even if I have it locked on 4, my spacebar will sometimes take me to the nexus. It's pretty frustrating and has killed me quite a few times.
Otherwise they're a lot of fun. I just hope they iron them out a bit more.
you need to be close to minions for xp to count. so no, you dont hang out behind the gate. what would be the point then? youre supposed to be helping, doing dmg, not standing around
TurboLibre
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I'm talking regeneration orbs. Because managing three separate (weak) heroes against enemy teams you cant see all at once doesn't sound like a good way to survive.
And only at the start. Once you have enough stacks I imagine you'd be in good shape. And they need to be together for longboat.
And only at the start. Once you have enough stacks I imagine you'd be in good shape. And they need to be together for longboat.
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Hide them in the grass near the middle of the lane. Most of the time they'll be fine unless the other team is actively hunting your individual vikings. It's rather easy to get 2-3x the XP of any other hero doing it and just listen for the audio cues when they are being attacked and learn to use hot keys to target individual vikings for the move.
It helps to have played Starcraft 2 previously
So vikings strats.
In the very beginning of the game you should keep them together unless someone on your team leaves a lane empty. Then send Eric. Don't worry about orbs at this point.
They are too squishy to effectively lane against any other hero as a lone Viking all you can really do is soak.
But that's the benefit. During early game objectives, take one Viking to the objective. And leave the other two in a bush near the creep lines (where the two waves meet) in two separate lanes. Propel your team to 10 while also contributing to teamfights!
Lvl 7 is where vikings shine. The better you get at micro and minimap awareness the more you can split push towers while also effectively team fighting.
Lvl 10 and beyond go long boat and bring all vikings to every team fight if it's off cooldown. If not, continue to keep your Vikings spread. Team fight with one or two, Push lanes, Assist taking mercs, soak xp. You provide xp, vision and assistance. This is where your orb count sky rockets.
Late game, when your pushing core or your core is getting pushed, is like the only time I'm confident to say always keep your Vikings together. Otherwise, even after 20 more xp is always a good thing. If they have to send one whole hero to respond to 1/3rd a hero then you win.
In the very beginning of the game you should keep them together unless someone on your team leaves a lane empty. Then send Eric. Don't worry about orbs at this point.
They are too squishy to effectively lane against any other hero as a lone Viking all you can really do is soak.
But that's the benefit. During early game objectives, take one Viking to the objective. And leave the other two in a bush near the creep lines (where the two waves meet) in two separate lanes. Propel your team to 10 while also contributing to teamfights!
Lvl 7 is where vikings shine. The better you get at micro and minimap awareness the more you can split push towers while also effectively team fighting.
Lvl 10 and beyond go long boat and bring all vikings to every team fight if it's off cooldown. If not, continue to keep your Vikings spread. Team fight with one or two, Push lanes, Assist taking mercs, soak xp. You provide xp, vision and assistance. This is where your orb count sky rockets.
Late game, when your pushing core or your core is getting pushed, is like the only time I'm confident to say always keep your Vikings together. Otherwise, even after 20 more xp is always a good thing. If they have to send one whole hero to respond to 1/3rd a hero then you win.
diablo/tyrande on same free week is pretty hype
glaurang on this new patch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdNwR6Ti5s&feature=youtu.be
glaurang on this new patch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRdNwR6Ti5s&feature=youtu.be
I have 30k gold and only need Abathur and Gaz. Can't bring myself to do it since I didn't buy them on sale. Maybe I should JUST DO IT (TM).
I'm on 23k and thinking "jaina is safe she's too new" but that's what I said about Azmo >_>
Also Gaz is 4k, wtf Alur? That's not even worth buying for rm on sale, get him now!
Holy shit, Murky has a positive win % - https://www.hotslogs.com (h/t Reddit)
Stitches has fallen through the floor. I suspect most of the tanks are going to end up there simply because of how the game is currently designed, where multiple tanks = QM disaster due to lack of damage.
edit: Holy F@#$#@%ing shit he has the 3rd highest win % in Master League QM- https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroAndMapStatistics
Stitches has fallen through the floor. I suspect most of the tanks are going to end up there simply because of how the game is currently designed, where multiple tanks = QM disaster due to lack of damage.
edit: Holy F@#$#@%ing shit he has the 3rd highest win % in Master League QM- https://www.hotslogs.com/Sitewide/HeroAndMapStatistics
while murky is certainly better now (only on particular maps imo, like spider and dragon), you should take the stats w/ a grain of salt since he has one of the lowest pick rates.
much rather have a murky than an abathur tho
stitches will be one of the best warriors until he's not tanky enough by virtue of his kit
Anecdotal, but Milly79 and I just dominated two games as Nova + Murky. Easiest two wins I've had since patch.
Livin' The Dream is a legit boost. Hits like a truck if they are fool enough to stand in it (or you have them captive via stun/cc/slow/whatever), and the Octograb wombo potential is real. At least he's fun again and I can enjoy playing him.
Livin' The Dream is a legit boost. Hits like a truck if they are fool enough to stand in it (or you have them captive via stun/cc/slow/whatever), and the Octograb wombo potential is real. At least he's fun again and I can enjoy playing him.
Octograb has a ridiculously low cooldown for how good an effect it is. Did not realize it was that short.
Too fucking fun.
You mean find you one of my 3 remaining EU keys? >_>
Ooooh nice. It can go one of two ways. I'll lag, and you can rage. Or I won't lag too bad...and we can rage together!
In party chat.
Can't be worse than the muppets I get in QM. Also all the losses lately broke me and I don't rage anymore, because I don't care anymore. Which is a bad thing and why BB is not the only reason I'm not playing that much lately
Pm'ed you a eu beta key.
I've got three more left if anyone wants one. Just don't sell them or swap them for drugs or something .
You are a true gentleman...and honestly, your nose isn't THAT big.
Rhaknar, when you come back in a few days for your next round of dailies you should jump on the new Murky. Think I remember you saying you had fun with him in free week. He is much better now. Probably still just reaching average level, but not dead weight and can actually contribute without mindlessly throwing himself at walls and forts.
Rhaknar, when you come back in a few days for your next round of dailies you should jump on the new Murky. Think I remember you saying you had fun with him in free week. He is much better now. Probably still just reaching average level, but not dead weight and can actually contribute without mindlessly throwing himself at walls and forts.
It's not like I'm in a hole playing BB. My monitor is right next to me and I'm always online on battlenet (and steam) so if you see me on let me know and I'll play
Also I can't jump on the new Murky because I don't own murky
IceMarker! I think everyone is wanting that map even more than some of us fanboys wanted Sylvanas. And it won't be next patch - I'd bet my two account total of 70k gold on that. We'll see a new hero, as usual, but I wouldn't expect another map til at least May or June.
In theory, if they were gonna do the Diablo pack that people talked about, we'd see one of the heroes next patch (April), another after that (May), and then finally the map and the final hero (June).
If they did them all it once...
In theory, if they were gonna do the Diablo pack that people talked about, we'd see one of the heroes next patch (April), another after that (May), and then finally the map and the final hero (June).
If they did them all it once...
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