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"I Need a New PC!" 2015 Part 1. Read the OP and RISE ABOVE FORGED PRECISION SCIENCE

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b0bbyJ03

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I've never overclocked a GPU before. I noticed that people do it using software. I've got an EVGA 980 so i was thinking about using their software. Does the overclock only work if the software is running. With my cpu, I changed the setting in the BIOS so I know that those stick for good. How does it work with a GPU? Also, any tips would be appreciated. thanks.
 
Has there been any word on if/when Phanteks is going to release the Enthoo Evolv ATX version of the case? It was shown during CES in January, and no information since then.
 

JackHerer

Member
Hey guys. I got all my parts this week and finally put my new PC together. It's amazing!! Thanks again for helping me choose the right parts. It's absolutely destroying GTA V right now at 1440p maxed. I haven't tried FRAPS yet but I must be getting near 90-100 FPS at all times. It's glorious.

i7 5960x
Rampage V Extreme X99
32g DDR4 2800Mhz G.Skill Ripjaw
H110 Corsair Cooler
2x Titan X
Samsung Evo 750 SSD 1 TB

Edit: I'll post a pic when I get a chance. I still need to do some final cable management.
 

Chitown B

Member
i5 4690K
ASRock Z97E-ITX/AC High-End Z97 Mini-itx
Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB GDDR5 OC version
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHz
Intel 510 Series 120GB SSD


Will upping to 16GB RAM or faster RAM show much performance increase (relative to cost)? My mobo will go up to 3200 speed on RAM.

Currently at 7.7 out of 7.9 on the Windows Experience rating in Win7 Ultimate.
 
In the "Excellent - Best overall" build, is this going to be MUCH better than a laptop with a 980M and i7?

Because here in canada pcpartpicker gets me the lowest at 1700$, add in a decent monitor and keyboard, and it's a 2200$ deal, same as the laptop mentionned above, except I could move around a lot easier with the laptop.
 

TomRL

Banned
So I've recently been interested in upgrading my GPU. I currently have an r7 260 combined with an FX 8350 CPU. I started in the mid £100's range but then got into the slippery slope of thinking "Well if I just pay £20 more I could get this", and now I have my mind set on a GTX 970 lol.
I currently only have a 450 watt Corsair PSU though so I'm going to upgrade to something like 650 to accommodate the gpu and the inefficient AMD cpu. I've looked at the max power draw that has been recorded on both the GTX 970 and the FX 8350 and it goes higher than my current 450PSU. So that takes the price to just over £300
So before I do I've just come here to make sure I'm right on my thinking here and that I have the necessary Motherboard/PC case.

I currently have a Zalman Z3 PC case, is this big enough to house the 970?
My current motherboard: Gigabyte Technology GA-78LMT-USB3 (Socket M2) 31 °C, is this compatible with the gpu I'm getting?
Is there anything else I'm missing out? I don't want to have a nasty surprise when I get the thing.
What should I do with the R7 260? Should I sell it or use it to power a second monitor or something.
 

garath

Member
I've never overclocked a GPU before. I noticed that people do it using software. I've got an EVGA 980 so i was thinking about using their software. Does the overclock only work if the software is running. With my cpu, I changed the setting in the BIOS so I know that those stick for good. How does it work with a GPU? Also, any tips would be appreciated. thanks.

You don't have to use EVGA Precision to do the overclock, though you certainly can. MSI's afterburner software is the front runner in that software though. You can use either.

The overclock only persists while the software is running. You open it, set the overclock, apply it and then it stays until the software is closed or the overclock is disabled (or the machine rebooted). You can set the software to open on windows start and automatically load an overclock profile if you desire.
 

Uthred

Member
Budget? Any specific features or design that you prefer?

Budget isnt a major concern, less than €200 I suppose. Feature wise, at least eight drive bays, thats about it. Design wise I'd prefer something that doesnt scream "Gamer". Using a Thermaltake Armor at the moment (with the half doors taken off because they are painfully pointless). Something like the Corsair Obsidian Series 750D (which is the current fore-runner for me)
 

NeOak

Member
In the "Excellent - Best overall" build, is this going to be MUCH better than a laptop with a 980M and i7?

