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Accounts that have spent less than $5 on Steam now have limited access
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Leafhopper
Banned
It's a good move but I kinda feel for the people that only play like TF2 and Dota or something and never spent any money in those games.
That said I wasn't aware of how rampant this is. Then again I don't play a bunch of CS:GO and I havent played TF2 since 2010.
That said I wasn't aware of how rampant this is. Then again I don't play a bunch of CS:GO and I havent played TF2 since 2010.
ãInaba Residentã
Banned
Finally, it'll stop.
People would just idle their bots for whatever the requirement was.
Leafhopper
Banned
『Inaba Resident』;160567981 said:Finally, it'll stop.
Holy moly.
It's a massive pain in the ass.
spindoctor
Member
Will retail bought steam wallet codes work towards this limit or does it have to be a purchase from Valve directly?
Doctor Ironic
Member
I don't see anything unreasonable about this.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Great! $5 isn't too much and it prevents the majority of free accounts made specifically for scamming.
To be honest, that's a shitty thing to do.
So lets say someone bought a retail Steamwork multiplayer game and that's the only thing he uses Steam for; now he has limited access to basic things like chat, sending invites to people he just played with or posting in discussions just because he doesn't want to buy anything on Steam. And given how in Poland many retail PC games are a lot cheaper than they are on Steam (sometimes even Steam sales prices are higher than in retail here) it's not hard to imagine that there are plenty of gamers who have never bought anything on Steam.
For many people this will mean that they will have to pay just to get access to basic functionality. :|
So lets say someone bought a retail Steamwork multiplayer game and that's the only thing he uses Steam for; now he has limited access to basic things like chat, sending invites to people he just played with or posting in discussions just because he doesn't want to buy anything on Steam. And given how in Poland many retail PC games are a lot cheaper than they are on Steam (sometimes even Steam sales prices are higher than in retail here) it's not hard to imagine that there are plenty of gamers who have never bought anything on Steam.
For many people this will mean that they will have to pay just to get access to basic functionality. :|
King Radical
Member
This seems like a good idea except for the fact that unless I'm reading it wrong activating steam keys that come with retail purchases wont unlock it either which kind of sucks for people out there that just buy physical copies of games and don't want to spend money in the steam store directly (people without credit cards for example). Like if you are trying to prevent bots from making accounts for free it seems like allowing keys from retail purchases to unlock your account would accomplish the same goal.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
This is really shitty. Sucks for anyone who is playing F2P games or playing games without spending money.
I think its a good idea in theory but there needs to be a way to be able to not have restrictions without completely tying it to money spent.
I think its a good idea in theory but there needs to be a way to be able to not have restrictions without completely tying it to money spent.
More like Valve sees a new source of revenue here, lol. "Pay us if you want to spam".
Agreed. It's unfortunate about people who only play F2P games but many paying customers have been getting screwed over by phishers for way too long. I can't see any other effective way to deal with it.
Chinese Cartoons
Banned
Yeah really shitty i mean $5 dollars is a lot /s the real shitty thing is eastern Europeans/russians adding me because they want to scam me out of my items.
and didn't buy any hats? i don't believe it!
spindoctor
Member
The prevalence of indie bundles would make the intended deterrence trivial. You can buy bundles with 6 games for a dollar which means the cost associated with removing the limitation would be 15 cents instead of 5 dollars if they allowed retail keys to work.
I think this is fair. It doesn't say anything about restricting the friends list other than sending requests, so I'm guessing you can still receive requests to build your list.
Might be slightly annoying for the guy who has steam just to play Dota 2, but if it's a big problem just throw down for a Dota hat or something.
Might be slightly annoying for the guy who has steam just to play Dota 2, but if it's a big problem just throw down for a Dota hat or something.
ashecitism
Member
Which is weird, since they already took them into account when they changed the criteria for active users. But something had to be done I guess...
I was thinking the same. Valve won't care at all that non-paying users lose the mentioned features, since they don't bring any benefit to the company.
What's weird is that I only got like 4 or 5 spambot invites so far. Seems bots don't care about me either
TheMadMan007
Member
Good grief, about damn time! I'm sick of getting friend requests from spambots!
no it wouldn't , because of indie bundles. You can sometimes get 8 steam keys for a measly dollar.
Belgian Dude
Member
Yeah, that's another problem. Still, there should be some way as to not hurt old F2P-only players that much. Can't think of one at the moment, though. They probably won't hurt their heads over that (after all, they're non-paying users), but it's still a bummer.
I wanna live where you live, it's more like the price of a decent milkshake.
Cozmogramma
Member
That's shitty. I gifted CS:GO to my brother last year and he's been playing it for 300 hours, and 700 on TF2 before that. Now they remove basic features from him to use and he need to pay $5 to be able to use those features again. That's really fucking shitty. But I guess that's just Valve being Valve.
Yeah it was driving me nuts i have like 2 or 5 requests per day it's insane.
Is it confirmed indie bundles would work? I mean... retail games are basically steam keys too, no?
Same. I made one when Portal 2 dropped on PS3, but never used it. Was gonna buy Hunie Pop, since it looks like my refurb can handle it, but I guess I might have problems doing that now?That'll be my account then, since registering in like 2006 I've spent £0
Problems buying a game from Steam store? You would have none.
PodcastFips
Member
So why do activated retail games not count? I mean you pay at least as much as for a digital copy, no?
I'm not a PC gamer, but that sounds like they want to make more from it than just verifying real users...
I'm not a PC gamer, but that sounds like they want to make more from it than just verifying real users...
No, it's not a lot. But it's still paying for basic functionality, especially since activating retail games - you know, games that you paid for and due to used DRM are forced to use Steam - doesn't cancel the limit. So I can have tons of retail games activated on Steam and Valve would still regard me as a spambot.
I wonder how would people react if Microsoft or Sony put things like friends invite behind a paywall.
Neither did I. Dont think I have ever received a friend request from somebody I didnt know.
SteveWinwood
Member
i honestly expected them to do nothing
i would just get home, open steam, block the two level zero bots that added me and then start up dota
it was like clockwork those bots
i would just get home, open steam, block the two level zero bots that added me and then start up dota
it was like clockwork those bots
So he got a thousand hours of entertaiment out of steam and this is not worth $5 for him?
Air Zombie Meat
Member
The thousand odd hours of gameplay he's enjoyed for nothing should soften the blow of having to cough up $5.
Terbinator
Member
A *decent meal*? I pay that (£3.05) everyday for a coffee on the way into work.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
Sucks for anyone who is legit user and hasn't spent a dime. It's a service worth a single payment five dollars and finding an interesting steam sale ain't hard though.
Starwolf_UK
Member
Wait so it says they can't Send friend invites. What about receive them? I can imagine some people might like to use family sharing to give library access (but not account access) to family members. I'm just wondering if they need to cough up $5 for this now.
Yes which is why the proposal King Radical gives wouldn't work as Steam Keys are equal.