Because here in canada pcpartpicker gets me the lowest at 1700$, add in a decent monitor and keyboard, and it's a 2200$ deal, same as the laptop mentionned above, except I could move around a lot easier with the laptop.

That desktop build will beat the laptop. The CPU will be at least 1GHz higher compared to the ones at that price range (the 2.5Ghz 4710HQ) and the 970 is a "4GB" (lol) card with a bit more cores and more breathing room for turbo.
 
That desktop build will beat the laptop. The CPU will be at least 1GHz higher compared to the ones at that price range (the 2.5Ghz 4710HQ) and the 970 is a "4GB" (lol) card with a bit more cores and more breathing room for turbo.

Will it be like, really really stupidly faster? Or just a bit?
 

Jarrod357

Neo Member
I need some advice. My build is

X6 1090t 3.9ghz
6950 crossfire
8Gb ram

I want to upgrade but im torn on whether i should upgrade to a gtx970 or upgrade to a i5 4690k. What would be the best bang for the buck in prep for witcher 3. I game at 1080p.
 

NeOak

Member
You're still comparing a desktop cpu to desktop cpu. And not taking the 970 vs 980m into account.

I'm comparing a lower clocked by bout 500 Mhz vs the laptop one Desktop CPU against the normal desktop CPU.

But seems DF has what we needed:

GeForce GTX 980M Laptop GPU vs Desktop GTX 970/ GTX 780/ GTX 680 1080p Benchmarks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSajLEWkuI

And that is with the 4710HQ for the laptop and a 3770k @ 4.3Ghz for the desktop ones.

That makes the desktop 15% to 20% faster. Not double.
 
I'm comparing a lower clocked by bout 500 Mhz vs the laptop one Desktop CPU against the normal desktop CPU.

But seems DF has what we needed:

GeForce GTX 980M Laptop GPU vs Desktop GTX 970/ GTX 780/ GTX 680 1080p Benchmarks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGSajLEWkuI

And that is with the 4710HQ for the laptop and a 3770k @ 4.3Ghz for the desktop ones.

That makes the desktop 15% to 20% faster. Not double.

So according to this, and the ease of moving to my friend's place (almost every week, sometimes multiple times) I think the laptop would be a better purchase, for the same price for me.
 

Condom

Member
Hey guys.

Have some SLI problems...probably related to heat.

I got a 2nd 660 for SLI. What I discovered is that once GPU1 reaches 75 degrees Celsius, the driver crashes (sound still plays though).

Is it normal for SLI set-ups to need high fan speeds? I used to play with very low speeds before.
 
I'm looking for a 23-25" monitor that can do 1440p. What choices do I have without breaking the bank, GAF?

What's breaking the bank? Dell has a one for $500 and under - Dell UltraSharp U2515H, I've heard a lot of good things about it. The Acer G257HU is also really nice and under $300. I was looking at that before I ended up with a pair of Auria 2560x1440 monitors. Sadly Auria doesn't make them anymore.

Hey guys.

Have some SLI problems...probably related to heat.

I got a 2nd 660 for SLI. What I discovered is that once GPU1 reaches 75 degrees Celsius, the driver crashes (sound still plays though).

Is it normal for SLI set-ups to need high fan speeds? I used to play with very low speeds before.

When you add another card for SLI/Crossfire, you are also adding more heat into the equation. If your case doesn't have a decent amount of airflow then things are going to get hot real fast.

How many fans (intake/exhaust) do you have? What case are you using?

You also may want to look into under-volting the videocards to produce less heat / less fan noise. Try using either Precision X or MSI Afterburner to drop the voltage and see if it helps.
 
Hey guys. I got all my parts this week and finally put my new PC together. It's amazing!! Thanks again for helping me choose the right parts. It's absolutely destroying GTA V right now at 1440p maxed. I haven't tried FRAPS yet but I must be getting near 90-100 FPS at all times. It's glorious.

i7 5960x
Rampage V Extreme X99
32g DDR4 2800Mhz G.Skill Ripjaw
H110 Corsair Cooler
2x Titan X
Samsung Evo 750 SSD 1 TB

Edit: I'll post a pic when I get a chance. I still need to do some final cable management.

This is beastly.

Welcome to X99 bro.
 

RGM79

Member
You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar, and much thanks to LilJoka and lordfuzzybutt as well. Hope you don't mind the forensic analysis - this would be my first build and would represent a sizeable investment, so I want to make doubly sure I get it right first time. Knowing GAF's got my back keeps the stress levels manageable.

One last thing - another GAFer mentioned that motherboard won't support SLI, but the "Gaming 5" model does. Is this indeed the case?

Thanks once again.

Damn it, he's completely right. I thought the MSI Gaming 3 did support SLI and didn't double-check that. Apparently I mixed it up with the Gigabyte Gaming 3 model which does support SLI. My bad.

Alright, at least someone caught my mistake. Here's two motherboards that do support SLI that I can recommend, they cost £10 more than the MSI motherboard I originally chose.

MSI Z97S SLI Krait Edition (£90)
Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI (£90)

so I'm trying to tell a friend which upgrades he should make to his pc, and I'm no expert. But he's only got 4gb of ram, so I told him his cheapest upgrade for the most performance boost would be to upgrade that to 8gb at least. Is there a concern over the new 4gb matching his old 4gb? or can he just plug in any ddr3 ram and be ok?

Technically as long as it's DDR3 RAM, it'll work. Mismatching memory just means it'll all default to the same settings (1333MHz or something close), but for best compatibility, it shouldn't be too hard to find memory that matches what he already has. Tell him to run a program like HWInfo or CPU-Z or Speccy, and look at the memory section for model or serial numbers.

guys, the CPU fan in my oldish (2009) desktop keeps reving. But it only started after moving it from one location to another. Do I need to reapply the thermal paste? Should I try a can of compressed air first?

How do temperatures look? Use HWMonitor or something similar to check how hot your CPU is getting. Giving it a cleaning isn't a bad idea. Make sure there's nothing interfering with the fan. Because you said it only happened after moving the PC, I don't think it would be the thermal paste. Is there enough ventilation where you put the new PC? Make sure fan mounts aren't being blocked.

The Windows 8.1 you linked is the DVD, which I can't use due to not having an optical drive (I could rip the iso I guess, but it comes at pretty much the same price of the download if you count shipping).
I have read that the R9 290 is louder and consumes more power-wise, and I kind of prefer nvidia card overall, so I'm still not sure on that (the link to the comparison doesn't work, but Google was helpful enough)
Just out of curiosity, was the build I originally posted any good? The changes you made were for saving money, right? It's my first time building so I'd like to know if I was on a good track at least :D
Thanks again for all your help, I'll stop bothering you after this, I promise!

1. Even if you don't have a DVD drive, all you need is the product key that comes along with the disc. Enter that into Microsoft's official tool and they will help you download and create a Windows installer for USB. If it comes out to cost the same as buying Windows online, then there's no point, I guess. Sorry, I did not notice what kind of shipping it had.

2. It's fine if you prefer Nvidia, the GTX 970 undoubtedly has advantages over the R9 290. I'm just offering potential alternatives.

3. Overall your first build was pretty good, they are solid choices. We have recommended to other users many of the parts you chose, but Italian prices seem somewhat higher and we usually recommend parts for people in the USA, that's all. For that reason I recommended the cheaper ASRock motherboard, among other things.
 

Poetic

Member
Do most air coolers work on a x99/2011-3 cpu?

All my parts come in tomorrow, but I'm 2nd guessing the case and how I want to cool. I might return the h440 and h100i and go with a different case, fans, and air cooler instead. I don't really plan on overclocking the cpu I think.
 

Kintaro

Worships the porcelain goddess
Hey guys. I got all my parts this week and finally put my new PC together. It's amazing!! Thanks again for helping me choose the right parts. It's absolutely destroying GTA V right now at 1440p maxed. I haven't tried FRAPS yet but I must be getting near 90-100 FPS at all times. It's glorious.

i7 5960x
Rampage V Extreme X99
32g DDR4 2800Mhz G.Skill Ripjaw
H110 Corsair Cooler
2x Titan X
Samsung Evo 750 SSD 1 TB

Edit: I'll post a pic when I get a chance. I still need to do some final cable management.

I would be interested in seeing a pic. =D
 

RGM79

Member
i5 4690K
ASRock Z97E-ITX/AC High-End Z97 Mini-itx
Sapphire Radeon R9 270X 2GB GDDR5 OC version
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHz
Intel 510 Series 120GB SSD

Will upping to 16GB RAM or faster RAM show much performance increase (relative to cost)? My mobo will go up to 3200 speed on RAM.

Currently at 7.7 out of 7.9 on the Windows Experience rating in Win7 Ultimate.

Not really, there won't be much of a performance boost. The advantages of higher speed RAM aren't always apparent and you'll likely not even notice it unless you're doing memory benchmarks that tell you exactly how fast it is. I usually recommend higher speed RAM, but only if it's available at a cheap price (which there usually is). I recommend it because if it's available for minimal extra cost and could offer a boost in certain specific situations with certain programs, then there's no reason not to take it.

Your motherboard may support up to 3200MHz memory OC, but your RAM is only rated at 1600MHz. I don't know if it has any XMP profile for anything higher like 1866MHz (you can check in the BIOS menu) but if you wanted faster memory, you may need to replace your RAM. I wouldn't recommend it, unless you are able to sell your existing RAM to make up for the cost.

So I've recently been interested in upgrading my GPU. I currently have an r7 260 combined with an FX 8350 CPU. I started in the mid £100's range but then got into the slippery slope of thinking "Well if I just pay £20 more I could get this", and now I have my mind set on a GTX 970 lol.
I currently only have a 450 watt Corsair PSU though so I'm going to upgrade to something like 650 to accommodate the gpu and the inefficient AMD cpu. I've looked at the max power draw that has been recorded on both the GTX 970 and the FX 8350 and it goes higher than my current 450PSU. So that takes the price to just over £300
So before I do I've just come here to make sure I'm right on my thinking here and that I have the necessary Motherboard/PC case.

I currently have a Zalman Z3 PC case, is this big enough to house the 970?
My current motherboard: Gigabyte Technology GA-78LMT-USB3 (Socket M2) 31 °C, is this compatible with the gpu I'm getting?
Is there anything else I'm missing out? I don't want to have a nasty surprise when I get the thing.
What should I do with the R7 260? Should I sell it or use it to power a second monitor or something.

1. Different graphics cards have different size coolers and are therefore different sizes, there's no single size for the GTX 970. The Zalman Z3's product page does say it supports graphics cards up to 360mm and the longest GTX 970 cards (triple fan Gigabyte Windforce) are still less than 320mm, so you're safe.

2. Yes, your motherboard is compatible.

3. Not that I can see. Graphics card and PSU upgrades are fairly straightforward. Have you already decided on what power supply you're getting? The cheapest power supply I can recommend is the EVGA 600B which is £50. If you want something better in terms of quality and features, there's the XFX Pro Series 650 watt bronze semi-modular PSU for £62 or the Antec TruePower Classic 650 watt gold non-modular PSU for £60.

4. What you do with the 260 is up to you. You can't use it in the same PC alongside the GTX 970 if that's what you mean by second monitor. The GTX 970 is already capable of driving three monitors by itself, so it's not needed anyway.

Budget isnt a major concern, less than €200 I suppose. Feature wise, at least eight drive bays, thats about it. Design wise I'd prefer something that doesnt scream "Gamer". Using a Thermaltake Armor at the moment (with the half doors taken off because they are painfully pointless). Something like the Corsair Obsidian Series 750D (which is the current fore-runner for me)

Well, besides Corsair I can recommend you look at NZXT, Fractal Design, Lian Li, Phanteks, Silverstone..

Do most air coolers work on a x99/2011-3 cpu?

All my parts come in tomorrow, but I'm 2nd guessing the case and how I want to cool. I might return the h440 and h100i and go with a different case, fans, and air cooler instead. I don't really plan on overclocking the cpu I think.

Whatever air cooler you decide to go with, I'd look up the official product page or a review just to make sure it comes with the right mounting brackets. I think most coolers do come with 2011v3 mounting brackets, although it's not a given.

quick question:

is it possible to overclock a i5-4670k with a VP450 power supply, or would that be too much?

That depends on what the rest of your system specs are and how high you plan to overclock. Bit-Tech's testing shows that a 4670K overclocked to 4.6GHz will draw around 160 watts by itself, but your results may vary.
 

Condom

Member
When you add another card for SLI/Crossfire, you are also adding more heat into the equation. If your case doesn't have a decent amount of airflow then things are going to get hot real fast.

How many fans (intake/exhaust) do you have? What case are you using?

You also may want to look into under-volting the videocards to produce less heat / less fan noise. Try using either Precision X or MSI Afterburner to drop the voltage and see if it helps.
I have a Fractal R3, 2 intake and 2 exhaust fans. Checked and 1 intake was blocked by PSU cables and the other was not connected- how stupid.

Must have forgotten about them when switching mobos some time ago, thanks for the tip.

Might look into underclocking/lower voltage if the problems persist!
 

_woLf

Member
Would people recommend the EVGA GTX 970 FTW?

I have a 670 FTW right now and love it. I've heard about some coil whine? I have a sound dampened case so I'm not sure I'd hear it, but is it really that big of a problem?

I have a core i7 3770K so it's still a great CPU, and the GPU would be fine too other than it being 2GB :/
 

NeOak

Member
Would people recommend the EVGA GTX 970 FTW?

I have a 670 FTW right now and love it. I've heard about some coil whine? I have a sound dampened case so I'm not sure I'd hear it, but is it really that big of a problem?

I have a core i7 3770K so it's still a great CPU, and the GPU would be fine too other than it being 2GB :/

Yes.
 

AJLma

Member
Need some advice, torn on a current upgrade path or whether or not to upgrade at all.

I use my PC for work and gaming, although I'm not doing anything really intensive, the multi-tasking can get pretty serious at times. Photoshop, lightroom, excel, word, maybe a game, and potentially 20 browsers tabs housing their own apps all open at once.

Current build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YKPnJx

I started building this PC on a budget with the help of this thread. Turns out that I can't just own a mid-range PC, and I decided to start going high-end, that would explain the shitty Biostar motherboard and mid-range 3770 paired with a Titan-X. I also feel a bit crazy for putting a $1,000 video on a $70 motherboard.

So basically, I want to upgrade my entire system and sell most of the old parts, this time with an overclock-able CPU in mind, and I want to get a good OC out of it.

What are my best CPU options at this point? Would it be worth it to look at something like the Ivy Bridge 6 core CPU's when Devil's Canyon and Haswell-E exist?
 

RGM79

Member
Need some advice, torn on a current upgrade path or whether or not to upgrade at all.

I use my PC for work and gaming, although I'm not doing anything really intensive, the multi-tasking can get pretty serious at times. Photoshop, lightroom, excel, word, maybe a game, and potentially 20 browsers tabs housing their own apps all open at once.

Current build:

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YKPnJx

I started building this PC on a budget with the help of this thread. Turns out that I can't just own a mid-range PC, and I decided to start going high-end, that would explain the shitty Biostar motherboard and mid-range 3770 paired with a Titan-X. I also feel a bit crazy for putting a $1,000 video on a $70 motherboard.

So basically, I want to upgrade my entire system and sell most of the old parts, this time with an overclock-able CPU in mind, and I want to get a good OC out of it.

What are my best CPU options at this point? Would it be worth it to look at something like the Ivy Bridge 6 core CPU's when Devil's Canyon and Haswell-E exist?

Socket 1155 has no hexa core processors, so if you need more performance than the i7 3770, then I recommend you look at Haswell-E and X99 motherboards. I want to recommend something along the lines of the i7 5820K and 24~32GB of higher speed DDR4 RAM if 16GB isn't already enough for you. Perhaps a large capacity SSD as well. You would basically be replacing everything except the graphics card, monitor, and whatever else you wanted to keep.

Do you have an overall budget in mind? I'm assuming you're in the US, do you live near a Microcentre store? They have the best prices on in-store CPU+motherboard bundles (hard to beat $450).

Any considerations about the size of the case? Aesthetics like color or case windows? Features like noise-reduction? If you are getting a case with a window, do you care about color-coordinating the case interior?
 

BlackJace

Member
Sup, what would one suggest for upgrading from a 6850? I don't want to go nuclear either, I think I want to stick with a budget of < $300.
 

RGM79

Member
Sup, what would one suggest for upgrading from a 6850? I don't want to go nuclear either, I think I want to stick with a budget of < $300.

Assuming you're in the US, the best bang for your buck under $300 is the R9 290. The Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC is $240 after rebates and discounts and should be strong for 1080p gaming at higher settings for the next few years.

Any specific games you play or the kind of performance you're looking for?
 

BlackJace

Member
Assuming you're in the US, the best bang for your buck under $300 is the R9 290. The Sapphire R9 290 Tri-X OC is $240 after rebates and discounts and should be strong for 1080p gaming at higher settings for the next few years.

Any specific games you play or the kind of performance you're looking for?

I have a backlog of older games, so I'm not looking to be a benchmark killer. For future games though, I want to play Unreal Tournament 4, Arkham Knight, Fortnight, Battlefront, etc.

I don't want to max them out per se, I'd just like them to have a 50+ framerate above all else.

I'll check out that card.
 

RGM79

Member
I have a backlog of older games, so I'm not looking to be a benchmark killer. For future games though, I want to play Unreal Tournament 4, Arkham Knight, Fortnight, Battlefront, etc.

I don't want to max them out per se, I'd just like them to have a 50+ framerate above all else.

I'll check out that card.

Can't say for sure without benchmarks, but hopefully it'll handle 50FPS and higher for the future.

One thing I forgot to ask is what case you have. That Sapphire has a triple fan cooler which is actually quite long. Have to make sure it fits in your case, of course.
 

BlackJace

Member
Can't say for sure without benchmarks, but hopefully it'll handle 50FPS and higher for the future.

One thing I forgot to ask is what case you have. That Sapphire has a triple fan cooler which is actually quite long. Have to make sure it fits in your case, of course.

I believe its an Antec 300 Steel Series. Mid Tower ATX.
 

AJLma

Member
Socket 1155 has no hexa core processors, so if you need more performance than the i7 3770, then I recommend you look at Haswell-E and X99 motherboards. I want to recommend something along the lines of the i7 5820K and 24~32GB of higher speed DDR4 RAM if 16GB isn't already enough for you. Perhaps a large capacity SSD as well. You would basically be replacing everything except the graphics card, monitor, and whatever else you wanted to keep.

Do you have an overall budget in mind? I'm assuming you're in the US, do you live near a Microcentre store? They have the best prices on in-store CPU+motherboard bundles (hard to beat $450).

Any considerations about the size of the case? Aesthetics like color or case windows? Features like noise-reduction? If you are getting a case with a window, do you care about color-coordinating the case interior?

No Microcenter :-/.

How loud my setup is another reason I'm ready to upgrade. The NZXT was great to start, but it does nothing for sound dampening. The quietest, and smallest case that I could fit 1 large GPU and a full size CPU cooler into would be ideal. Looks wise, as long as it doesn't glow it's probably fine.

Budget isn't too much of an issue, but I'd like to make it happen for around $700. If I commit to Haswell-E I'll probably have to stretch that though, with no MC around.

I already have a 500GB SSD that I've been holding off on installing until I'm sure what I want to do, so that's covered. 16GB of ram has been file also, but I might do 24 if it makes sense.
 

RGM79

Member
Then you are one of the lucky ones. Just reading GTA V steam forum, the ATI card horror stories are abundant.

The only one I'm aware of is MSAA causing pixelation in the lower right corner. Everyone seems to be mostly complaining about laptop AMD graphics or not being aware of GTAV specific drivers.
 
Question for advanced overclockers:

If I were to use Noctua's NH-D15 or any other large high-quality tower cooler, it appears that for the i7-4790K the best 24/7overclock I could hope to achieve is 4.7 GHz. More advanced motherboard UEFI allow for per-core overclocking. Since most games are still single core-dependent (I think), how feasible would it be to overclock Core 0 to 4.9-5.0 GHz while Cores 1-3 are clocked much lower, like 4.0-4.5 GHz? Does that introduce more instability? A fool's errand? Thanks.
 

Rur0ni

Member
Hey guys. I got all my parts this week and finally put my new PC together. It's amazing!! Thanks again for helping me choose the right parts. It's absolutely destroying GTA V right now at 1440p maxed. I haven't tried FRAPS yet but I must be getting near 90-100 FPS at all times. It's glorious.

i7 5960x
Rampage V Extreme X99
32g DDR4 2800Mhz G.Skill Ripjaw
H110 Corsair Cooler
2x Titan X
Samsung Evo 750 SSD 1 TB

Edit: I'll post a pic when I get a chance. I still need to do some final cable management.
Good build. That will crush anything out there for a while, especially if you are overclocking.
 

kennah

Member
Question for advanced overclockers:

If I were to use Noctua's NH-D15 or any other large high-quality tower cooler, it appears that for the i7-4790K the best 24/7overclock I could hope to achieve is 4.7 GHz. More advanced motherboard UEFI allow for per-core overclocking. Since most games are still single core-dependent (I think), how feasible would it be to overclock Core 0 to 4.9-5.0 GHz while Cores 1-3 are clocked much lower, like 4.0-4.5 GHz? Does that introduce more instability? A fool's errand? Thanks.

You'd need to delid to get anything better than 4.7. And I don't think you can choose which clock you get on which core?
 

Skel1ingt0n

I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
I could Google, I suppose - but what does the mobile GPU space look like in the next 12 months?

I know the 980M is a beast of a mobile card - especially since it has 4+GB of VRAM. And the 970M is decent. But it seems the 960M and 950M are the same exact cards we've been getting from Nvidia for, like, three years.

The 960M is an overclocked 860M which is an overclocked 760M. And the 760M wasn't terribly impressive in the first place. I know it's a mid-range mobile GPU, so I shouldn't expect anything great; but it'd be nice if they gave it a bit more juice.
 

NeOak

Member
I could Google, I suppose - but what does the mobile GPU space look like in the next 12 months?

I know the 980M is a beast of a mobile card - especially since it has 4+GB of VRAM. And the 970M is decent. But it seems the 960M and 950M are the same exact cards we've been getting from Nvidia for, like, three years.

The 960M is an overclocked 860M which is an overclocked 760M. And the 760M wasn't terribly impressive in the first place. I know it's a mid-range mobile GPU, so I shouldn't expect anything great; but it'd be nice if they gave it a bit more juice.

Like you said, 980M and 970M are awesome. Rest is recycled crap, including the 290M
 

RGM79

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No Microcenter :-/.

How loud my setup is another reason I'm ready to upgrade. The NZXT was great to start, but it does nothing for sound dampening. The quietest, and smallest case that I could fit 1 large GPU and a full size CPU cooler into would be ideal. Looks wise, as long as it doesn't glow it's probably fine.

Budget isn't too much of an issue, but I'd like to make it happen for around $700. If I commit to Haswell-E I'll probably have to stretch that though, with no MC around.

I already have a 500GB SSD that I've been holding off on installing until I'm sure what I want to do, so that's covered. 16GB of ram has been file also, but I might do 24 if it makes sense.

Yeah, $700 isn't really doable. Maybe you can sell some of your other parts to help make up the cost.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($349.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X99M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 White microATX Mini Tower Case ($84.99)
Total: $902.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-16 23:33 EDT-0400

There's not a lot of choice when it comes to compact cases. The only other choices would be the Fractal Define Mini or the Silverstone TJ08-E. And with cases that small, they don't really support 140mm fan tower CPU coolers, so I substituted the Corsair H80i in.
 

AJLma

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Yeah, $700 isn't really doable. Maybe you can sell some of your other parts to help make up the cost.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($349.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H80i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock X99M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Other: Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 White microATX Mini Tower Case ($84.99)
Total: $902.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-16 23:33 EDT-0400

There's not a lot of choice when it comes to compact cases. The only other choices would be the Fractal Define Mini or the Silverstone TJ08-E. And with cases that small, they don't really support 140mm fan tower CPU coolers, so I substituted the Corsair H80i in.

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. I think this is it!

All the old parts minus the HDD and GPU are getting sold. If I bundle them up right I'm sure I can make much of the difference back on eBay, I've got a 500W PSU sitting around so I might just finish the build and sell it as plug and play.

I've heard mixed things about the self-contained water-cooled units, but the H80i seems simple enough. The fan on that thing won't mess with the acoustics of that case will it?
 

RGM79

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. I think this is it!

All the old parts minus the HDD and GPU are getting sold. If I bundle them up right I'm sure I can make much of the difference back on eBay, I've got a 500W PSU sitting around so I might just finish the build and sell it as plug and play.

I've heard mixed things about the self-contained water-cooled units, but the H80i seems simple enough. The fan on that thing won't mess with the acoustics of that case will it?
After mulling over it for quite a while and checking out every option, I think I've gotten a "best fit" for your scenario. I rewrote my post a few times, but I'll include the old bits to answer your questions, just in spoiler tags.

The H80i comes with software to allow the fan speed to be controlled and the Nanoxia case should go a long way towards dampening the sound. If it's still too much, then consider swapping the fans for Noctua or Phanteks 120mm fans. In Bit-Tech's testing, they didn't find a lot to hate about the noise. You may want to consider your options with cases.

The Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 ($85) is the best for noise reduction, going by most reviews.
The Fractal Define Mini ($70) isn't quite as effective at noise reduction as the Nanoxia but has a cheaper price tag and more expansion in terms of fan mounts for cooling.
The Cooler Master Silencio 352 ($70) is also competitively priced and seems to be well designed in that it will take a 240mm (!) water cooling radiator in the front.

Honestly speaking, I think you'll be fine going with any of the three cases. Concerning graphics card length, I think with both the Nanoxia Deep Silence 4 (265mm) and Fractal Define Mini (260mm), you'll have to take out one of the drive cages to fit the Titan X (267mm length). The Silencio doesn't have that issue, though. I think the Silencio might be best if you're worried about CPU temperatures and/or overclocking, though. The Nanoxia and 120mm Corsair H80i more than what the Silencio and 240mm H100i costs.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($349.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X99M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($198.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan X 12GB Video Card (Purchased For $0.00)
Case: Cooler Master Silencio 352 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $894.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-04-17 02:06 EDT-0400

I think this is your best option. It's actually slightly cheaper and should prove a little bit quieter. While the Nanoxia is better at dampening noise than the Cooler Master, it's better to reduce the amount of noise being made in the first place rather than look for a more effective means of covering up noise. For that reason I now suggest the Cooler Master case and the larger cooler. The H100i should be a more effective cooler than the H80i and noise level reviews from Hardware Canucks, HardOCP and PCPer all agree that the H100i is slightly quieter. You still have the option of changing out the fans if noise is an issue.
 
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